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K.ontroverz.Y 04-12-06 09:42 AM

why can't rockers get shot in the back of their fuckin head
 
how come i only hear about recent rappers getting their fuckin head blown off. that shits ridiculous. Niggaz in the hood are apprently getting jelous of these rappers and shooting them up. while the manager and record labels (white person who probably doesnt give a shit about hiphop) laughs at them and takes all their money. someone please go shoot maralyn manson in his face. please. No i am not racist but think about it.

hiphop is the biggest thing in music right now. So where theirs money. the white person is usually ontop of it all. in a way i consider industrial niggaz slaves. and thats word. check exodus by black ice...its the introduction for the fabolous album "real talk" thats my opinion on it all..you don't see rockers shot at all. their having a damn good time. and many times i hear menz sayin we gotta get out the ghetto and shit...blastin someone thats trying to help the cause of ya'll being in the ghetto and trying to help you out of there and open up passages..is not the way to do it

L. Veracity 04-12-06 09:45 AM

because they're smart enough to not hang out in the 'hood once they get some got dayum money, lmao...they don't have abandoment issues about leaving the hick town they used to live in once they leave and move out to Hollywood, they're happy where they are and accomplishing what they've accomplished...white people don't make each other feel guilty once they've gained something, only black people call people that get outtah the 'hood "sell out"s and "traitors"...that's the difference...any questions?...

P.S. the only rockers that get shot in the head are the ones that shoot THEMSELVES in the head...example: Kurt Cobain

say I'm racist against my own people, whatever...truth is truth

K.ontroverz.Y 04-12-06 09:49 AM

sort of. i only hear of that shit in the movies though. or rappers that don't come back to the hood..id come backt o the hood i woldnt forget where i came from but i wouldnt shoot dice and hustle and rob. i wouldn't have to no more..

but considering im not famous yet....thats what i do now

Nynth Degree 04-12-06 09:50 AM

Just back in '04, some random ass guy walked on stage at a Pantera concert and shot guitarist Dimebag Darryl like 4 times from point blank. He then shot 3 other people in the crowd, wounding them, and I think he tried to escape after that.

L. Veracity 04-12-06 09:51 AM

oh and another thing, rockers don't generally perpetuate, glorify and glamourize violence in their songs, rap artists do...everybody talkin' about being gangsta this, gangsta that, basically fighint on records about who had it worse than whom...you see rock artists fighting over who grew up poorer and in a worse situation than the next?...HELL NO!!

Artik Phrost 04-12-06 10:04 AM

LV....

...but representing a scene of drug use.. suicide.. massive killing.. makes it 'OK' for them(rock artist) ? and i think they do have abandonment issues... cuz they still bring the trash to hollywood..

Tha Q. 04-12-06 10:04 AM

STAY


OUT


OF


THE


FUCKIN



HOOD




if you're a rich rapper.



PERIOD.

L. Veracity 04-12-06 10:13 AM

ARTIK...
yes, rock artists glamourize drug use and things but honestly, that was more-so in the past, not current times...you don't generally hear rock stations playing those kinds of songs on the radio...right now, rap is obsessed with violence, I hope rappers wake up from this "phase" and stop causing their own demise because of the things they say in their raps...maybe one day they'll realize (like the rockers) that they're withering away and dying off because of what they "embody" to other people...most rock groups out now are sober as far as hard drugs, they liQuor up but that's it...most rockers are actually decent role models to kids these days, example: Travis Barker, the drummer from Blink182...what rapper can you honestly say is a decent role model to kids, besides maybe LL Cool J?...and you can't even really say him cuz he hasn't come out recently off the top as a new artist...rappers like Young Jeezy wanna talk about how they (ex. the Snowman) represent the "hood struggle" and shit, but all they're doing is representing the drug game...and kids out there eat this shit up like candy, I can't agree with that...kids idolize and want to embody what they see, either parents need to take a bigger role and teach their kids it's just a persona that the record label is marketing, or artists need to take responsibility for the fans they have, and speak about things that are positive

Artik Phrost 04-12-06 10:45 AM

LV...

you really havent heard much with underground rock, have you?.. Just over the weekend, A few local bands were playing.. and yea, the content was harsh....

another example:
theres a track on NERD's album 'attack of the clones'.. called fuck and spend

^and thats good for kids?

i dont know bout what they play in texas.. but here on the radio... the content revolves heavily around jewlry and women... and yea, you do have those that do, rap about the struggles of the hood, violence..drugs..gangs.... but can you blame them? They have reason to say what they say...THEY BEEN THERE... its all about credibilty... as well as image..
and you cant just blame the artists.. cuz kids look up to the local drug dealers too.. i've lived there... i know a thing or two
whereas, these harsh ass rock artists.. are promoting a fucking problem...

and as for that role model... stuff.. man, thats just giving parents reason not to do their damn job...

and Rock Artists are REALLY good role models?

hmmm, lets look at exhibit A: ACTUAL QUOTE..

