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SerB 07-03-06 09:36 PM

Can america take over the whole world?
 
I know they wouldn't do that.

But i'm saying. could they.

like if they just attacked countries with there armies. think about it.


they would first go to the stronger countries, while that country isn't even ready they just nuke them.

and yeh, you see my point.

you think america got enuff power to do it?

sorta like how germany was doing it.

Young Drama 07-03-06 09:39 PM

no..............................................

villagepimp 07-03-06 09:39 PM

America would rape you all in your sleep.

K.ontroverz.Y 07-03-06 09:43 PM

N.O!. korea could blow us up all in the push of a button

SerB 07-03-06 09:45 PM

^ So could america.

Korea wouldn't execpt it happening.

Crazy Hades 07-03-06 09:46 PM

None of you know anything about war and nuclear tactics, so like, shut the fuck up.

Young Drama 07-03-06 09:48 PM

^dats on da hood cuhz......................

K.ontroverz.Y 07-03-06 09:49 PM

no america doesnt have a bomb as big as korea. and your saying so the americans do to. so therefore the koreans could do the same thing therefore. either country could take over eachother. but koreas nuke is bigger. the americans were trying to come with an agreement so they disarm the bomb. and they said FUCK YOU

villagepimp 07-03-06 09:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Hades
None of you know anything about war and nuclear tactics, so like, shut the fuck up.

I know everything about everything, since I am Jesus.

you are just a bitch.

don't make me strike u down with lightning hoe bag.

so like, shut the fuck up.

Crazy Hades 07-03-06 09:57 PM

Quote:
no america doesnt have a bomb as big as korea. and your saying so the americans do to. so therefore the koreans could do the same thing therefore. either country could take over eachother. but koreas nuke is bigger. the americans were trying to come with an agreement so they disarm the bomb. and they said FUCK YOU


Yeah, this thread is pretty hopeless...

Young Drama 07-03-06 09:59 PM

fuck you cuhz.............................

Sean Gunner 07-03-06 10:07 PM

Ya, let's send thousands of pounds of nuclear radiation into the atmosphere so that it can travel across the oceans and contaminate all of our water supply and create a nuclear winter by blocking out the sun.

That'd be intelligent.

Crazy Hades 07-03-06 10:09 PM

America has a little under 10,000 nukes...which does a bit more than N. Korea's 'big one' or whatever Kontro was talking about. America also have nuclear missiles that split into ten separate nukes, making it incredibly difficult to be targetted by nuclear defenses. Which Korea is lacking in. There are several reasons why it would be an incredibly stupid idea to cross Korea --- mainly, it's allies. Russia, for example, is not exactly lacking in the nuclear department. Israel is thought to have 400. Many, many countries have nukes...no one is going to attempt world domination alone anytime soon.

Sean Gunner 07-03-06 10:11 PM

We have a laser pointer in space though.

La Cosa Nostra 07-03-06 11:11 PM

To put it simply...

No.

Your government, while it is one of the most powerful in the world... Only really fucks around with smaller poverty infested countries that it can dominate without facing large scale war.

When it comes to attacking the rest of the world.. America just wouldnt risk it........

Keith Moon 07-03-06 11:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serbness
I know they wouldn't do that.

But i'm saying. could they.

like if they just attacked countries with there armies. think about it.


they would first go to the stronger countries, while that country isn't even ready they just nuke them.

and yeh, you see my point.

you think america got enuff power to do it?

sorta like how germany was doing it.

nope
if we nuked countries we wouldnt have the supplies we need and they have.
Hence we would basically strangle ourselves from the inside out.

Keith Moon 07-03-06 11:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
no america doesnt have a bomb as big as korea. and your saying so the americans do to. so therefore the koreans could do the same thing therefore. either country could take over eachother. but koreas nuke is bigger. the americans were trying to come with an agreement so they disarm the bomb. and they said FUCK YOU

LMAO
wow...
First of All Korea doesnt even have nukes..theyre still testing...
and our technology>theirs

the only reason were scared of north Korea is bcause if they acually had a nuke...they would be crazy enough to threaten South Korea with it...

Hard-Cor 07-03-06 11:50 PM

i read the first post and just realized how retared this is they have the U.N and they can stop that shit and get every other coutry against them. and the fact is if they did do that when over seas to take out the othe power houses it there all the neiboring coutrys to who could bring there armys in to take make them bring there forces home. the USA would be overwhelmed way to quickly no matter how big there army is

Kirk 07-04-06 12:40 AM

So how many people think there isn't a nuke pointed at America already?

