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∆ P E X X 05-11-06 02:42 PM

There goes Jay-Z's career..
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/son...&songID=3914398

Good night.

Mentor 05-11-06 02:58 PM

lol dont forget on makevelli's album the don killumanti the 7 day theory there's Me And My Girlfriend and on the blueprint 2 there's "Me and my girlfriend" with beyonce knowles SAME BEAT SAME HOOK just with beyonce added to it it like damn he didnt even bite no lyrics he stole the whole fuckin song!

.Eternal. 05-11-06 03:00 PM

shits old man..u jus found this shit out?

LaTiNKiTTeN 05-11-06 03:18 PM

yeah he did found it googling lol,
just like that aids conspiracy thread

Logic The Goonie 05-11-06 03:33 PM

I still don't trip off this shit, he's basically quoting famous ass lines, to supplement his shit and everything he DOES write is just as hot if not hotter. Then, if you really listen, lots of it is just famous Hip Hop sayings, not like he's really "biting" like everyone is trying to say. Then especially near the end he says shit with the same rhythm and rhyme scheme and they call it "biting", pretty homo if you ask me. =/

13th. 05-11-06 03:35 PM

wow.....thats alot of biting!

L. Veracity 05-11-06 03:42 PM

so if someone takes a concept you started and said the same thing or flipped it, you'd be happy go lucky that they went platinum off it and you were still just a local artist?...cuz Jay-Z HAS done that as well ya know

"What More Can I Say" was originally something that Lupe Fiasco (Chicago native) did years aGo, he just re-wrote parts and shit but the basic concept and beat were pretty much the same

as well as something by another Chicago rapper named Payroll, I just can't ever remember which song he took from him...but it's on the 1st BluePrint album where Kanye did the hook to his song...that's not Jay-Z beat or song

basically, Kanye West used to do beats for Payroll and gave Jay-Z the beat, hook and concept for a song that wasn't his to begin with

and that's just Chicago, imagine how many other cities there's niggas that Jay-Z has stolen from all over the WORLD, not even just the U.S. man, shit...Jay-Z is a rap magician, it's all smoke and mirrors, tricks of the trade...one BIG ass illusion

-TeamOne- 05-11-06 03:53 PM

this is old as hell heard it like 2 1/2 years ago, camron didnt make that shyt he jus put his voice on it, therefor HE bit that lmao

L. Veracity 05-11-06 03:57 PM

dawg I never said he was a producer...it's unethical for a producer to sell a beat to someone that's tryina get signed and then sell the same beat to a bigger named artist, besides that, I'd bet that JAy-Z knew someone else did a song to it before him cuz he prolly heard it and that's why he wanted it...either way, he steals from other people and that Lupe Fiasco song was done some years ago, WAY before Jay-Z's the Balck Album came out cuz my girl from Chicago heard it before...and she knows Payroll personally cuz SHE's his producer right now

either way you look at it, Jay-Z is a biter, PERIOD

locknes 05-11-06 04:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
how is that jays fault if sum1 sold the same beat twice that aint his fault

n oh ye your girl from chicago is such a reliable source :thumbup:

n every1 "borrows concepts" and makes there own version of it wats the big deal bout that, nas big n pac all had concept songs about a gun but i dont see u sayin any of them bite

none of them bite only jay z is a biter

.Ike. 05-11-06 04:28 PM

this was made like 2 yrs ago.....


then cam just recently put his voice over it......


but if it was gonna effect his career.....it would have a couple years ago

Sik Wit It 05-11-06 04:44 PM

Lol.. wow Apexx your late on this shit. This shit came out like in January. :/

Ms. Get Gully 05-11-06 08:44 PM

he was fux'n with biggie back when..im kinda agree'n bout dude that said he just qouting famous lines in hip hop. its not like he saying he made up the lines.. he's obviously qouting niggas ...they ARE indeed famous lines.

TeamOne 05-11-06 08:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by .Ike.
this was made like 2 yrs ago.....


then cam just recently put his voice over it......


but if it was gonna effect his career.....it would have a couple years ago


^^^ exactly, lmao

and i see u shoutin me out up there "fux'n"

.TeamOne. 05-11-06 09:06 PM

well, its old as hell, but its the first time i heard it... lol WOW
i didnt know he took THAT much from BIG.... and like, some of these lines were ones i thought made Jay a good artist
i KNEW he bit a million nas and BIG L lines

Blay'all 05-11-06 09:08 PM

yeah this is mad old but still doesnt prove anything... what people dont get is when you say a line from a FAMOUS song that everybody knows, it isnt biting... its more like quoting... he wasnt trying to claim those lines as his own, dumbnuts...

∆ P E X X 05-11-06 10:15 PM

"Givin props" lmao ok. he's been "givin props" for a long time then, since what 1989?



And yeah bitches, It's new to me, so THERE!!

Speakin of which lmao, anyone seen the vid for wet wipes yet?


Peep the chain


Quote:
Originally Posted by LaTiNKiTTeN
yeah he did found it googling lol,
just like that aids conspiracy thread



no you stupid clown, I heard it on a mixtape. You know mixtapes right? The shit you'll never be on?


yeaaahh. now you remember em.