"My favorite band are nirvana partly because of there drug abuse content but they also wrote kick ass songs which make me feel instingtive and persuaded to do more things with my life like learning a instrument or joining a band. "


and there are Rap artists that ARE positive

Ebircs 04-12-06 10:54 AM

IS because...........when do you here rockers put out diss records ?? or have serious beef ??AND on MTV crips..u see these kids living in the HILLS in hollywood chillin in the woods n shit yo...they dont leave rodeo drive....

∆ P E X X 04-12-06 10:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 9th
Just back in '04, some random ass guy walked on stage at a Pantera concert and shot lead singer Dimebag Darryl like 4 times from point blank. He then shot 3 other people in the crowd, wounding them, and I think he tried to escape after that.



^^yeah he got handled in an awful way after that, the video's online.

but I agree with Kon AND LV cuz you're both right. Rap -->> IN THE MEDIA as a whole is very negative music, always talking about violence, objectifying or belittling women, promoting being a drug dealer - you can't be surprised when all the negative things you talk about start coming to you.

Rock (in all its forms) discusses a whole seperate aspect of life. Their fans have a diffrent mentality and so does their music.

LV, you're ABSOLUTELY right, blacks do paint situations to make you feel guilty about success. Everyone agrees that moving out of the hood is a good thing, yet RARELY you find someone in the hood who wants you to leave.

The hood is Hell. And mysery loves company.

L. Veracity 04-12-06 10:56 AM

be FUCKing serious...there's always gonna be some dumb ass kids that say music influenced them to do this and tht...music is one of the most influential things to the human psyche, that's why doctors say it's good for babies to listen to classical music, it expands their mind...don't you think that other music would do the opposite as well?...

in the rap industry there is NO such thing as credibility...1st off, most artists don't even write their own lyrics, 2nd off, a rap artist is not who they are, it's a PERSONA being sold to the public, people don't actually DO most of the things in their raps...which loses their "credibility" right off the top

Nirvana WAS a great band, but not because of the reasons that idiot you quoted said, if you knew anything about the direction of rock music when they came out, you'd understand why they are considered among the rock greats

people idiolize drug dealers because they see them with all the flashy shit and nyce things, wearin' iced out chains and ridin' through the 'hood in a nyce car andshit, the only reason they don't their shit taken is because they know what will happen to 'em if they do...rappers do the SAME thing in their videos, except 80% of the shit in their video is rented, but the average teenager doesn't know that...when's the last time you seen a rock artist in their video showing off their cars an shit?...Travis Barker got a sikk ass house with madd cars, the only time you ever see him showing that shit off is on CRIBS, where the show is actually ABOUT that...rappers glorify and personify things that are all "illusion" and based on the "persona" they're trying to sell, they don't car about fans, it's all about the almighty dollar...if someone you know is idiolizing a drug dealer, I feel sorry for them and whoever else is around 'em when they're growing up cuz that shit's an illusion too

K.ontroverz.Y 04-12-06 01:49 PM

never have i ever heard a kid say music influenced them. Because i see Fabolous with diamonds on his neck. doesn't mean im going to buy a 50,000 chain. you know. It's more of a common sense thing. You can't blaim the stupid mistakes humans do on Rap. Rapping is only verbal and we do have the freedom of speach. but how can a stranger you've only heard about in songs make you kill someone or do drugs?

right, it cant

and the reason why I myself and rappers brag about jewelery and shit is because shit i never had that before and its more of a blessing naww meanz. how many people you see rockin 100,000 grand on their neck? right so it's more of a "yeah i'm making money, im successful" then..."fuck you, im rich, your not" you know what i mean so really you can't say rappers bring you down. and about the drugs and violence. yo that really happened.

picture it like this. Your living in the hood. all your homies get shot you have no dad and you have to rob to survive a day. wouldn't you think once your famous you would want the whole world to know what you've been through. and what the system have done to us. poverty and less fortunate characters. it's more of. HEY i made it through hell this is what i had to go through to get here. then..."yeah i;ll kill you because im from the hood"

K.ontroverz.Y 04-12-06 01:57 PM

50 is something you call a "bitch nigga" forgot about the hood and is all about money. only reason "50 cent" is talking about it is because it's getting him payed. He individually brags about it too much. Then again that's why half the industry hates him.