TeamOne 07-04-06 12:57 AM

No.... and i dunno if anyone brought up this reason... but to put it simply.. Nukes would destroy the entire world while america was attempting this... my belief, along with many, is that after the first nuke is actually used to attack another country... the world will basically be destroyed.... after the first nuke is used wat people can hope for AT BEST is that ONLY the 2 countries involved in the first attack will become entirely wiped out... unless ofcourse, the ones being attacked is a country that has no nukes... ok, done.

SerB 07-04-06 02:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
no america doesnt have a bomb as big as korea. and your saying so the americans do to. so therefore the koreans could do the same thing therefore. either country could take over eachother. but koreas nuke is bigger. the americans were trying to come with an agreement so they disarm the bomb. and they said FUCK YOU


wtf? you at like you've seen the nuc's.

show me some links to where you got this.

SerB 07-04-06 02:31 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamOne
No.... and i dunno if anyone brought up this reason... but to put it simply.. Nukes would destroy the entire world while america was attempting this... my belief, along with many, is that after the first nuke is actually used to attack another country... the world will basically be destroyed.... after the first nuke is used wat people can hope for AT BEST is that ONLY the 2 countries involved in the first attack will become entirely wiped out... unless ofcourse, the ones being attacked is a country that has no nukes... ok, done.



what are you talking about.


okay what you guys need to know is that Nuke are not that strong as you all think.

its a lil more stronger than a atomic.

yeh its strong, but not strong enuff to just split the earth in half nor to kill a whole country.

TeamOne 07-04-06 02:35 AM

^^^ actually........... yea, they could easily wipe out a whole population, which is EXACTLY why no one has used one yet... because they know that the reprucussion of attacking someone with a nuke will lead to ultimately the destruction of both countries and probably their allies...... Nukes are basically used now as a "dont fuck with us" defense for the major powers....

SerB 07-04-06 02:45 AM

what are you getting at? i dont understand what you saying.


are you saying that if a country nukes that everyone with nukes are gonna attack back?

TeamOne 07-04-06 02:49 AM

One Nuke.... or H-Bomb to be specific can wipe out a whole city..... and the US has made over 70,000 nukes... do the math.... i mean, u wipe out five major cities of a country, and they are basically done... but the thing is, while we try to nuke some country, they could just as easily nuke us and take out New York, Chicago, LA, Miami, and DC in a day, with FIVE bombs (although with those 5 cities it would have to be the countries 5 most powerful bombs)..... the weakest, least powerful nuke is still more powerful than any other bomb or explossive to date... i mean, u ppl thought that the World Trade was bad.... the world could experience could experience something exponentially worse than that with one bomb.... and it took TWO planes during 9/11... were talkin about weapons that would kill more than both hiroshima and nagasaki combined.... (of course atomic bombs are a form of nuclear weapons, but they are not the stronger type of nuke... and by now the A-bomb has also advanced so much more)

wat ur also not rememberin wen u say that Nuclear weapons wouldnt completely devastate or destroy a whole country is the aftermath it will cause.... like with the A-Bomb in nagasaki and the many ppl who survived the explosion but died of cancer and had children who were deformed and etc...... all that will happen ten-fold now if nukes were just bein thrown around

hence the detterence that is occuring..... like i sed, basically nukes are being used to say "dont fuck with us, because nobody will win if u attack"

TeamOne 07-04-06 02:55 AM

no, im sayin in the process of taking over the "whole world" we will have to run into a country with nukes..... we will have to nuke them to have any chance of gaining their land.... in that process, we will also be nuked... and will prolly start to get attacked by other countries that are their allies... also, the UN (unless they are bein theyre usual pussy self) will step in and allow any country part of the un to attack the US since we will just be goin after the whole world anyways (and knowin our politicians and diplomats) we will have no good reason for attacking alot of these countries that will be sactioned by the UN......

so, ultimately, i am saying that if we start nuking countries while taking over the world, we will be getting nuked by probably every other country with nukes, just not in the way u think i meant

SerB 07-04-06 03:13 AM

Dude.

the earthquake that happened in san fran was 26atomics going off at once
which is like 14 nukes.


what do you mean bigger nukes and smaller ones? they make one type of nukes. these aint shoes. they dont come in size.

a Nuke would get shot down before it hit the city, americans counter is amazing.

and where do you get this 70,000 nukes. they got like 24. I'm postive that they dont have more than the 3 digits.

