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The Creator 06-07-06 06:26 PM

Canibus
 
canibus is the illest MC ever but he's underaded even though he destroyed LL back in the days....the problem to me is that he can spit hot shit but he doesn't know how to make some shit u can bump to...He has a lot of good songs though like,

Liberal arts ft. Jedi Mind tricks on the MIC Club cd wich bombed cuz he had no good beats to listen to....

Navy seal ft. Free

Nigganometry

J.O.B.

U Didn't care....(song in which he re-enacts the stan situation with him being stan writing a letter to Eminem after he gets out of the hospital from the accident....

that one shit he droped over Reakwon beat a long while ago...

and a lot of other songs...

so why cant he put all these really good tracks together and make one big hot canibus album. whats holding him down from achieving that perfect album like

2 pac - makaveli the don 7 day theory

biggies - ready to die

big puns - capital punishment

Nas's - Illmatic
&
Jay Z's - Dynasty

Czar Bishop 06-07-06 07:17 PM

Okay. I don't mean to hate... okay, yes I do. I HATE CANIBUS. I actually think he's OVERrated.

Gopha 06-07-06 07:28 PM

Quote:
Jay Z's - Dynasty

^^no you mean Jay Z's - Reasonable Doubt, Dynasty was right when he sold out and sucked balls... Reasonable shits on anything he ever has or will do...

Daubs 06-07-06 07:30 PM

He got an ill voice on the track wit sick multis.

hes decent.

Gopha 06-07-06 07:31 PM

actually thinkin back on it, he sold out way before Dynasty, but dynasty still sucked balls compared to Reasonable

Nynth Degree 06-07-06 07:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raw King
canibus is the illest MC ever

Negative. He was hot for his first 2 albums, as well as his mixtape appearances ("Fantastic Four" off DJ Clue's The Professional is forever a classic), but after that he fell off.

His 3rd album was complete doo doo, so with that said, he's not the illest MC ever.

Young Kidd (LM) 06-07-06 09:14 PM

he's slightly overated...just because people are always on him...no offense if you like him..but most people are like "He's the illest emcee ever" but personally i dont think he is...i think he's got sick lines and multi's but sometimes he has some out there songs that make no sense..lol....its all good though...he used to be the illest...but now he kinda fell off..

The Creator 06-08-06 01:17 AM

(I oppologize a head for this but I honestly own almost all of Jay Z's cds but I never heard reasonable doubt befor...I'll cop it after I getz paid again to make up for it...and I think the dynasty was ill...not the entire cd becouse memphis bleek is wak on almost all the tracks though...but most songs..)

ur all right in ur own way....Im not sure if u understood my question though....becouse on the songs that I mentioned plus noumerouse others such as his mixtapes like 9th d stated...Canibus spit some of the illest metaphores and multis and with ur precouse vocab dat most u guy hollar about in all the votes and shit....but wat is he missing to U that u think might make him Ill again....becouse I admit he fell off on his cds and Im dissapointed when I by a cd...but he keeps coming out wit hot shit that I never heard befor from no where that'll make me wanna start buying again...wat do u think he would need to make that perfect album...?

La Cosa Nostra 06-08-06 01:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 9th Degree
Negative. He was hot for his first 2 albums, as well as his mixtape appearances ("Fantastic Four" off DJ Clue's The Professional is forever a classic), but after that he fell off.

His 3rd album was complete doo doo, so with that said, he's not the illest MC ever.

Pretty much.....

Ebircs 06-08-06 01:25 AM

i've actualy talked wiith dude through e-mail....he said he's cookin up some sick shit as of now....he fell off mostly because of wack labels...and part presentation and promotion and shit....and a few other things..partly his fault...he's not the illest "mc" all around...but lyricist..yeah...he's the illest.....well...idk...between chino and pap and him..it's close

La Cosa Nostra 06-08-06 01:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Çhö-каhй Miшaйg
i've actualy talked wiith dude through e-mail....he said he's cookin up some sick shit as of now....he fell off mostly because of wack labels...and part presentation and promotion and shit....and a few other things..partly his fault...he's not the illest "mc" all around...but lyricist..yeah...he's the illest.....well...idk...between chino and pap and him..it's close

Pap doesent even come close... He raps about meaningless crap a lot...

Chino is an awesome writer, but doesent have the flow...

And Canibus is too underground, very hit and miss and people who arnt into heavy lyricism dont really feel his shit...

You know who I recon is the illest MC to ever do it...


....Its pac...

Ebircs 06-08-06 01:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Pap doesent even come close... He raps about meaningless crap a lot...

