God........................
 

Explain "if you dont you really need help."

^^Only a fool says in his heart, "there is no God."








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My stance on this is...

If you actually understand how narrow of a margin the chance is that humans do exist on this planet. You would be a fucking fool to not believe there is a god.

I dont like church, nor would I ever lower myself to actually attend one. But I believe compleatly in a god, just not in the traditional sense, to me, god could range from being a universal concience controlling everything in existance, to an extra-terrestrial species that planted the building blocks to evolve into the organisms we have here now.

God could be a concience of our galaxy which itself contains over 100 billion stars most of which contain their own solar systems as it spins and travels through space exceding 620 kilometers a second, or god could be the concience of a black hole that is causing the reletive movement of our galaxy from its center controlling our cycle.

But reguardless of what god may be, there absolutly positivly has to be one. Because if you had one chance for life spawning for every single particle in the entire universe, in the 15 billion years since the big bang, we STILL wouldnt have life on a straight up probability factor.

If our earth wasnt tilted in the correct way, we wouldnt have life... If the moon didnt exist, our earth would be spinning so fast a day would be 8 hours, and we wouldnt have life due to there being limited tides. If the big bang was slightly hotter, our universe would be comprised solely of helium and no life would spawn. I mean fuck, the list could go on and on...

You could ofcourse go off the anthropic philosophy where if the universe wasnt so perfectly adapt to posessing life, we wouldnt be here to observe its perfection at all.

But I think thats bullshit. Athiests are sad pricks with flawed logic. Consiquently, so are most religious people... But hey, contrary to popular belief, humanity is still an extremily primative race.. Our misconceptions and stupidity will slowly become ironed out through the comming centurys provided we dont kill ourselves off first.

Time will tell.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mtVAko7U...arch=Da%20Truth

yo Nos watch that

u say u dont know

everyone who say they dont belive watch that

Hmm...I Believe...I Found that out this summer....

I dont attend church though...not because i find it boring..i find alot of people there to be Extremely Hypocritical at times..(i even find myself being that sometimes) but i do believe..

but at one point i did consider myself an Athiest or an Agnostic so i know where they are comin from while my views arent the same anymore I dont find them to be nessacerily wrong in their views..just having a different opinion..


what ever happens to us, happens to us...

yeah but your either all in or all out.....thats how i think of it......

yo I'm pretty sure god wouldn't approve of your random posts in threads callin' people "bitch niggas" and shit like that.

Jesus Christ-- Or should I say, Yeshua Bin Yosef was a philosopher and some would say a mystic.

See this is where you get it wrong.. My views are exactly that of Newton in the 1600's when he said "christianity went wrong when in 300AD the crumbling roman empire proclaimed Jesus was a very aspect of the deity that created the universe".

Jesus was a man. A very intelligent educated man at that, but he was still a man.

This video is compleatly meaningless to me.. The majority of the images you see in that clip dont even look a fucking thing like jesus.

Really all your belief's just come down to the fact that you take ancient jewish text's 100% seriously. The same text's were written during a time period when humanity went off maps where hell was just below the ground and heaven was just above the earth, the same time we thought the world was flat, and stars were just a flat image overlayed ontop of our atmosphere.

This entity you choose to believe has been proved wrong countless times, changed its scriptures, kept people away from the truth, burnt people for not believing what they believe, killed for power, burnt all texts that didnt co-incide with their teachings and they continue to hold onto old antiquated ways of thinking with prejudice for all other schools of thought.

I have a lot of respect for Yeshua Bin Yosef, he was a very smart man. But there have been countless prophets over time that were just as smart and some probably even smarter...

The only difference being, Jesus got in with the right people at the right time and his deciples began a religion that idolises him as a god.

Your very bible says never worship idols and call them god. Do you really think Jesus (the man) would want you people to go round worshipping his statue and pictures and praying to him over god himself?

Your logic is helplessly flawed and you dont even realise it.

I actually pity you for not realising the evil bullshit proporganda your church perpecutates to grasp onto that last little bit of power comming into this new century.

