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Indeph 04-24-06 03:55 PM

No beef, seriously I'm really wondering this
 
Is it possible to not like gay people and not be gay yourself? Sounds like an oxymoronic question, but it really is urking me.

locknes 04-24-06 03:57 PM

its possible im not gay and i dont like homos. theres ya answer

Indeph 04-24-06 04:00 PM

Well it seems like if you argue with them(not just online), say anything that promotes your heterosexuality/love for girls then you're homophobic. Somehow not liking them is some secret mental issue of you being gay. Like no matter what you do, somehow you're gonna need some gay in your life, or else you're homophobic.

In-Vision 04-24-06 04:03 PM

yeah, i know what you're saying..even straight people say that shit....but i personally think


when gay people attack someone for promotiong heterosexuality...or disaproving of homosexuality...and they use the "you must be gay yourself" tactic...it's a subconcious way of making themselves feel better by pretending there not the only ones...so really what there saying is....
i'm a faggot...i wish i wasn't..but since I am..i'll pretend you are too

Tha Q. 04-24-06 04:19 PM

There are so many angles to this, it's near impossible to come to a consensus on an answer. But, I'll come from a purely psychological standpoint.

Hate stems from fear. And, fear stems from ignorance. Therefore, many people "hate" things--such as different cultures--because they don't understand them. A lot of times people have their own inner issues and use opportunities such as bigotry and hate to vent those issues. Many psychologists would agree that some guys repress their homosexuality. And, because of struggles with morals/expectations of society, lash out against it. In effect, these guys are self-loathing. I've seen countless, countless examples of "gay bashers" who later turned out to be gay themselves. Furthermore, if someone is a happy heterosexual, they should have no reason to actively hate, bash, or fear any other culture.
Also, this common statement of, "I have no problem with gay guys as long as they don't hit on me" is absurd. It's self-flattering. Do all str8 guys find ALL women attractive? No. So, assuming someone will hit on you just because they're gay is ridiculous.

In short, a person can be "anti gay" and not be gay. It just makes no sense either way.


Nuff said

∆ P E X X 04-24-06 04:21 PM

"like" how, as in "I'm cool with anybody" or "like" as in "emotionally".
if you mean the first one, then yeah, how would it not be possible? lol

It's possible to be cool with someone who's a woman and not be a woman, lol. Or for that matter, possible to be cool with any type of person and not BE like them. That's part of life.

My question is why be mad at them? like..why would you care what someone else decides to do with their life if you're not living theirs, you're living yours? I never got that.

Tha Q. 04-24-06 04:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thoth
yeah, i know what you're saying..even straight people say that shit....but i personally think


when gay people attack someone for promotiong heterosexuality...or disaproving of homosexuality...and they use the "you must be gay yourself" tactic...it's a subconcious way of making themselves feel better by pretending there not the only ones...so really what there saying is....
i'm a faggot...i wish i wasn't..but since I am..i'll pretend you are too


1st of all, anyone who'd be willing to admit they're gay is probably not uncomfortable with it. Therefore, your assertion that they "need to feel better" about themselves assume they have a problem with who they are. And, if they do have a problem with who they are, I wonder why. The fact is, there are MANY, MANY gay people. Believe it or not, I'm not the only one on this site. I know at least 5-6 people on this site who have come out to me over the last 2 years. What does that mean? It means thinking gay people don't exist is stupid. It also means asserting that gay people "want to make everyone else gay" is asinine. If anything, it's the other way around based on what society at large says. Gay people and homosexuality are still stigmatized.

Don't get it twisted.

Tha Q. 04-24-06 04:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
"like" how, as in "I'm cool with anybody" or "like" as in "emotionally".
if you mean the first one, then yeah, how would it not be possible? lol

It's possible to be cool with someone who's a woman and not be a woman, lol. Or for that matter, possible to be cool with any type of person and not BE like them. That's part of life.

My question is why be mad at them? like..why would you care what someone else decides to do with their life if you're not living theirs, you're living yours? I never got that.



Exactly...If I'm comfortable with my life, and I'm doing my own thing, I wouldn't have time to worry about or hate someone else. People who are secure in who they are aren't homophobic.


One more thing...

Why would anyone feel the need to beat or kill a gay person? It's happened before. Hate crimes are a damn shame. Then, those people want to cite what the bible says. Where in the bible does it tell you to hate gay people and violate them? And, if that's the case, the bible also says in the book of Leviticus that people who commit adultery should be put to death. I don't see these bible-avengers going out stoning whores and male sluts.