Crazy Hades 04-12-06 02:10 PM

Kont...it doesn't matter what you are meaning, people can switch the 'yeah, I'm successful' into 'that motherfucker is trying to show off to me' if you've struggled enough to have to steal to survive the day...and aye bro, I haven't struggled in the hood, but I've struggled elsewhere at a young age...and kids are susceptible to anything, man...even if your intentions are good, they can be twisted.

Why are less rockers shot? Because they probably don't have as many enemies...but whatever man...if I ever get famous, I'm helping out the ghetto, struggling people, and keeping what money I need only to live a life of mild luxury... as in I can wear nice jewelry and drive a decent car, but not have a personal jet and a house worthy of CRIBS...as long as I can keep my head straight.

Aye man, the world is sad when it's susceptible enough that it'll accept that some reasons behind what kids do is 'because a video game or a song influenced them'...and they get off easier for their stupid shit. It is THEIR FAULT, and if a kid fucking shoots another kid in the head on purpose, he shouldn't get off easier than some kid who doesn't have a copy of San Andreas in his home...

Mentor 04-12-06 04:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
how come i only hear about recent rappers getting their fuckin head blown off. that shits ridiculous. Niggaz in the hood are apprently getting jelous of these rappers and shooting them up. while the manager and record labels (white person who probably doesnt give a shit about hiphop) laughs at them and takes all their money. someone please go shoot maralyn manson in his face. please. No i am not racist but think about it.

hiphop is the biggest thing in music right now. So where theirs money. the white person is usually ontop of it all. in a way i consider industrial niggaz slaves. and thats word. check exodus by black ice...its the introduction for the fabolous album "real talk" thats my opinion on it all..you don't see rockers shot at all. their having a damn good time. and many times i hear menz sayin we gotta get out the ghetto and shit...blastin someone thats trying to help the cause of ya'll being in the ghetto and trying to help you out of there and open up passages..is not the way to do it


ok think about it...is all of the managers out there white???
is there black or any other managers of other race??
u think all the managers are perfect besides white ones??
yet u say u aint racist but the white man is real fucked up
lmao fo real u gotta have sumthin against "the white man"

but the rest i agree on u NEVER see rockers get fuckin killed or murdered only time they die is either suicide like kurt kobain or drug overdose, and rarily car crash...sumthin is up but yo i dont say that rockers should die too but instead i say nobody in music should die..EVER

Kirk 04-12-06 05:01 PM

Yeah, they should get shot in the back of the head. That's it.....

Ysdat 04-12-06 05:04 PM

kurt cobain. killed himself but still ,he got shot in the back of the head..and the front :(

Abraxas 04-12-06 05:10 PM

Nice talk for once.
Yah, Rap artists glorify themselves.
Rockers talk about weird stuff that I don't really like.

Kirk 04-12-06 06:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
how come i only hear about recent rappers getting their fuckin head blown off. that shits ridiculous. Niggaz in the hood are apprently getting jelous of these rappers and shooting them up. while the manager and record labels (white person who probably doesnt give a shit about hiphop) laughs at them and takes all their money. someone please go shoot maralyn manson in his face. please. No i am not racist but think about it.

hiphop is the biggest thing in music right now. So where theirs money. the white person is usually ontop of it all. in a way i consider industrial niggaz slaves. and thats word. check exodus by black ice...its the introduction for the fabolous album "real talk" thats my opinion on it all..you don't see rockers shot at all. their having a damn good time. and many times i hear menz sayin we gotta get out the ghetto and shit...blastin someone thats trying to help the cause of ya'll being in the ghetto and trying to help you out of there and open up passages..is not the way to do it

If you didn't really know whoever made this thread, the artists live different lifestyles. Rappers are more prone to "get shot in the back of the fucking head" as you so elegantly put it because they talk about doing it to other people and call themselves g's. Whereas rock artists.... don't. Basically... that is all.

