Since Mim closed the other thread...Tero
 

Without getting too hypothetical, let's use a symbolic child cuz I don't want to use Enygma's daughter as an example. Serb instigated this for no reason. So, that does make him wrong on that account. However, Serbness is someone's son, brotha, friend, cousin, etc...

Calling him all sorts of names in retaliation is doing the same thing you're pissed at him for doing...

Do you think Serb's mom would like to hear people call him a MORON, Idiot, DUmb, Stupid, etc?

No.

Now, Serb may need some decency. But, that still doesn't excuse the fact that everyone here is guilty of this shit in one way or the other.

I'm guilty. You're guilty. Enygma is guilty. We're all guilty.

<guilty .:(

You can't complain about me closing that thread, though. It was against the rules of the forum and completely uncalled for.

I'll admit we are all hyprocrits on this in some fashion.

But' Calling Serb, Idiotic, or a Moron. Wouldn't bring the same kind of anger from his mother that it would bring from Him telilng someone he would rape there daughter.

I think there is two big of a difference in the two insults here to judge it the way you say. But i do get what you mean in the fact that we are all guilty of this.

Shut the fuck up. You eliminated the line of decency with twisted Logic. Where's enygmas daughter? How old is she? That's a man's daughter and obviously he's gonna be extra touchy with her respect. I wouldnt want anyone having sex with my sister or daughter, but does that mean im not gonna have sex at all? Get the FUCK out of here.

Me Or Q.........

i never once called anyone's mom or kid or family member out... i deal with the individual i got a problem with... if a dude is acting like an asshole omma call him an asshole... plain and simple... it got nothing to do with his relatives who at most times don't even know RV exists... at least when you attack the individual you are in a sense giving them a chance to retaliate... My kids don't have the luxury to retaliate to kats like Serb... they don't even come to RV... i wouldn't let them if they wanted too... but that shyt was wrong... if you had kids you'd understand more

Talking to mimesis. He really gets on my nerves.

I understand that. But, if you think about it, what Enygma and everyone is saying to Serb is WORSE than what he did because Enygma's daughter can't hear/read what Serb said. Only Enygma can see it. That's his child so he feels that way understandably. If Serb has low self esteem, calling him every name in the book isn't going to teach him why you don't instigate what he did against Enygma. It's a cycle of bull shit that has to stop with someone.

At the end of the day, they're just words...So, is there a better way to teach Serb a "lesson"? Probably

and yet, you'll be having sex with SOMEONE'S sister and daughter.

And, I understand why Enygma is touchy...That still doesn't justify everyone attacking Serb like that, esp. when everyone in a twist of IRONY is doing the same thing.

Words are the foundation for ideas and force that gives us the ability to comprehend the world. If I hit a man in the arm the pain will fade away, if I say something to him he'll think about it for the rest of his life untill he finds a way to deal with it. Dont belittle the power of a word.

I Completely see where this is coming from, I just feel strongly about it for some reason, I think in a way its worse for Enyg, because it is his daughter, and the fact that she cant see or read it makes him feel compelled to retaliate for someone he loves dearly. But then I see in a way how it's way bad for serb also. Damn..lol contradicting views are a bitch.

Let me ask you this... Do you think serbs mom would like to hear her son saying what he said?

What the fuck are you talking about? I CLOSED A THREAD. My only post in there was, "If you (talking to Serbness) make another thread like this I'll have you permantently banned." I don't even know what you're referring to because I haven't done anything. Serbness was talking about raping Enygma's daughter and then I closed the thread because that's fucking bullshit. I didn't eliminate any "line of decency," so YOU get the fuck out of here.

Obviously I would be. I have a level of respect for everybody untill I see a reason for disrespect. MOst people would fight for their fam wether they're wrong or right. I would. What makes it even worse is enygmas daughter DID NOTHING. If someone even fuckin talked about my GIRLFRIEND i would kill them, are you seriously even questioning the reasoning for what makes disrespecting serb better than him takling about raping his daughter. You kidding me?

Rofl I wasnt talking about you wtf it was a joke. WHY would I aim that comment at you? Think about it.......... oh yeaAAH

NO. She wouldn't. That's why I said Serb needs a lesson in decency. However, saying he's a "piece of shit" and "horrible" isn't exactly how to achieve that goal.

Now, what Ysdat said about Enygma's daughter was wrong as well. However, Enygma telling him "I'll kill you" is flat out inappropriate. If Ysdat is under 18, how would his parents feel about a grown man threatening to KILL their child? Maybe Ysdat needs to be slapped. Maybe he needs a lesson in manners. Who knows...All I know is that we're placing judgment from a perspective that's tainted because we all do, and have done the same damn thing.

i bet you a nukka wouldn't tell me they'd rape my daughter if i had access to putting my hands on them... that's the REAL difference... if he was anywhere near the proximity of a dude that loved his family... especially a child that he takes care of daily.... i guarantee that he'd get his ass whooped on, no questions asked... now you tell me what's worse... that ass whooping or the namecalling taht you keep saying isn't gonna teach him a lesson...

name calling might not work... but a bullet in the ass has changed a whole lot of people!