Chino is an awesome writer, but doesent have the flow...

And Canibus is too underground, very hit and miss and people who arnt into heavy lyricism dont really feel his shit...

You know who I recon is the illest MC to ever do it...


....Its pac...



pap....yeah...he's not much of a message MC..he's proved he CAN when needed though....it's just not his thing....but dudes wordplay and metas are nice man...it's not super complex shit...lota sit like "damn...i coulda thought of that"...but not to simple either...like a..lloyd banks is...

Chino...idk man..he has flow just not the normal flow ppl accept as "the flow" he jus has his style..well...yeah..dude uses too many words in his bars i guess...but he makes it fit well IMO..and for lines like he drops..i'll let the "proper flow" thing slip up anyday of the week....I'd MUCH rather hear some sick ass metas and wordplays w a nice flow then garbage ass lyrics over a perfect flow....


Bis..wtfs "too underground" ?..I don't get that..if this is a argument for best emcee...I said he wasent the best emcee....is why i said lyricist...and for the "not into lyrics"..hey..thats why theirs lil flip and young joc i guess....


and pac...for greatest emcee...thats opinion..but not one i'll argue...because I havent really made up my mind on that one ....proly never will

Young Kidd (LM) 06-08-06 02:11 AM

^ i really a agree with that...

One thing about bis is sometimes do something else for me...i mean yea hes got that heavy lyricism..but it gets old to me..so to improve i dont know do something else..lol hard to explain..ill do that later..

The Creator 06-08-06 02:34 AM

yeah....Pap...I honestly cant stand his voice...he did a mixtape track wit canibus and did ok but canibus still came out on top...chino...I use to be really into his shit but recently..his voice got annoying to me too....not to take way from none of they skillz though...just I can hear they voice for too long...lol but ya'll prove a big point on the real...thanks I felt like some of this shit just had to be said cuz canibus was getting slept on for too long cuz his albums have flopd and i didn't really understand why...1

Ebircs 06-08-06 02:43 AM

bis was/is my fav rapper but Pap ripped him on the gorilla monsoon beat..IMO

Terumoto 06-08-06 06:11 AM

Canibus... Canibus...

There is no mistaking he is the best lyricist to grace the mic. But it really depends on what you consider good lyrics. Is it lyrics that flow? Lyrics that sound cool when you rhyme them? Lyrics with meaning?

Basically nobody can touch canibus when it comes to complex rhyme schemes, advanced wordplay and metaphors (often that need research to get what hes talking about) and an ability to make basically any word rhyme, because of the way his voice is. Plus the freestyles he spits that arent pre written are fire.

In that sense, he is the best lyricist.

Best MC? Well, what is an MC? Is an MC a lyricist, or is an MC somebody who can rock a crowd?

Canibus probably couldnt rock a crowd better than snoop or like 50 cent or whatever. But what he lacks in diversity, he makes up with insane complexity and intelligence behind his music. Plus his flow is ill, if youre into that kind of flow.

Dirty Nigga 06-08-06 07:36 AM

How anyone gonna sit there sayin Canibus is ill and pap is wack?

Papoose not only lyrically wipes the floor wit canibus little canadian ass....but he's a far better song writer too..

Pap got mad game...dont get me wrong tho...Canibus is aight...but he aint the greatest..nu uh..

Terumoto 06-08-06 08:25 AM

Pap is definitely not a better "lyricist" than Bis.

Better MC? Maybe.

La Cosa Nostra 06-08-06 09:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iLLiN'-TeNsHuNz
Papoose not only lyrically wipes the floor wit canibus little canadian ass....but he's a far better song writer too....



AHAHAHHAHA This post was hilarious....

Shows how much you know pal...

N.Tavarez 06-08-06 09:50 AM

theres no excuse for canibus being in the game this long, with that many albums and STILL not know how to make music we all can listen too
i liked canibus..........back in 2000
no excuse for the garbage songs he be letting out
i dont wanna listen to 10 songs just to hear you spit 2 good metaphors

Mad Dog 06-08-06 11:11 AM

9 outta 10 of these rap artists is garbage

get g-get g-get retarded...

fuck it Canibus is cool imo

The Creator 06-08-06 12:36 PM

wat does IMO mean? and all these other internet acranyms? pap can spit like that alphabet shit and I really only heard that and two other tracks from him...I think one of em was for the funk flex car show shit...but it was really wak though so I can only base him on wat Iv heard....and I aint gonna search for his shit if I dont like wat Iv heard so far...so till I hear anything good from em that I can bump and rewind all day long....He aint on my list...sorry...


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