Even gallileo was put on lifelong house arrest for saying the world is not flat, what really makes you think your backing the right team when they couldnt even get something as simple as that right....

i dont c a reason to b serious on da net, for instance my sig

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They who imagine truth in untruth, and see untruth in truth, never arrive at truth, but follow vain desires.



No prob.

I was also raised in a christian household.. Went to church and everything. I don't necessarily not believe in a spiritual side to life and a higher power of some kind, I just dont believe in the God outlined in christianity.

^^^well put *claps*. I personally believe most religions are almost entirely bullshit, and are almost all created to profit off the human beings innate fear of death and simply spread ignorance and false promises. I prefer to draw from different philosophies to create guidlines that I feel fit my life, rather then become a lemming to some outdated texts interpreted in a completely biased way in regard to someone elses beliefz.

I dont care about god. thats the way I see it.

Praying won't get you no where. Good and bad people die for no reason.




and also for the person who said what was stated in the bible is happening, wasn't the earth supposed to die or something along those lines in the bible?

The irony of this is that your gay.

It doesnt matter.

The bible says homosexuality is a sin... but it also says sex before marriage, lying, cheating, stealing, and having unpure thoughts about women are sins. And it says no sin is worse than another sin. Whether its murder or lying, the sin is just as bad.

So if Q isnt allowed to believe what he wants because of his sexuality, then every other christian should find a new religion.

What do you believe happens when people die? Christians say your "soul" goes to heaven or hell, atheists say you're just dead. However, you don't seem to be near either one of them, so I'm interested in what you have to say.

Nobody knows what happens after death..

Christians and athiests only take stabs in the dark..

I'm comfortable with not knowing man... What happens after death isnt a big part of my life because while I'm here, I'm only concearned with the life put infront of my eyes.

If he fails his college entry test or plays crap for a scout, that has nothing to do with what he believes... Just because you are christian, doesnt mean you will have a good/successful/easy life.

Then why were christians persecuted and painfully killed for a large part of history?

When it says you will be blessed, thats not what it means at all.

How do you do that, though? Like. . every once in a while I'll throw logic out of the window and think about what would happen if heaven and hell were actually real. Like, there's no doubt in my mind I'd be headed straight to hell and it's just like. . what the fuck. I don't see how anybody can be comfortable not knowing or not believing in something.

Because when you think of things like that, then you'll get so caught up in it it could become idiotic. And you can also realize the fear factor trying to be instilled into you so you can be a good individual, not by a natural kindness, but because you have to.

Mhm. You know Nos, even with that slim chance, there is always the possibility of a recycled universe and that would raise the possibility of life exponentially. Do I believe that? Meh. I don't know. But it's a possibility.

Well...I believe in something i dont believe in what the bible says,i tihnk most of thats bullshit.

But after death our bodys become one with the universe ever heard of the E=Mc2,everything in the universe is recycled...so we just become part of the earth or something else.We could be made up of many humans from long ago as when we are dead,if we get buryed our body rots.This means it becomes part of the ground.We grow food from the ground and eat it.

You get what im sayin??

I dont know what happens to our "soul" i dont even believe in a soul.But meh thats my opinion

You see,

as for the unbelievers there's nothing u can tell them to change their minds or thoughts about God..i trust Him,cos when He's ready to show he really is the Lord he knows what xactly to do..

he put breathe in u..besides ur parents banging..he's the owner of everything arround us..like its said in the bible..we came with nothing and so shall we leave..with nothing..unbelievers tell me what y'all bought when u popped outta ur mom?..

most times..even unconsciously y'all exclamate his name..like 'o my God!'...or 'Jesus!'..

dont call his name if u dont believe in Him..dont even blasphame cos u dont believe in him..

