So, should Barry Bonds be recognized in the history books or not?
 

1st off, has he admitted to using steroids?

Neway...If it comes out that he used juice in his career to aid him, should his homerun record count?



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nope........ it shouldnt...... it is pretty bad tho that we will prolly NEVER know the truth since, if he did used steroids, he def. stopped now cuz he knows that baseball is really crackin down on him now along with everyone else......

even if he did use steroids......we all know that he isn't the only one who did....so yea he should be recognized in the year books...i mean....its baseball..baseball doesnt' take any athletic skill whatsoever...throw, catch, hit a ball with a bat...hell if your fast thats a plus..get around the bases quicker.

man...look at the difference between Babe Ruth's physique and Bonds'

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yea he should. stop hating on bonds

ruth and babe were both fat......shit.....hahahha

Bonds is gay. Fucking cheater.

Aaron deserves to have the top spot. That's going to be so gay if Bonds passes him up.

Hank Aaron still has the record though. =/

That's why I said it'd be so gay IF Bonds passes him up.

Bonds shouldn't have passed Ruth up. . Bonds should be at like, #34,361 in the record books not #2. He cheated, how can you justify that?

Who's hating? I asked a question.

if the dude cheated he should not be recognized........plain and simple...... i dont get ppl who say that he should get recognized even if it was PROVEN beyond a doubt that he cheated and used steroids..... back wen aaron and ruth were playin they prolly didnt even know wat steroids were... hell, they prolly didnt even have protein shakes or power bars, or any shit like that....... especially for Ruth

your right back then it was a pitchers game the pichers where the dominent player pichers back then would pitch every 2 days and not be tired
plus any ways your all forgetting ruth was a pitcher for his first 5 years

but by the way we dont know when he started using steroids thats the problem
and we will never know

My bad, I thought you said Babe Ruth should have the record. :o

i dont think he will get the record he has to hit 41 home runs and at his current pace he is expected to hit 34 home runs and this will most likely be his final season

No,their were no steriods in Ruth's days.
But guess what?
His records are FAR more tainted than Bonds.
Just remember,in his time,Blacks and Hispanics were not allowed in the major leagues.So the competition was waaaaaaaaay inferior.So have to ask...would Babe hit 714 if he faced pitchers like Jose Mendez or John Donaldson?I think not.

Ruth would face the same pitchers over and over again.Since situational specialists coming out the bullpen was less prominent back then.Obviouly that makes things easier.Seeing the same pitchers over and over again...

As for Aaron,one of his teamates(davey johnson) said everyone was on the juice back then.Including Henry himself.Can we believe that one guy?I dunno...
But Jose Canseco(a steriod user himself) said when a player excels at an old age,that's ussually a sign.Obviously,Bonds is guilty of this.But so is Hank Aaron.At age 39,he hit 40 home runs...........in 392 AB....Think about that..

I think Bonds used steroids.But so did 90% of the players.And it's clear he started using it in 2002.But remember,he was a first ballot Hall of Famer BEFORE HE USED IT.He would have 500 home runs anyways.And he would be a 500 hr,500 Sb player.That's first ballot.

Yes,he should be recognized in the record books.We all THINK he used steriods,based on his age,performance,size..etc.But we don't know.He's never admitted it,nor failed a drug test.Guys like Palmerio and endless minor leaguers get caught after taking the drug test.But Barry hasn't.Unless you think he's on some undetactable stuff.Which would be as dumb as believing that Aaron and Ruth's numbers are clean.

word^^^ppl like mim dont know wut they talkin bout

yes they also didnt let any of the negro league records in.
there was a black player i forget his name who hit 80 home runs in one season

bonds in no way will ever take the spots of ruth or aaron....

nobody will ever look at him the same as them..unless theyre from san fran...and u know how them fucks are anyways...