Mentor 05-11-06 10:21 PM

lol yea if he was "giving props" he'd be giving shout outs to all the people he bit off in all of his songs and if he was merely giving props to the artists he took those lines from you wouldnt need ta hear this shit ta know where all those lines came from...all of ya'll are so blinded by ur ignorance that u'll rather accept it as him "giving props" to his major influences than face the fact that he's biting the shit....jay-z wouldnt be here today if it wasnt for all the legends that came along the way in hip hop

∆ P E X X 05-11-06 10:30 PM

^^exactly.


jay-z's career is like frankenstein.

A shit load of dead body parts tied together don't make a new body nukka


BTW Jazzo's been sayin Jay Z bites muhfuckas styles for YEARS now

TitoBronsky 05-12-06 12:06 AM

not for nothing but dude got a track that says....


SIX SIX SIX ... MURDA MURDA JESUSSSSSS....


if you play it backwards.....


look into it....


X-Ministries brought that one to light for me....

theres a lot of messed up ish like that right now in Hip-hop...


its sickening

Mad Dog 05-12-06 03:57 AM

man yall can defend Jay Z to the core...still don't chang ethat mans a biter...

flippin a different concept usually entitles different words diff style of flow but only same subject

BUT Jay's not doing that...boo @ him

especially him biting in "Got me on my shit"

biting Pac's lines from Against All Odds...and in the hook goin "all eyez on me" and "me against all odds"

Valerie 05-12-06 03:59 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
"Givin props" lmao ok. he's been "givin props" for a long time then, since what 1989?



And yeah bitches, It's new to me, so THERE!!

Speakin of which lmao, anyone seen the vid for wet wipes yet?


Peep the chain





no you stupid clown, I heard it on a mixtape. You know mixtapes right? The shit you'll never be on?


yeaaahh. now you remember em.


lmfao @ this .

Mad Dog 05-12-06 04:15 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by B!ayboy
yeah this is mad old but still doesnt prove anything... what people dont get is when you say a line from a FAMOUS song that everybody knows, it isnt biting... its more like quoting... he wasnt trying to claim those lines as his own, dumbnuts...


hahahahahaha....HE MADE MONEY OFF OTHER PEOPLES WORDS...DUMBNUT

such a fucking Jay Z cock rider...i'm telling you ANYONE ON HERE BIT 1 LINE...you'd be the type to go ahh fucking biter boo get off the site...AND defend a biter who uses other peoples lyrics for promotion/profit...

shit even P. Diddy don't bite...and he's plain wack...

check his shoutout section in his album covers he don't give props to no-1 because he jacked a lyric...also i'm betting that if you check the tracklisting inside the album cover in the "written by" section you won't find Tupac, Biggie, Big L, and anyone else he stole shit from

no he's not claimin to be his own...i'm so glad i changed my name...this post is the first to excercise my name

Valerie 05-12-06 04:54 AM

Who cares he retired anyways.

leady 05-12-06 05:00 AM

fuck people tryna defend jigga.

OK, he said he was quoting lines from the legend biggy, but he has NEVER EVER EVER said anything about the slick rick, 2pac, snoop dogg e.t.c e.t.c lines he has bitten, he has bitten lines, full songs, hooks, styles, there isnt anything in the art of rap he hasnt bitten from somebody else, EVERYTHING about him has been taken from other people, i mean listen to them bites, he has over half verse sections of somebody elses lyrics WORD FOR FUCKIN WORD.

but what REALLY pisses me off is, if somebody from here, me, apexx, ike anybody was to go and bite like jay-z does then we would get hell for it, get called all the names under the sun, and any reputation tarnished, but just cos its jay-z doing it then its ok??? fuck out of here, ok next song i make, im gonna go and bite a big l song, do abit of re-working and then say "im just quoting famous lines" that way, it will be ok for me to do it :thumbup: fuckin morons.

leady 05-12-06 05:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
^^exactly.


jay-z's career is like frankenstein.

A shit load of dead body parts tied together don't make a new body nukka


BTW Jazzo's been sayin Jay Z bites muhfuckas styles for YEARS now


yeh man, jay-z and jazzo used to be real tight aswell, so u know when one of jay's own friends coming out with that shit, blah fuck it, too many ignorant muppets on here.

Mad Dog 05-12-06 05:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
if somebody from here, me, apexx, ike anybody was to go and bite like jay-z does then we would get hell for it


ye but you see people think Jay's "original"...so if you bite a jigga line...you've blatantly bit half of the industry...which is fucked...boo @ Gay Z... yes boo right up his biting raggedy arsehole...

Dirty Nigga 05-12-06 06:54 AM

Y'all suck ass.

For real, all y'all can do is try rippin on an emcee thats makin millions.

Come back and complain about how horrible Jay is when you got a few mil in your account and your fuckin beyonce anally.

Mad Dog 05-12-06 07:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iLL-n-TenShUnZ
Y'all suck ass.

For real, all y'all can do is try rippin on an emcee thats makin millions.