SerB 07-04-06 03:18 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamOne
no, im sayin in the process of taking over the "whole world" we will have to run into a country with nukes..... we will have to nuke them to have any chance of gaining their land.... in that process, we will also be nuked... and will prolly start to get attacked by other countries that are their allies... also, the UN (unless they are bein theyre usual pussy self) will step in and allow any country part of the un to attack the US since we will just be goin after the whole world anyways (and knowin our politicians and diplomats) we will have no good reason for attacking alot of these countries that will be sactioned by the UN......

so, ultimately, i am saying that if we start nuking countries while taking over the world, we will be getting nuked by probably every other country with nukes, just not in the way u think i meant


what the fuck are you talking about.

walk with nukes?

the radar shoes the planes from miles and miles away. thats why i said america has the upper hand. the counter they have is way better than any country.

allie? this isn't a skool fight, its not a phone call back up. it would take weeks for a country to come to what to do.

if they feel that Usa and Korea are going to war, and if Korea was on there side. they'd prolly wouldn't do nothing. just cuz america is the upper hand. and helping there allie wud get them killed.

TeamOne 07-04-06 03:22 AM

*clears throat*

there are, i believe nuclear fission nukes and nuclear fusion nukes..... (although i cant remember which one hydrogen bombs fall under and which group A-Bombs fall under.... but i do know they are not in the same group and that Hydrogen bombs are alot more powerful)

now, they have made 70,000........ this is fact, look it up urself.... but u are right, we dont actually HAVE 70000 at the present moment..... but its more like 10,000...

and some have different strength of yield... this is also true, look it up.... i dont believe i said there werer different sizes, but there ARE ones that are more powerful than others....

also, dont be so positive that america would shoot down all the nukes, and if they did... as i sed before, the aftermath of the blast in the air which would fall onto America anyways, would most likely still cause the widespread cancer and deformation of people, etc etc like in Japan.... and we let 2 planes hit the world trade centers and another hit the pentagon.... u dont think that a country could land a nuke in America? yes, i admit our counter is good, but to think that we would just deflect every bomb away like nothin is crazy....

TeamOne 07-04-06 03:29 AM

why did u say "walk with nukes?"

and LMAO at u makin it seem like Allies are some primitive "school fight" thing.... i wont even deal with that... the two biggest wars this world has seen is in LARGE part because of alliances....... why do u think America DOESNT try to take over the world????? because its not like we would be able to do it ONE country at a time.. EVERY country has alliances, and it is for the purpose of both a defense (meaning that a country will not even start a war with them because they know if they do they will also have to be fighting another country or other countries) and also as a form of military help (so if the country is crazy enought or willing to take that risk, u will have another country to help u out) .... not to mention the benefits of trade and such with ur allies

TeamOne 07-04-06 03:32 AM

and it would Def. NOT take weeks for another country to make a move, lmao...... its not like its gonna take a week to send a plane off to drop a bomb, or to send one off by a button......

and btw, the US army is not as strong as u think it is..... even if there were no nukes there would be no way we could take over the whole world.... shit, even the israeli army would give us trouble

TeamOne 07-04-06 03:35 AM

GOD, why wont someone like APexx or another person on this site who knows wat they are talkin about PLEASE come in here to tell Serbness he is wrong..... maybe if another person says it he might stop arguin

Terumoto 07-04-06 03:37 AM

Legit? No.

With surprise nuclear attacks that destroy the political centres of every country? Probably.

Feeble Minded 07-04-06 03:40 AM

Let me start off by summing up the average intelligence level in this thread: LMAO

1. you can't nuke a country when they "aren't ready." Every major power in the world has radar and other military systems that will pick up a nuclear missile. If the US sends a nuke at China right now, China would send one back long before ours hit them. People in this thread claiming you could "surprise attack" other countries with nuclear weapons is laughable.

2. The world is a lot different today than it was pre-WWII. As far as warfare, this is due to advancements such as but not limited to Nuclear Weapons. A safer system of treaties has been established due to the failures that led up to WWI and WWII. Also, the US is no longer the world's undisputed superpower. Other countries are capable of facing the US in "non-nuclear" warfare. But lets not kid ourselves, any wars between major powers today have a high likelihood of becoming nuclear. And the U.S. is far from the only country with nuclear weapons.