locknes 04-12-06 06:19 PM

kurt cobaine was arocker he blew his head off

K.ontroverz.Y 04-12-06 07:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ILL-usion
ok think about it...is all of the managers out there white???
is there black or any other managers of other race??
u think all the managers are perfect besides white ones??
yet u say u aint racist but the white man is real fucked up
lmao fo real u gotta have sumthin against "the white man"

but the rest i agree on u NEVER see rockers get fuckin killed or murdered only time they die is either suicide like kurt kobain or drug overdose, and rarily car crash...sumthin is up but yo i dont say that rockers should die too but instead i say nobody in music should die..EVER


Yo your saying i shouldnt have anything against white people. i dont but who the fuck do you think imported the crack and guns into the ghetto? not us. why do you think the majority of black people are in poverty. think about it. and as far as racism. my fuckin girlfriends white. so stfu

∆ P E X X 04-12-06 07:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
never have i ever heard a kid say music influenced them. Because i see Fabolous with diamonds on his neck. doesn't mean im going to buy a 50,000 chain. you know. It's more of a common sense thing. You can't blaim the stupid mistakes humans do on Rap. Rapping is only verbal and we do have the freedom of speach. but how can a stranger you've only heard about in songs make you kill someone or do drugs?

right, it cant

and the reason why I myself and rappers brag about jewelery and shit is because shit i never had that before and its more of a blessing naww meanz. how many people you see rockin 100,000 grand on their neck? right so it's more of a "yeah i'm making money, im successful" then..."fuck you, im rich, your not" you know what i mean so really you can't say rappers bring you down. and about the drugs and violence. yo that really happened.

picture it like this. Your living in the hood. all your homies get shot you have no dad and you have to rob to survive a day. wouldn't you think once your famous you would want the whole world to know what you've been through. and what the system have done to us. poverty and less fortunate characters. it's more of. HEY i made it through hell this is what i had to go through to get here. then..."yeah i;ll kill you because im from the hood"


When everybody in your hood only hears people glorifying drug dealing as their means for money, eventually you start to believe it's the only way. Especially after nearly everyone around you believes it, the materialistic hoes want some flashy clown and your self worth is comprimised because you don't sell drugs for money, and all the dudes around you look up to male figures like that since theirs was most likely missing. that drug promoting, violence pumpin rapper becomes the father figure and subconciously, you begin to emulate him.

That's when things start to get surreal.

47.29" of Zigs 04-12-06 07:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paramik Nigga
Nice talk for once.
Yah, Rap artists glorify themselves.
Rockers talk about weird stuff that I don't really like.

whats that

oh yea life

rockstars talk about life they aint gotta talk about guns and they aint gotta go to the hood

they got better things to do like oh iunno coke

∆ P E X X 04-12-06 07:47 PM

just as an FYI Kurt Cobain is rumored to have been killed by courtney love, not by himself. There's a stack of evidence only an ask.com away. Evidence liek the angle he was shot on and distance he was shot at indicating that he couldn't have possibly done it himself.

Also, Pam Andersons ex said he's been getting shot at recently and fears that someeon is trying to take his life. Got shot at driving his car, then got shot at again whie on his tour bus, and this is less than a week ago.

Compose 04-12-06 08:00 PM

yea i heard the shotgun was too long for him to shoot himself or somethin like that

47.29" of Zigs 04-12-06 08:09 PM

yea he was killed

but u aint see ppl martyr kurt cobain like 2pac was or nothig

fucking white ppl thinking their black

Magic5 04-12-06 08:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
Yo your saying i shouldnt have anything against white people. i dont but who the fuck do you think imported the crack and guns into the ghetto? not us. why do you think the majority of black people are in poverty. think about it. and as far as racism. my fuckin girlfriends white. so stfu


Yeah, you shouldn't have anything against white people. You should having something against the white people who "imported crack and guns" into the ghetto. You can't blame a fucking race of people for that shit. There's still white people in the hood too. And so, YOU shut the fuck up. Your first post was racist, point blank.

47.29" of Zigs 04-12-06 08:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Yeah, you shouldn't have anything against white people. You should having something against the white people who "imported crack and guns" into the ghetto. You can't blame a fucking race of people for that shit. There's still white people in the hood too. And so, YOU shut the fuck up. Your first post was racist, point blank.

fuck white ppl

white ppl are the reason we still in poverty

Magic5 04-12-06 08:21 PM

There are white people in poverty too, dumbass.

