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Ysdat 06-15-06 11:39 PM

what gets me about christian preachers
 
You see these cunts on TV, they doing there thing, they spreading th word of god and putting "good faith" into the followers.

Then at the end of the show you see this shit.....

"you can buy gods message and they new testamant for a lot price of 5 easy payments of $12.50"

to me thats fucked up, if gods word is so good, why they tryna make money off it, why arent they delivering his message for free.

Christians have got there own belif and prioritys twisted. No wonder gods left earth to self destruct.

Indeph 06-15-06 11:46 PM

God didn't leave earth to die. We just constantly ignore the influence inside of us that could make up his or her position.

Valerie 06-15-06 11:51 PM

I believe what I want to believe like heaven and hell. but how can another human look at u and be like son your gonna go to hell!? shits confusing cus there same as me human but he has a black robe on and i dont.

La Cosa Nostra 06-15-06 11:59 PM

Christianity went astray in 325 AD, when the crumbling Roman Empire declaired that Jesus Christ was not a man but an aspect of the very deity that had built the universe.

Ysdat 06-16-06 12:05 AM

I seriously feel strongly that christianity wrecked earth.

Im not talking about those who "find god" and turn christian and it makes them happy, good for them/
Im talking about the wide spread mass appeal and some what of a cult that has people thinking in a fucked up mindstate.

Valerie 06-16-06 12:07 AM

im christian but i feel where you both are commin from.

word. :cool:

JTR 06-16-06 12:53 AM

fuck religion, it's religion that has fucked up this entire world, don't single out a single religion, it's religion in general...

Past Tense 06-16-06 12:59 AM

I think its cuz they need support too have the t.v show

JTR 06-16-06 01:01 AM

How about, religion fucked the world up? ^^ K? K.

Blay'all 06-16-06 01:44 AM

dude, are you kidding me?

you're the one being ignorant here... okay, look at what you're talking about - somebody on TV... so, thats like saying all rappers suck because 50 Cent is on TV... i hate to break it to you, but the average "christian preacher" is NOT trying to sell annointed miracle water, lol...

JTR 06-16-06 01:45 AM

^^ But religion ruined the world...

Blay'all 06-16-06 01:48 AM

^ yes many of the world's problems route back to religion, but that doesnt make it bad... you're looking at it from the wrong angle... thats like saying if you stand up for whats right and cause an uproar (say Civil Rights), you're in the wrong for doing that...

JTR 06-16-06 02:11 AM

meh, I was about to start an arguemant, and then I got bored of the subject before I even started typing, so i'm going to bed now. You win :)

Ysdat 06-16-06 02:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blayboy
dude, are you kidding me?

you're the one being ignorant here... okay, look at what you're talking about - somebody on TV... so, thats like saying all rappers suck because 50 Cent is on TV... i hate to break it to you, but the average "christian preacher" is NOT trying to sell annointed miracle water, lol...


I would debate with you, but your comparing what I said to 50 cent, so yeh.
Ill leave you with a smile :)

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:07 AM

i love how everybody's response to me in this thread is "i would argue with you, but"... my job here is done :)

La Cosa Nostra 06-16-06 03:08 AM

Well what the fuck can christians say?

They believe things that cant be proven or observed under any scientific conditions..

Basically.. Their gullable enough to believe stuff just because a preacher told them to...

.........:laugh:

The church is an entity that is out to control peoples minds and make money from it..

Always have been, alwa............No wait...

I believe the church wont be around for that much longer in reletive terms anyway..

So who cares...

Indeph 06-16-06 03:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blayboy
dude, are you kidding me?

you're the one being ignorant here... okay, look at what you're talking about - somebody on TV... so, thats like saying all rappers suck because 50 Cent is on TV... i hate to break it to you, but the average "christian preacher" is NOT trying to sell annointed miracle water, lol...


I would argue with you, but you're not worth my time.

Ysdat 06-16-06 03:09 AM

bro.

You compared me saying "why do preachers try make money off of the people they are so called tryna save and teach
with
50 cents on TV making money.

Your grounds of continuing to talk to me ont his topic doesnt stand so shhhhhhhhhh.:)

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:12 AM

^ what i said made perfect sense...
you my friend, are not...

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Well what the fuck can christians say?

They believe things that cant be proven or observed under any scientific conditions..

Basically.. Their gullable enough to believe stuff just because a preacher told them to...

.........:laugh:

The church is an entity that is out to control peoples minds and make money from it..

Always have been, alwa............No wait...

I believe the church wont be around for that much longer in reletive terms anyway..

So who cares...

will you pleeeeeeeeeeeease stop generalizing all Christians/churches... i dare you to find an Episcopalian pastor doin any of that stuff...

Indeph 06-16-06 03:13 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Well what the fuck can christians say?

They believe things that cant be proven or observed under any scientific conditions..

Basically.. Their gullable enough to believe stuff just because a preacher told them to...

.........:laugh:

The church is an entity that is out to control peoples minds and make money from it..

Always have been, alwa............No wait...

I believe the church wont be around for that much longer in reletive terms anyway..

So who cares...


Scientests don't know EVERYTHING. There are plenty of things going on in the world that we don't know of. Real knowledge is knowing you know nothing at all. All that shit about God creating the world and jesus being the messiah, is just as liable as a little orb exploded for no reason and created everything.