Come back and complain about how horrible Jay is when you got a few mil in your account and your fuckin beyonce anally.


the man got there through OTHER PEOPLES TALENT BRO

perhaps when he ACTUALLY starts writing original songs and making HIS OWN music with HIS OWN FLOW then ye...i'll shut up...but you wrong...majorly wrong man...like i said

JAy cock rider...you the type of guy who'll defend him till the end...he's a scheming prick...trust if you were on the level of Big/Pac...he'd be jacking your shit, making money off it and leaving you in the lurch beliee dat

P.S speaking of rippin on a rapper that makes millions...where are you when people rip on Ja, or 50?...i'll tell you...right there with 'em :thumbup:

Dirty Nigga 05-12-06 07:14 AM

Nah I'm not.

I like 50.

always have, always will...and I ripp on Ja cuz 50 owned him.

but Jay iz creative enough without using other emcees rhymes, and besides alot of people in the industry ''recycle'' old school rhymes, mainly from Big Daddy Kane and Run DMC...It aint just Jay thats a biter.

Mad Dog 05-12-06 07:20 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iLL-n-TenShUnZ
Nah I'm not.

I like 50.

always have, always will...and I ripp on Ja cuz 50 owned him.

but Jay iz creative enough without using other emcees rhymes, and besides alot of people in the industry ''recycle'' old school rhymes, mainly from Big Daddy Kane and Run DMC...It aint just Jay thats a biter.


you get most rappers recycling famous lines ye...but jays completely taking other lines from rappers and "claiming" to use them as shout outs...well i'm sorry bro...it's not on...but yet you still rip on ja and as far as i know...he ain't jacked lines...he's the most well known biter...i know ima make a track biting lines from rappers and see what response i get...let's put it to the test

Critic 05-12-06 07:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iLL-n-TenShUnZ
Nah I'm not.

I like 50.

always have, always will...and I ripp on Ja cuz 50 owned him.

but Jay iz creative enough without using other emcees rhymes, and besides alot of people in the industry ''recycle'' old school rhymes, mainly from Big Daddy Kane and Run DMC...It aint just Jay thats a biter.



So I can rip Jay-Z coz Nas owned the fuck out of him !!
Don't make sense fams !!!

Z Is a dirty biter he don' come original as well !! I can stand the man
never have never will.

As for the whole quoting thing !! I'm just gonna stop writing and
rob other peoples lines !! ** I'm not biting ** I'm quoting !! ha ha
what bull shit !

1~

L. Veracity 05-12-06 11:59 AM

PIMPIN Ain't Ez or whatever ya name is lol ...my home girl from Chicago is a producer out there that kows and associates with a lot of underground rappers in the Chicago area ...Lupe Fiasco's manager hoLLa'd at her for beats for his album like last year, before she even knew who he was, so she told 'em no ...she's been in -studio with Shawnna before and she knows the dude that taught Kanye everything he knows about making beats and she PERSONALLY knows the dude that Jay-Z bit a song from
is she credible enough now?...

as for 50Cent, he ragged on Ja Rule for singing on his label-mates hooks and shit and now that's the SAME thing that he does...how does that make him better than Ja Rule? ROFLMAO ...man I swear you kids need special-ed class
the shit ya'll say is just RETARDED!!


P.S. werd @ Leady ...if someone "paid homage" to Jay-Z and "borrowed" some of his lyrics they'd be called a biter, so it's the same thing he's doing and he doesn't give writer credits to other niggas so he IS stealing!! you people need to open your eyes and ears and think about it in terms of if he wasn't such a large-scale artist...it'd be biting if he wasn't, so it's STILL biting either way

Paper View 05-12-06 03:22 PM

When it comes to biters no one does it like Tyson! Got Ear?

∆ P E X X 05-12-06 03:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
no she aint its all know sum1 who know sum1 blah blah all that dont mean sht for all i know u makin this person up come on how am i ment to believe this


n for the second part on run it santana says i know wat girls like i know wat they want they wanna stay up n party all night

he took that from a jay song where he says i know wat girls want i know wat they like they want to sex me they think im sexy


that whole part juelz flowed the exact same way n all but i am in no way sayin he bit he was givin jay props there jus cause it was so ovious it was a jay line that u cudnt try n pull it off as your own jus like wat jay did wit his lines

oh n juelz said that in the intro to his part jus like wat jay does wit most his "biten" lines

but i aint callin him a biter for that even tho i dont like him so wat u sayin there is completly wrong



or maybe he got it from the 1980's song "I know what boys like" by the Waitresses, which Jay Z also re-flipped. Here's the lyrics, you ass hat: http://www.80smusiclyrics.com/artists/waitresses.htm

Stop talkin outta your ass man, you dunno WHAT the hell you're sayin.


And WORD to Leady @ ignorant muppets lmao.

what do you expect from people who think money means skills? What a waste of life.

Leady, I'm sure you know Jay-Z got his name from Jazzo who he used to sweat rediculously right?

Jay-z should pay royalties to every raper he snacks off of for writing his rhymes.


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