Compose 04-12-06 08:34 PM

not all white people are bad dumbasses and in poor parts of brooklyn, youll see a shitload of black AND white people, you cant blame an entire race for bringing crack into the ghettos the same way you cant say all black people sell the crack

47.29" of Zigs 04-12-06 08:44 PM

i dont i just have my theories about white ppl that i aint dispersin on a website thats 96% white

47.29" of Zigs 04-12-06 08:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
There are white people in poverty too, dumbass.

white ppl choose to be poor

i wont argue but they do

black ppl have to work their way out of poverty

Mentor 04-12-06 09:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
Yo your saying i shouldnt have anything against white people. i dont but who the fuck do you think imported the crack and guns into the ghetto? not us. why do you think the majority of black people are in poverty. think about it. and as far as racism. my fuckin girlfriends white. so stfu


look i aint got nuthin against u i mean i see ur point i aint gon be ignorant bout my race just cuz i am white but it really dont matter who put the crack and shit inta the hood, if people wanna complain that we bringing it into the hood and ruinin ya'll lifes maybe people should stop dealing it after all it takes a person ta sell it, it aint gon sell itself so if anything stop selling it and u can stop complaining, but overall im just sayin not every white man is bad and is always out ta get the black man, just try ta keep that in mind, feel what im sayin?

Compose 04-12-06 09:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by .:Zig Zag:.
white ppl choose to be poor

i wont argue but they do

black ppl have to work their way out of poverty

you're almost at willsunya's level

you're so dumb, why would people choose to be poor, seriously im not trying to joke or act stupid but are you right in the head? how old are you?

47.29" of Zigs 04-12-06 10:01 PM

i said i aint arguing

(X)eed 04-13-06 01:56 AM

I agree....bro.. why tha fuck dont we see james blunt get clapped ..... alwaes rappers..
but i guess rockers die of fuckin....o.d.'s n shit..

(X)eed 04-13-06 02:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by L. Veracity
be FUCKing serious...there's always gonna be some dumb ass kids that say music influenced them to do this and tht...music is one of the most influential things to the human psyche, that's why doctors say it's good for babies to listen to classical music, it expands their mind...don't you think that other music would do the opposite as well?...

in the rap industry there is NO such thing as credibility...1st off, most artists don't even write their own lyrics, 2nd off, a rap artist is not who they are, it's a PERSONA being sold to the public, people don't actually DO most of the things in their raps...which loses their "credibility" right off the top

Nirvana WAS a great band, but not because of the reasons that idiot you quoted said, if you knew anything about the direction of rock music when they came out, you'd understand why they are considered among the rock greats

people idiolize drug dealers because they see them with all the flashy shit and nyce things, wearin' iced out chains and ridin' through the 'hood in a nyce car andshit, the only reason they don't their shit taken is because they know what will happen to 'em if they do...rappers do the SAME thing in their videos, except 80% of the shit in their video is rented, but the average teenager doesn't know that...when's the last time you seen a rock artist in their video showing off their cars an shit?...Travis Barker got a sikk ass house with madd cars, the only time you ever see him showing that shit off is on CRIBS, where the show is actually ABOUT that...rappers glorify and personify things that are all "illusion" and based on the "persona" they're trying to sell, they don't car about fans, it's all about the almighty dollar...if someone you know is idiolizing a drug dealer, I feel sorry for them and whoever else is around 'em when they're growing up cuz that shit's an illusion too



Yo.... you are probably the most intellgent ppl ive met on this fuckin site...
i agree wit u to a certain point.bro....... but after tht its diff .. u kno.
What has rock had 2 offer that is different 2 rap?..... nowadaes yes thre is no drug use n shit in rock.. but bro thre is sum sort of violence?... wt bout death metal n all tht garbage?.....

u wanna talk bout how shits not a good influince on lil kids?....
well...... the worlds not a prtty site now is it?.
think bout it... yes rappers do not go back?.... like wtf would u?.. if u made it?..... or would any of u wanna reject that offer n live in tha godd damn hood?.
fo sho u wana live in HollYWood....yes rappers doo pose n shit "these daes" wich i quote........ not back in 1990 sumthing...... 2pac wuz a reall dude.. Biggie kept his shit topical...n yes.... he kept it real>?...now if he wuz rich n he talkd bout hw poor he wuz.... he would b called a fuckin liar n wat not..

holla


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