God is an understanding man..even when u sin and stuff he still forgives u..He takes us all to be his kids..no matta ur situation or sin he's always there for u..but the prob with peeps is that PATIENCE is a tough thing...his time is the best..if only y'all called upon him and gave him time..u wud see he really exists and he cares,loves you!

i think yes...the word is patience..God is not a magician..he plans ur life..and all u gatta do is tell him what u want and u will definitely get it..its just a matta of time...
can u meet some1 today and expect him/her to love u to the fullest at the spot?..(cant think of any other examples)..

anyways..

leave the unbelievers to God...he created them..brought them to life..and he knows his plans for them..i.e when to proove to them that he really Is Lord!



like they say Experience is the best teacher so time will tell like Nos said..


and remember..When Jesus says Yes Nobody..absolutely NOBODY can say NO!!




Preach!

Go learn about E=MC2

THey do..lmao stfu and get your facts right

...Yeah, thanks for the sermon telling people who are not christian they are idiotic blasphemers. 'Oh my God' and 'Jesus' are pretty much subconsciously imprinted into our brains because everyone else does it and it influences us, even if we aren't christian. Same way we say 'bless you'. I can no more stop saying God's name than I could control the rate my fingernails grow...

Now please stop preaching with a holier than thou attitude.

'I am enlightened, too bad you aren't, maybe you will be one day, when God chooses, but until then, looks like I'm in the clear.'

Blah.

E=mc2, energy and matter cannot be destroyed but manipulated into another, so matter can become energy. That energy then infuses with the universe or the Earth. Is that what you're getting at, UNF?

Wood rots.........

I believe in God and my Mums Church which is an Evangelist Church is the only one I'd go to. It follows the teachings of the Bible, not the corrupt teachings of ministeries and Archbishops who know nothing about The Lord. I didn't used to believe in God but since my Mum has turned to him she has been beating her Bi Polar illness which was previously destroying her life. I believe God has helped her through that and has answered my prayers many times and looked over people I've prayed for.

Ahahaahaha at the legos. That ruined it.

You can't just tell God what you want and eventually expect to get it after time.

This is what I dont understand about most christians. They say all this stuff, but they dont even follow the philosophies of the man they worship.

Jesus said not to concern yourself with worldly things. If people make fun of you, you shouldnt care. You shouldnt care about what people think or what you are going to wear or your job or anything. Absolutely nothing in this world matters besides God. That is what we are told.

So what if I prayed for God to give me wisdom so I could ace my college entry exam? It's important to me, but do you think God really cares whats important to me? Like you said, we are his children. Often children are too young and naive to understand whats best for them. So why would he help me with it? If I do get into college, it means I am trying to get a decent paying job. If im trying to get a decent paying job it means I am concerned with money. The bible says money and posessions are nothing, and you shouldnt concern yourself with them.

Jesus says look at the birds in the sky. They dont have money, yet God feeds them. They dont have belongings, but God looks after them. In the same way you should not fret about worldly things, because are you not more important to God than a bird?

So many people have this wierd view of christianity. Where its OK to sin, its OK to do all this shit, christianity is just considered a little side thing in your life. Theres friends, social life, parties, school, work, house, home loans, and then religion is just a little side thing that you believe in and occasionally go to church on sundays so you dont feel guilty for all the sins youve been doing.

The meaning of the word sorry is that you truly regret what you've done, and realize that. It means you are going to do your best never to do it again. When you ask God for forgiveness, you have to be sorry and truly repent. Then you have to try and change your ways, and stop sinning. Thats wat Jesus taught. He taught people to be kind, to follow the commandments, he taught people to be good people. He was such a good man that he even said he will forgive you if you repent.

Why dont christians see that? I actually think its disgusting what christianity has become. People dont actually read and understand the bible, they just take peoples word for it. If you sin, it doesnt matter because God will forgive you anyway. You can sin all you want, as long as you say "oh yeah god forgive me kthnxbye im going to go sin again now."

I dont mean to disrespect anyone, especially you, vonny. This is just my opinion. Take it into consideration, but dont take it to heart.

...There is plenty of grey area, you just don't want to explore it because someone who is more educated on the matter is stepping up to your beliefs.