3. To the dude speculating the strength of the U.S. army: The US army is much stronger than you are making it out to be. However, it is not strong enough to take over some countries, because taking over a country is not as simple as who has better weapons. There are many factors: how will troops arrive in that country? what factor will the air force play? who controls the water? Even more important than those things to a country's military stength are its economic abilities - can we manufacture the goods needed for warfare efficiently? can we outproduce the opposing power? There are a lot more factors than I just mentioned, but the U.S. is militarily strong when we aren't spread out. That doesn't mean we could conquer a country like China though. Nor could they conquer us.

Feeble Minded 07-04-06 03:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigChase
LMAO
wow...
First of All Korea doesnt even have nukes..theyre still testing...
and our technology>theirs

the only reason were scared of north Korea is bcause if they acually had a nuke...they would be crazy enough to threaten South Korea with it...

Don't speculate on that. There's no way of knowing whether or not they have nuclear weapons, and honestly, its more likely that they do than anything.

Chris Stylez 07-04-06 04:28 AM

Give me America's forces and i could take over the world.... But naw really America has about a 5% chance of taking over the entire world IMO. But that is a lot greater than any other country taking over the entire world. For one thing with the way the U.S. public is with war i dont even think that our population will be with it to even draw up plans to even take over the world. As soon as the US would even try to take it over the world. America will probely tear itself down before the other countries will have a chance to send their nukes. So basicly I think America couldnt really take over the world. Our country will most likely takes its self down and have its own problems much less having to deal with all the other countries that exist.

And I thought the U.S. did have 70,000 nukes just not armed. I thought only like 7,000 of our nukes were on standby and the rest of them had to have there cores inserted in or something like that.

Sean Gunner 07-04-06 10:39 AM

They already did if you think about it.

People rush here to live and become citizens of the country. So now we have minions, all the countries around the world wanted to be just like us, and we controlled them with our power and technology, and then they all start to fight back and advance themselves. Now, we have a rebellion against the US dynasty and thousands of countries becoming stronger everyday to the point where the US is scared to make a move against any of them.

Is the US gonna rule the world? Not anymore.

SerB 07-04-06 11:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feeble Minded
Let me start off by summing up the average intelligence level in this thread: LMAO

1. you can't nuke a country when they "aren't ready." Every major power in the world has radar and other military systems that will pick up a nuclear missile. If the US sends a nuke at China right now, China would send one back long before ours hit them. People in this thread claiming you could "surprise attack" other countries with nuclear weapons is laughable.

2. The world is a lot different today than it was pre-WWII. As far as warfare, this is due to advancements such as but not limited to Nuclear Weapons. A safer system of treaties has been established due to the failures that led up to WWI and WWII. Also, the US is no longer the world's undisputed superpower. Other countries are capable of facing the US in "non-nuclear" warfare. But lets not kid ourselves, any wars between major powers today have a high likelihood of becoming nuclear. And the U.S. is far from the only country with nuclear weapons.

3. To the dude speculating the strength of the U.S. army: The US army is much stronger than you are making it out to be. However, it is not strong enough to take over some countries, because taking over a country is not as simple as who has better weapons. There are many factors: how will troops arrive in that country? what factor will the air force play? who controls the water? Even more important than those things to a country's military stength are its economic abilities - can we manufacture the goods needed for warfare efficiently? can we outproduce the opposing power? There are a lot more factors than I just mentioned, but the U.S. is militarily strong when we aren't spread out. That doesn't mean we could conquer a country like China though. Nor could they conquer us.


This is what I pretty much said about the radar.

But I came to realize that Radar can be worked with over time. Like stealth jet planes and crap like that.

SerB 07-04-06 11:37 AM

see. i just read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-bomb


america doesn't have 10,000 bombs. they have the power to make that many. but they haven't made that many yet.

wow at russia, dam they could of fucked ppl so hard back then.




^ that is sick looking. i wouldn't even touch that,.

Crazy Hades 07-04-06 03:58 PM

You are...completely idiotic.

The wikipedia article says: U.S. and USSR/Russian nuclear weapons stockpiles, 1945-2005.

Not

'potential to make nuclear weapons'.

There are different yields of nuclear warheads. There are tactical and hundred megatons...nukes designed to destroy underground bunkers...multiple nuclear missiles within nuclear missiles...

They couldn't have done much because both sides didn't really know how many the other had. It was just a stalemate. Ever heard of the Cold War?

And how is TeamOne going to say 'we'd even have trouble with the Israeli army'? Almost every country would. Their airforce is unbelievably powerful; they shot down and won like ten times the number of airplanes than the Arabs did in a war. It was like

625 downed Arabs
62 Israelites

Probably less Israelites. No one wants to fuck with that country. They themselves have a noteworthy nuclear power.


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