Mentor 04-24-06 04:48 PM

yea Q pretty much summed it up....and i see ur point ur saying if u go all out hating gay people ur trying ta make up for sumthin or try ta cover sumthin or cuz u in major denial that u actaully gay and dont wanna admit it so u try so hard ta make people convinced that u hate gays...thats why i aint really homophobic because i mean if thats their thing then thats their thing, dont bother me as long as they dont tell me bout their sex life lmao...but ay whatever floats ur boat...the only thang i hate bout gay guys is when they act like girls its just like what the fuck ur already goin against the purpose of ur gender u dont have ta go all out and act like a girl..but even though i dont believe its natural and that it goes against natures plans i dont have anythang against gays...but i've always wondered why gay guys act like girls, u never see lesbians act like guys normally the lesbians and female bisexuals out there u'll never know they were unless they told u cuz they girls and act like girls..there's tomboys but most of the time tomboys aint lesbian

La Cosa Nostra 04-24-06 10:40 PM

I dont like SOME gay people...

A certain type of them... The ones that talk like fucking idiots and live up to all the cliche negative gay steriotypes..

I'm not afraid of them. I'm not angry at them. I just simply dont like them.

And I'm one of the most hetersexual people you'll meet....

WhoAmI 04-25-06 04:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q
Hate stems from fear. And, fear stems from ignorance


not necessarily...someone could hate gay people once they have learned about homosexuality on the pure fact that they see that shit as wrong and unnatural...(unnatural from a biological perspective, ie the inability to reproduce n shit)....but i guess you're gonna come in and argue some point about homosexual thoughts and feelings naturally occuring in gay peoples heads or something

and btw there should be another word that applies to people have no fear of homosexuals, but still don't like their way of life

because gay people always throw around the word homophobic like every single person who doesn't like gays is scared of them, and that in some cases is complete and utter bullshit

~peace~

Mad Dog 04-25-06 05:01 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indeph
Is it possible to not like gay people and not be gay yourself? Sounds like an oxymoronic question, but it really is urking me.


ye some argue that which could confuse you...but it only ocnfuses people who aren't too sure themselves of their own sexuality so unless you're comfortable and you know what side you on then you can freely hate gay people...but thats for ignorant heads...coz personally that's like me being hating muslims coz i'm christian...

gay/straight...it's all beliefs...so if you can be homophobic...you could in turn easily be racist...not too different...

Critic 04-25-06 08:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
ye some argue that which could confuse you...but it only ocnfuses people who aren't too sure themselves of their own sexuality so unless you're comfortable and you know what side you on then you can freely hate gay people...but thats for ignorant heads...coz personally that's like me being hating muslims coz i'm christian...

gay/straight...it's all beliefs...so if you can be homophobic...you could in turn easily be racist...not too different...


Totally agree with you mate !!

I have nothing at all agaisnt gay people, some of them are cool while
some of them can be wankers its part and parcel of life and people.

There is no need to hate and like mad said it's almost like being
racist where by people simply hate u for being, gay, black or white.

1~

villagepimp 04-25-06 11:24 AM

I'm completely lost?

Tha Q. 04-25-06 11:29 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ...D.P...
not necessarily...someone could hate gay people once they have learned about homosexuality on the pure fact that they see that shit as wrong and unnatural...(unnatural from a biological perspective, ie the inability to reproduce n shit)....but i guess you're gonna come in and argue some point about homosexual thoughts and feelings naturally occuring in gay peoples heads or something

and btw there should be another word that applies to people have no fear of homosexuals, but still don't like their way of life

because gay people always throw around the word homophobic like every single person who doesn't like gays is scared of them, and that in some cases is complete and utter bullshit

~peace~



You're wrong. The issue isn't about not believing in homosexuality, it's about HATING homosexuals and actively bashing them. People who do that are confused an insecure about themselves. Where is this universal law that says "str8 people must bash and hate gay people?" It doesn't exist. Again, why would someone fear a homosexual unless they're struggling with their own issues?

Like I said, people who are secure in themselves aren't worrying about what other people are doing.


PS. The word for heterosexuals who "don't like" homosexuals and aren't gay is "BIGOT". That's like a racist not liking someone JUST because they're black. A person is more than their sexuality inasmuch as they're more than their skin color.

