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Tha Q. 05-28-06 11:17 PM

Scientists finally confirm that AIDS originated with primates
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/chimps_hiv





There go the ridiculous conspiracy theories.










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Mentor 05-28-06 11:40 PM

they been sayin that since i was int he 5th grade

Compose 05-28-06 11:50 PM

and how do you know you can believe them?

oh and i thought you left?, i leave for 2 weeks and come back and you're back, but i didnt need to make a goodbye thread, so yea, why dont you leave and never come back for once.

La Cosa Nostra 05-29-06 12:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
and how do you know you can believe them?

Bingo...

I dont really have an opinion on whether aids is man made or not...

Most people who take sides are just posing anyway....

Tha Q. 05-29-06 03:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentor
they been sayin that since i was int he 5th grade



Yep, exactly...

Viruses occur naturally in nature. I'm not quite sure why that's so hard to believe for some folk.













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La Cosa Nostra 05-29-06 03:31 AM

Q name one other virus that occurs naturally that is even half as bad and wide spread as aids.......

Just out of interest..

Terumoto 05-29-06 03:33 AM

Who cares where it originated. It's like some guy putting a gun to my head, and instead of fighting or running I sit there and think "Hmmm... I wonder where he bought that gun from? K-Mart? Joe's Fire-arms? I wonder..."

Its a problem already, people should just work on research into preventions/cures.

Tha Q. 05-29-06 03:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terumoto
Who cares where it originated. It's like some guy putting a gun to my head, and instead of fighting or running I sit there and think "Hmmm... I wonder where he bought that gun from? K-Mart? Joe's Fire-arms? I wonder..."

Its a problem already, people should just work on research into preventions/cures.




Well, knowing where it came from can help scientists to discovers ways to cure it.


BTW, there'll be a vaccine for AIDS before a cure.




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Magic5 05-29-06 03:42 AM

We can only hope that the vaccines comes after you catch it and die.

Valerie 05-29-06 03:46 AM

were also studing how humans can survive off of aids since chimps can and there 99% alike humans.

Tha Q. 05-29-06 03:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by .Theory.
were also studing how humans can survive off of aids since chimps can and there 99% alike humans.



yea man...What that says evolutionarily speaking is that the virus evolved with CHimps over a long period of time, but was recently introduced with humans. That coincides and corroborates the timeline of the Aids epidemic. Any "new" virus that's introduced into a population will most likely be ravenous to the point of having a high mortality rate until the species it kills can adapt to it. The problem is, we can't wait that long because Aids is killing way too many people.





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Valerie 05-29-06 03:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
yea man...What that says evolutionarily speaking is that the virus evolved with CHimps over a long period of time, but was recently introduced with humans. That coincides and corroborates the timeline of the Aids epidemic. Any "new" virus that's introduced into a population will most likely be ravenous to the point of having a high mortality rate until the species it kills can adapt to it. The problem is, we can't wait that long because Aids is killing way too many people.





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well there trying as quick as they can so that we can get people to live while having aids and not die.

∆ P E X X 05-29-06 03:37 PM

lmao at 25 year old news being announcement-worthy to Q.

one day you'll realize that primates can't transmit viruses to humans with completely different blood types.

then you'll realize that what you read is complete bullshit.


cmon son, I expected a guy with a different fantasy-degree every week to AT LEAST be smart to see the blood conflict.

∆ P E X X 05-30-06 08:13 PM

what happened Q, I thought you surely would have glued together another hodge-podge of your ideas into a "counter argument" by now.


are you getting wiser by accepting biological facts, or are you getting more ignorant by ignoring them?

Valerie 05-30-06 08:45 PM

oh well bitchin about it aint helpin out none.

K.ontroverz.Y 05-31-06 12:33 PM

Funny how we put trust in scientists. They couid be lying. If i was a mad sciencist I could say anything at random and the world would believe it. All i need to do is write about it and put it on google. Soon enough somebody will see it and it will be all over the internet. How do you know that it wasn't made from a scientist? how do we know that the scientists didn't infect the lakes in africa and blame it on the africans. People are soo busy scrambling for an explanation they'll believe anything.