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indeph
Scientests don't know EVERYTHING. There are plenty of things going on in the world that we don't know of. Real knowledge is knowing you know nothing at all. All that shit about God creating the world and jesus being the messiah, is just as liable as a little orb exploded for no reason and created everything.

exxxxxactly... im not one of these ignorant Christians like most of you atheists or Non-Christians or whatever you are seem to be... i believe in evolution, in my opinion faith can tell us what happened and science can tell us how...

Ysdat 06-16-06 03:17 AM

blay.

You got onto some fucked up miracle water talk when I simply stated, that they blatently try make money off of there "followers" when shouldnt religion be information received for free, you shouldnt give a taste of the so called "christian facts" then try make money when people feel they need that extra peice of information.

50 cent is a entertainment,entertainment is a money making undustry.

wow, i feel like im schooling a fucking pre school kid.

bro, time to be quiet.

Indeph 06-16-06 03:18 AM

To me the arguments of science and religion are rediculous. That's like me saying "God lives inside me" and someone saying "no he doesnt, that's just inner peace and a sense of moral wellbeing stupid ass sheep".

Adam 06-16-06 03:18 AM

Lmfao @ believing in God.

Indeph 06-16-06 03:20 AM

Rofl @ existing and not believing in god. That's mad oxymoronic.

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:20 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
blay.

You got onto some fucked up miracle water talk when I simply stated, that they blatently try make money off of there "followers" when shouldnt religion be information received for free, you shouldnt give a taste of the so called "christian facts" then try make money when people feel they need that extra peice of information.

50 cent is a entertainment,entertainment is a money making undustry.

wow, i feel like im schooling a fucking pre school kid.

bro, time to be quiet.

lol, are you serious right now?

when your IQ level is below that of somebody else's, dont try to throw in little anecdotes to "son" them... YOU completely missed my point (as i assumed you would)... what i was saying is that what you see on TV is NOT a good represention of how ANYTHING is in real life, and you shouldnt say "i hate Christians preachers" because of what you see on TV just like you shouldnt say "i hate hip-hop" because of what you see on MTV... all Christian "preachers" are not like the .01% that you are talking about in this thread, so you stating that as a reason to hate "christian preachers" in general (as you implied) is irrelevant...

Adam 06-16-06 03:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indeph
Rofl @ existing and not believing in god. That's mad oxymoronic.


God create himself too?

Indeph 06-16-06 03:25 AM

The image of god is completly retarded thats all. That chicken-egg question doesn't just apply to God. Even if God didnt exist we wouldnt know how the world began. Does that mean we don't exist either?

Adam 06-16-06 03:29 AM

I never said we didn't exist. You said I was foolish for existing and not believing that God exists.

Believe what you want man, but you're just believing what they want you to. It worked at first, but just like anything, when the masses grow and realize they're being fed lies, they rebel. Why do you think all that shit is going down hill...?

..People have finally opened up their eyes.

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:31 AM

^ there have always been atheists... lol, this is nothing new

La Cosa Nostra 06-16-06 03:33 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indeph
Scientests don't know EVERYTHING. There are plenty of things going on in the world that we don't know of. Real knowledge is knowing you know nothing at all. All that shit about God creating the world and jesus being the messiah, is just as liable as a little orb exploded for no reason and created everything.

Yeah..

You would say that if you had absolutly no idea about science...

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:35 AM

^ has his PhD in "Everything" from the University of Australia...

Adam 06-16-06 03:37 AM

^ You're neither funny nor intelligent, and the only person that you're amusing is yourself. Go get educated or do something worth while.

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:39 AM

^ are you FUCKING serious? lol, "go get educated"... wow, you said that to the wrong person... ask about me. im more educated and getting more educated than anybody else on RV except for maybe G-Deuce and a few others... you'll be painting my house one day, or mowing my lawn if your're lucky...

La Cosa Nostra 06-16-06 03:39 AM

Heres the thing lads...

Science is working on understanding everything from a compleatly logical standpoint where we test and observe effects pooling data that has been compleatly proven.

Religion is some guy saying "hey, believe this or your going to hell" (co-incidently, nobody knows if hell is real or not either)

Saying religion is a viable explenation just because science hasnt figured it out yet is such an unstable pathetically simpleton theory that will never have any clout with people who actually think logically.


Thats not being a know it all.. Thats just being realistic 'blay'..

Blay'all 06-16-06 03:41 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Heres the thing lads...

Science is working on understanding everything from a compleatly logical standpoint where we test and observe effects pooling data that has been compleatly proven.

Religion is some guy saying "hey, believe this or your going to hell" (co-incidently, nobody knows if hell is real or not either)

Saying religion is a viable explenation just because science hasnt figured it out yet is such an unstable pathetically simpleton theory that will never have any clout with people who actually think logically.


Thats not being a know it all.. Thats just being realistic 'blay'..

yeah, and i believe in science and religion... nobody said science was WRONG, Deph just said scientists dont know everything... and you're missing the point of religion... my faith isnt based on any rules... its FAITH

La Cosa Nostra 06-16-06 03:43 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLAYBOY
yeah, and i believe in science and religion... nobody said science was WRONG, Deph just said scientists dont know everything... and you're missing the point of religion... my faith isnt based on any rules... its FAITH

Faith is just saying I believe things nobody can prove because I'm told to.


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