^^So, your logic is this:


It's okay to kick a man when he's standing, but not when he's down?


better yet...It's better to stab a man than shoot him?

^^Either way, someone's being hurt...

Yea...Serb needed to be corrected...But, calling him every name in the book because he said something dumb doesn't rectify the situation.

Remember...SERB can read what's being said to him, Enygma's daughter can't...And, again, I ask, what is a parent gonna do when kids tease their child at school?

Come on now...the cycle has to stop somewhere

It's not okay for him to say he'd rape someone, but, it's okay for you to say you'd KILL someone?

^^Where's the logic in that?

If someone randomly said they'd rape your seed, the first thing I'd do is

1) Ensure there was no chance it could actually happen
2) Question the person's mental sanity

**Defending your family is paramount...Absolutely...But, obviously Ysdat and Serb said what they said as a horrible joke...

WORDS...but, then retaliating against them by threatening to KILL THEM, and calling them pieces of shit isn't resolving anything, IMO.

I think the real question is, "Why would someone, in their right mind, threaten to rape your child?"

Again, Everyone has their personal standards. Everyone can't hold the same morality. And not everyone agrees. There's another part which you're ignoring. It's how the person disrespected feels about it. You need an emotional connection. If someone forced my daughter to smoke than I'd be mad at them, if she chose to smoke than I'd be mad at both of them. In this situation he threatened to RAPE his daughter. There;s no philosophy that can apply to all people. Although your comment would be 100% truthful if everyone saw everyone the same and u didnt love or hate anybody. Justo ne blank feeling.

sorry... but i perceive that as a threat and if ya threaten my family, especially my children, i'm whooping that ass and asking sanity questions later

I agree...

But, I'm well aware of the power of words...It's why we use them!

Like I said, no one here is faultless.

ain't nothin wrong with self defense


But, where's the self defense in calling Serb a piece of shit?

Yeah. I agree with you... Name calling doesnt do anything for anybody. I cant speak for anyone else, but all I said to him is wtf is your problem? He obviously has a problem when it comes to decency as you said.

A fault itself is based on the opinion of what you think a fault is.

wtf are you talking about against the rules?

where does it say that in the rules.

your just giving me bullshit beacause majority of the ppl where on one side, so you automatically just went with it without reading for puting thought.


go suck a dick.

Name calling does effect someone's actions. It sometimes'll shed a light on it that they probably didn't see. A positive reaction like "rofl" when he said that might make him feel good about it. A novice reaction saying nothing would just not affect him at all and he'll do it more. Calling him a name or saying "Wtf is wrong with you" could make him uneasy or maybe if he was sensitve make him apologize. =/ words= powerful

Fault being defined in this case as: saying SERB is wrong when we all do/did the same thing




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that's my point... i AIN"T TALKING... I"M WHOOPING THAT ASS!...lol... if you are in a reachable distance and you threaten my fam, i'm blacking out on you... you are no longer human or worthy of any kind of benefit of doubt... like i said... if you had kids you'd understand better... it's easy to say what you say standing on the outside... but the reality is most kats react first and analyze the shyt at a later time... and when there is children involved shyt is intensified... there is no love greater than the love for and of a child next to God and Jesus Christ

retaliating for the sake of hurting someone is never justified...All it does is perpetuate a cycle of animosity

And, again, we're all guilty of that.

Making him feel uneasy could be done with coming at him with LOGIC, without the character assassination.

And i only said Rape beacause it had to tie down to the acident earlier about the Iraq women getting rapped and what Ysdat said.

I was on Ysdat side beacause you guys are morons and jump on the badwagon like sheeps.



and you guys get the fuck outta here, you told me so many times "your mom is a whore" or what ever along those lines.

do i care? no , cuz none of you know my mom. its through the net, if you said that shit to my face in real life knowing my mom, then id take it differnet.


and engyma daughter is to ugly to rape.

with my good looks? she'd be rapeing me.

come on bruh...me not having kids is irrelevant to the convo we're having...I'm saying that disrespecting someone's family is just as wrong...

I was coming from a hypothetical perspective of that SERB is also someone's child...

And, I take serious issue with you saying someone "isn't human". There's no question you defend your life and your family's LIFE and well being at ALL COSTS. But, we're talking about words here man...And, I'm saying that retaliating against Serb with more harsh words is hypocritical if you're saying what he said is WRONG.

Name calling doesnt do anything good for anybody.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you all laugh and watch that show "yo momma"

well common, its dissing a mother. a family member. aren't you gonna cry?

Do you love your mother?

That talking it out shit won't stop someone from raping somebody. Morality can't be used as a weapon.

Yea I love my mother. what does that have to do with anything.



But like i said, that show is the exact same shit that is happening here. execpt you guys are sheeps here.

your gay fag boy

Q....thisis what you're sticking up for. Good job man :thumbup: