A "Bar" is what exactly?
 

I keep hearing different responses.

I hear that it is when the beat plays through once.

Imagine the beat playing for "Eminem - Kill You"

He says

"When I was just a little baby boy, my momma use to tell me these crazy things"

Then the beat repeats as he says

"She used to tell me my daddy was an evil man, she used to tell me he hated me"

Would that be two bars right there? Since the beat went through twice?

*OR* Would this be one bar . . .

"When I was just a little baby boy, my momma use to tell me these crazy things
She used to tell me my daddy was an evil man, she used to tell me he hated me"

Because when I hear rappers say they are spitting a "Hot 16" as in 16 bars. I always notice they're verse has the beat play through 16 times. Which would mean the example I gave above would be two bars.

Can someone tell me which is correct, if either are.

That's how I've always counted my bars, and they always seemed ok to me.

simple definition is, two sentences basically

and anyone with a brain would know that that eminem line was a full bar, you jus gotta know, its natural

I really dont feel like elaborating

a bar is where im going now to get drunk

a bar usually is two lines....... that rhyme in most cases........

nigga stbfu u irish hoe bag

^^^^^ thats a measure....... so is a measure a bar?

A BAR IS ONE LINE!!

A "bar" (aka a Measure) is 4 beat hits. A rapper sets up his rhymescheme over those 4 beat hits, then finisnhes the rhyme scheme on the second 4 beat hits, called a "bar couplet".


TEXTERS will tell you a bar is two sentences. Anyone who knows what 16 bars are knows that a bar is one line.

Don't believe me? Look in the dictionary for the deifnition of Bar in a musical sense.

That's what I thought it was (Apexx)

a myth












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wat if were rappin in 3/4 time? explain to me this 4 beat theory

what's there to explain? A bar is 4 beat hits no matter what youre tempo. even if you're doing sticcatto.

lmfao........ that made no sense, lol

a measure in 3/4 would be......... 3 beats right?

but would a bar still be 4....... hmmmmm

That made no sense? ok, maybe this will make sense:

bar1 Audio pronunciation of "bar" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bär)
n.


14 Music.

1. A vertical line drawn through a staff to mark off a measure.
2. A measure.



so what, you have a beat on 3 beat hits instead of 4??? you'd be on a beat that's less than half a staff??? how the hell would you even write that out lmao.

..cmon now man you're talkin crazy talk lol. That wouldn't even be "correct" musically. a bar is 4 beat hits, no matter what your tempo.

3/4ths is a tempo? since when?

lmfao........ are u kiddin? almost ANY TWO NUMBERS CAN BE A MEASURE....... 7/8 time
3/4 ......

and spell "staccato" correctly before u step to me about music

Beats are in 4/4 time...So, one bar is 4 "ticks" of the beat...

So, 16 bars is the amount of words/syllables you can fit in 64 ticks of the beat

Normally, it's 16 lines, with the last word hitting the 4th beat...But, as with any good emcee, I don't stick to that format and my syllables spill over to the next bar...



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A bar is two lines......Jeezy Creezy

you're talkin like 3/4ths time is a BEAT!!! You also said 3/4ths was a tempo.


ITS NEITHER!!!


OHH SHIT TYPOS!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH SOMEBODY CALL THE NERD POLICE TO SPELL CHECK THE INTERNET! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

bitch please.

I hate when people try to diss you by pulling out a word you spelled incorectly.

yeah, on this site everybody (particularly textees) always act like a bar is 2 lines, but if u listen to people spittin "16 bars", its just 16 lines...

wen did i say 3/4 was a tempo?????? i sed "3/4" time...... and 3/4 could be a tempo the.... just the most ridiculously slowest fuckin tempo ever..... and show me how "i" and "a" are anywhere close on a keyboard...... u just tried to act like u were a genius lat everything as usual and made no sense...... lmfao staccato???? why would that even matter...... now of u had sed fermata their may have been some relevance but staccato is already obviously not gonna change the tempo at all..... i was only askin if a BAR is a MEASURE and u have a beat that is written in 3/4 TIME..... than wouldnt it be 3 beat hits???? it was a hypothetical......

apexx is right...

time signatures are always 4/4...you could make a beat using an odd time signature but it wouldnt sound right...cos your snares need to be in the right position...snares are almost always on the same beat in every song...

listen to a song...most verses are 16 bars......and a hook is normally 8 bars....not saying it has to be...but thats standard...