BUT...i do hope he passes aaron..why?..because i have a nice lil autographed barry bonds baseball bat....engraved with certificate of authenticity....got it when i was in 3rd grade....best believe im puttin that son of a bitch on ebay the day he breaks the record or dies.....word

wait till he dies but wait a few years

I'ts cuz he black!

















haha...SIKE

I think they should put an asterisk by the stat.

Bonds probably was juicin before 2002 if u look at when he started hitting homeruns and his size got so massive...... im sure some of u know that until Bonds got a few years into the majors, that he was NEVER a homerun hitter..... he never even led his own team in homeruns until he joined the MLB which is extemely suspicious.... he was a always a basehitter.... and a great one at that, but we're not dealin with if he would still be in the hall of fame if he juiced or not...... we're only dealing with whether he juiced or not (which in my mind happened beyond a doubt) and if he did, should his record count.......

which should be hell fuckin no....... unless u wanna do some asterik shit..... which they prolly will do even if it is never actually proven he used steroids (which i agree, would be a shame)

and to NK..... Ruth was subject to the times he lived in.... it is not his fault that he never faced any black or hispanic pitchers... however, taking steroids is a choice.... u cant blame ruth for sumthin that he had almost no control over.....

that is stupid they didnt put one when roger maris hit his 61 home run
what makes you think there gonna do it now!!!
and hes has said he has never knowingly took steroids who knows we willl never find out

and they never added a asterisk to his 73season home runs wahat makes you think this is gonna change

Isn't saying he didn't knowingly take steroids like saying you didn't knowingly get a prostate examine?


Don't they inject it in ya ass. He's not dumb is he?

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your crazy spul^

but bonds should be recognized, you cant negate 715 homers as a farce
regardless he still did something all those other muscle heads aint even close too
But it dont matter, either Alex Rodriguez or someone like Pujols will be the overall leader in like 10 years anyway

^^^^^^^ agreed........ i think pujols is def on track to pass up everyone...... hes hit like atleast 40 homeruns in every season in the Majors..... crazy shit... kinda like Sosa with the mad consistency until he fell off and/or stopped takin steroids

and im a chicago cubs fan, but i can still admit that sosa was prolly juicin, especially with his major fall off after they cracked down on usin steroids

yea pujols or a rod will take it over

Ichiro will be the HR leader in a couple yrs. WOOO GO MARINERS!!!!

speaking of the mariners................how ARE they doing these days?
GO YANKEES btw

lmao we suck.. 22-31 :(

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There is no proof he cheated

has he ever failed a test

If the feds find out he told the truth

the dickheads who wrote that book are fucked


AND WHAT ABOUT Mcguire , Palmeiro or how ever you spell em AND GIAMBI , SOSA they openly got caught or admitted it

People have always hated on bonds as long as ive watched baseball

AND WHAT ABOUT PUJOLS AND AROD AND MANNY ARE THEY NEXT

nah, nobody is gonna be stupid enuff to get caught NOW
and if they do, they deserve it
and fuck you've been ice, its hotshh
whattup

I didnt mean they would use em

I just ment their the next to be accused


i been here there and doing some bullshit on this house i inherited

How you been

chilling but peep the other thread, you should just paint the house if its pink, and when you sell it, raise your asking price, that way if they try to lower the asking price it'll still be what you wanted for the house

I don't understand why there's this "don't ask don't tell" mentality surrounding this issue in baseball. Everyone knows people juice up. All you have to do is look at the forearms and traps of those players. It's nearly impossible to get that big, that quick, with diet and exercise alone.

neway...speaking of houses...they had a special giveaway in this area a few months ago...I think it was the state of Maryland that was selling houses for 1 dollar!

The catch was, you had to move the house off the land it was on because it was being developed for something else.

If I had somewhere to put an entire house, I would have bought one.


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word to that^^^^
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he cosigns for heads and if they default on payments, he takes over, sells the house, pays the bank and makes mad profit
Ima try and get my license in real estate soon