And, bro, don't talk to me about reproducing. Many, MANY gay people have children it's not even funny. Do YOU have a child? People can choose to remain childless if they want. That ain't got shit to do with "nature". Tons of "heterosexual" people never naturally reproduce. The world will go on. So, stop making excuses for being a bigot. As long as there's a moron to stick his little dick in a hole, the world will go on.

LMFAO @ an argument about "reproduction"...fuckin excuses...As a gay guy, I can donate sperm and kill your argument. As a gay guy, I can fuck a chick JUST to say "look, I can be a sperm donor so that makes me better than other people".

Furthermore, your emphasis on "natural" and "reproduction" leads me to believe that YOU believe a person's entire goal in life is to have a child.?? That's ridiculous. People who are gay that don't naturally reproduce, and people who are str8 who don't have children can still be productive, healthy members of ANY society and leave legacies that improve the world. Any dumb ass moron can stick his dick in a a chick and produce a child if he WANTS TO. That doesn't make him a great person. It doesn't make him productive in society. It doesn't even make him a REAL MAN.

Get da fuck outta here with that shit bro.



Kid...You need to educate yourself something awful.

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Mad Dog 04-26-06 07:52 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
You're wrong. The issue isn't about not believing in homosexuality, it's about HATING homosexuals and actively bashing them. People who do that are confused an insecure about themselves. Where is this universal law that says "str8 people must bash and hate gay people?" It doesn't exist. Again, why would someone fear a homosexual unless they're struggling with their own issues?

Like I said, people who are secure in themselves aren't worrying about what other people are doing.


PS. The word for heterosexuals who "don't like" homosexuals and aren't gay is "BIGOT". That's like a racist not liking someone JUST because they're black. A person is more than their sexuality inasmuch as they're more than their skin color.

And, bro, don't talk to me about reproducing. Many, MANY gay people have children it's not even funny. Do YOU have a child? People can choose to remain childless if they want. That ain't got shit to do with "nature". Tons of "heterosexual" people never naturally reproduce. The world will go on. So, stop making excuses for being a bigot. As long as there's a moron to stick his little dick in a hole, the world will go on.

LMFAO @ an argument about "reproduction"...fuckin excuses...As a gay guy, I can donate sperm and kill your argument. As a gay guy, I can fuck a chick JUST to say "look, I can be a sperm donor so that makes me better than other people".

Furthermore, your emphasis on "natural" and "reproduction" leads me to believe that YOU believe a person's entire goal in life is to have a child.?? That's ridiculous. People who are gay that don't naturally reproduce, and people who are str8 who don't have children can still be productive, healthy members of ANY society and leave legacies that improve the world. Any dumb ass moron can stick his dick in a a chick and produce a child if he WANTS TO. That doesn't make him a great person. It doesn't make him productive in society. It doesn't even make him a REAL MAN.

Get da fuck outta here with that shit bro.



Kid...You need to educate yourself something awful.

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pretty much sums it up...

but i gotta ask every person in this site...

what would you prefer?

gay parents who are GOOD parents

OR

straight parents who beat & molest you?

i know what my answer would be...

Tha Q. 04-26-06 08:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
pretty much sums it up...

but i gotta ask every person in this site...

what would you prefer?

gay parents who are GOOD parents

OR

straight parents who beat & molest you?

i know what my answer would be...




Bro, you can't reason with homophobic bigots. Let me tell you how they'd answer that question.


"Well, I'd choose the parents who beat me because having a man and a woman as parents is more natural and the way God wanted."


^^Maybe those ignorant assholes can pray to God and have him remove the LUMPS upside their heads too.



Ignorance is bliss.

La Cosa Nostra 04-26-06 08:25 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
pretty much sums it up...

but i gotta ask every person in this site...

what would you prefer?

gay parents who are GOOD parents

OR

straight parents who beat & molest you?

i know what my answer would be...

Easy..

I'd have the gay parents...

Just cause their gay doesent mean I'd have to be gay myself dude...

Critic 04-26-06 08:31 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
pretty much sums it up...

but i gotta ask every person in this site...

what would you prefer?

gay parents who are GOOD parents

OR

straight parents who beat & molest you?

i know what my answer would be...


I would take the gay parents ! simple as ! but I can see some
muppets chating shit, trying to say that they would have the
parents that beat em.

1~

∆ P E X X 04-26-06 02:33 PM

I still don't see how having 2 parents of the same sex would ruin any kids life, to be honest.

Maybe now that it's illegal for two people that love each other to get married it'll be a lot less common, but in reality, most kids in the future really won't give a shit if you have same sex parents.

hell, most of the kids right now don't give a shit.


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