google it and look for something about counting bars...its pretty easy to learn how to count them...

i wonder wat a hypothetical is doin........ i wasnt sayin anythin more than wouldnt a bar be 3 beats if ur in 3/4 time...... and Jack, it wasnt the fact as much that he spelled it wrong, but that he tried to use a word that had no relevance to wat we were talkin about...... and on top of that, he didnt even spell it right.... like wat would staccato do to the tempo or time signature???? absolutely nothing...... so why even bring it up.... im the nerd, yet u try to act like u have a Masters in every subject in every thread of RV

True...staccato would do nothing to time signature

Oh...and how do I know anything about music?...Well, I was in the band from 6th grade, all the way through my freshman year of college. I played the clarinet, E-flat clarinet, bass clarinet, tuba, and baritone. I was the drum major in my high school's marching band. So, I know a thing or two about music.

As for beats, I have never heard one in 3/4 time. Maybe one song with Saigon called "favorite things"...If that beat he uses in that song isn't 3/4 time, then he flows it like it is.




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^^^^^^^^^^ thats a hot song to

It's all 4/4.

lemme see if I got this right...your biggest point of argument is how I spelled staccato and a hypothetical beat that dosen't even exist nor would be "correct"....





yeah.





so what's your point again?

And what's it have o do with this:


BTW, by stacato I mean LYRICALLY not musically, since we're talkin about LYRICS!!! Like Twista, drag, bonethug, etc. That's considered stacato spit. aka machinegun. aka doubletime. So how the hell you get anything of a beat out of that? you're talking about a beat that's missing a hit, and by defintion wouldn't be a beat. orr.....an OFFbeat beat and asking how people would rap on an off-beat beat??


right.

one bar is 4 crotchet notes or "beats" (in terms of your average hip hop) song

but that depends on the time signature of the tune

^^^^^ see this man knows wat im sayin

and wen did Q join in on this?????

i didnt say u didnt know anythin about music...... and ive been in the band since 5th grade... lmao.....

lmao @ how you fall back and change subjects again lmao.

oh well. life goes on.

I didn't know I couldn't "join in on this"...I answered your question...But, you and a couple others were so busy arguing over bull shit, you missed two correct explanations--i.e., Apexx's and mine.





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ok.... ima make a 3/4 beat, and rap over it..... and how would it be OFFbeat Apexx?? that makes no sense either.... did u walk past a music theory class one day and think u know everythin?

A bar is 2-3 snares counts on the beat.

*yawn* nope, I actually studied music, majored in music, make music, produced music and answered this question probably no less than 50 times in the last few years. I can link you to a post on another board that already answers this if you for what ever reason think I'm making this all up or guessing.

a beat at 3/4ths = not a "beat", since "beats" are 4/4ths..like every single song you've ever heard is. Music programs don't even hold a 3/4ths looping format, so......GL with that lmao. But call my bluff, make a beat in 3/4ths and rhyme over it and see how "off beat" the entire track sounds since it's not a "beat". Upload it on SC, get people to rate it, see how great it sounds. Get some RV producers to give you some feedback on it lmao. You'll be a pro at wiring over a beat nobody likes, would use, or will ever hear again. congrats.


but you're right...what do I know. :rolleyes:

so once again, tell me exactly what your point of argument is, are you still crying over how I spelled Stacato or are you crying because we discussed and answered what a "bar" is already and you're just blabbering on about something completely irrelevant?

he asked wat a bar was, and u sed it was a measure...... he didnt fuckin say it had to do with "beats" (meanin instrumentals) necesarily...... and 3/4 is a certain time signature for BARS or MEASURES, so it would be 3 BEATS.......... and yea, btw, they do allow 3/4 looping cuz ive done one before... even fuckin FL can do it...... lmao........

and ur still spellin staccato wrong, just to let u know.......

and every song ive heard has not been 4/4 lmfao........actually, all the music I PLAY isnt even 4/4.......

so if ur keepin score, ive already called ur bluff on findin a beat program that allows 3/4...........

Anybody hear a beat in 3/4ths with lyrics over it that's uploaded and getting feedback from producers?




cuz i don't.


*yawn*

haaaaa

Did anyone's band teacher teach them quarter, eighth, and 16th notes by using cars?

CHEVY...CHEVY...FORD...FORD...MITSUBISHI..FORD...F ORD


lol...Takes me back to my elementary school days


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