Really i could care less how it was created. All i know is that its a problem now. Thats all that really matters.

Tha Q. 05-31-06 12:51 PM

the image of a "mad" scientist with WILD hair wearing a white coat is a stereotype bro.




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David Lama 05-31-06 12:52 PM

oh sure just cause they say it it has to be true LOL

K.ontroverz.Y 05-31-06 12:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
the image of a "mad" scientist with WILD hair wearing a white coat is a stereotype bro.




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so your saying every single scientist is honest and tries to help the world. A little bit of money can change anybodys mind

SpokenBluntly 05-31-06 01:35 PM

LOL that article can't even begin to show Any of You the bigger picture of aids or the history that surrounds it...Just as Apex pointed out..the blood is different..the reason why a Chimp is a Chimp and a Human is Human is because there is a seperate DNA make up..DNA transfusions are near to impossible..to literally draw out someone (or some animals) genetic structure and put it into someone (or some other animal) is ludicris.either the human would die instantly..or the animal woould..It got here some other way.....now thats your opinion to decide how..i won't place my opinion of any of u cats

Tha Q. 05-31-06 01:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
so your saying every single scientist is honest and tries to help the world. A little bit of money can change anybodys mind



I'm not saying every scientist is honest. But, the image of a "mad scientist" is a stereotype.





Quote:
Originally Posted by David Lama
oh sure just cause they say it it has to be true LOL




What's true is that there're viruses that occur in nature that don't kill the hosts. What's true is that we share over 90% of our DNA with Chimps. What's true is that every scientist that's studying AIDS is NOT from the United States. It's not logical to suggest there's an international cover up by ALL scientists.

Viruses occur in nature. That's not hard to believe. As for the exact manner in which Aids crossed from other primates to us, that's still up in the air.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpokenBluntly
LOL that article can't even begin to show Any of You the bigger picture of aids or the history that surrounds it...Just as Apex pointed out..the blood is different..the reason why a Chimp is a Chimp and a Human is Human is because there is a seperate DNA make up..DNA transfusions are near to impossible..to literally draw out someone (or some animals) genetic structure and put it into someone (or some other animal) is ludicris.either the human would die instantly..or the animal woould..It got here some other way.....now thats your opinion to decide how..i won't place my opinion of any of u cats



Who's talkig about genetic structure? A virus is a foreign antigen in a host's body. We share over 90% of our DNA with chimps. That has little to do with the mutation of a virus, unless that mutation allows for what happened, to actually happen.

Also, the difference between human to human is very small


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∆ P E X X 05-31-06 01:55 PM

If you believe that AIDS came through primates blood, then you might as well believe that AIDS coulda came from Chickens, or...rabbits or...horses, or any other animal with completely different blood.

wake up.

Magic5 05-31-06 03:23 PM

God damnt @ me originally thinking this was true. Now that Tha Q has said it, it pretty much guarantees that I was wrong. SHIT!

*Runs back to the drawing board*

locknes 05-31-06 04:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
If you believe that AIDS came through primates blood, then you might as well believe that AIDS coulda came from Chickens, or...rabbits or...horses, or any other animal with completely different blood.

wake up.

watch him dodge that one as he does all of your statements

~Luciano~ 05-31-06 04:08 PM

this is Old......

Indeph 05-31-06 04:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
God damnt @ me originally thinking this was true. Now that Tha Q has said it, it pretty much guarantees that I was wrong. SHIT!

*Runs back to the drawing board*




Rofl *dead*

∆ P E X X 05-31-06 06:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
God damnt @ me originally thinking this was true. Now that Tha Q has said it, it pretty much guarantees that I was wrong. SHIT!

*Runs back to the drawing board*

lmao sad but true.
Quote:
Originally Posted by locknes
watch him dodge that one as he does all of your statements


pfftt..man you said it.


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