Kung Fu
 

Is awsome. I love practicing and sparring. Who practices some kind of self defense?

Yes. Martial arts are ill.

I do, and I know nos does also. I used to do a lot of weapons stuff, as well as taijutsu and capoeira before I moved to australia. But even in the city its hard to find a decent teacher that actually knows wtf hes talking about, so im just teaching myself atm... Hopefully that will change in the future. -_-

I guess I practive self defense whenever I go to an M16 range to qualify. I'm kinda practicing "other's" defense too......lol.

But for real, in the army we do combatives training. If you ever watch UFC, you might know what I'm talking about.....but they do it with more emphasis on strength, while we do it with more emphasis on technique. It's tight. We had a competition with teams and shit and my team won first place. I fought three people and all three times I got my person to tap out :cool:

I work out. thats enuff.


but on the real, my trainer is in one lvl below UFC. so he trains me like how he trains.


Matrial Arts can only go so far, basics will go far. the rest is freestyle using common sense.

Yeah man..

I'm doing weapons training at the moment......

I fuck cunts up.

Serbness: That is completely untrue.

Back in america I remember when I first started taijutsu, I had been doing it for a few weeks, but the shit that really got me motivated about it was I saw my teacher own the fuck out of some huge cunt. My teacher was a short asian man. What happened was this guy came along and he was huge.. I think he was about 19 or 20, and he was just coming along for one night to see how shit was. He was being arrogant and rude, and putting down taijutsu and my master and shit. Then teacher was like "OK. Well let us fight right now, first one knocked to the ground is the loser."

The guy, seeing as though he was muscly was confident he could knock down a small asian dude. The fight began, and niether one advanced for a while. The big guy finally made a move, it looked like he was trying to push teacher in the chest. My teacher grabbed one of the guys arms with one hand, leaned back to avoid the push, and blocked the punch the big guy threw after that with his free hand. Teacher gave him a knee to the stomach, then put his foot just above the guys belt, and threw him backwards with the help of his leg... Shit was insane. The guy wasnt hurt, but my teacher didnt even throw any punches or kicks... Just a little knee to the stomach while his abs were tensed. The guy lost and was pretty like... Pissed off and embarrassed. He left -_-.

Seeing that I was like whoa. Good technique owns power in most cases. But I guess power is enough, if all you want is to be ready for like random street fights.

jeet kun do moyfuckas :mad: i dont go by it but i know its gotta be dope cuz bruce lee made it nah mean :shoot:

i love martial arts though but im not paying to learn that shit in a stupid class with like 30 annoying kids i rather have some old ass wise guy who wont charge do a 1 on 1 teaching shit, like thats ever gonna happen -_-

Jeet kune do is ILL.

The trick is finding a GOOD school. Cos most of those places are just those like... Go there for a month, you are automatically a blackbelt if you pay the $29 blackbelt fee. Do some research on the master there, maybe ask him who his master was. Cos there heaps of cunts that just make it up as they go and dont actually know anything about what theyre trying to teach.

A true master uses no pre-defined style or form.

I mean.......I can tell you straight up, the bigger guy made some fairly obvious mistakes in his opening moves probably due to inexperience...

Martial arts teaches different moves to use in different circumstances, but in a real fight, your only going to ever actually use one or two moves. And a lot of it is based on things like reaction times and natural ability rather than theory and technique. And its almost always better to be unpredictable.

Technique only takes you so far before you need the actual smarts to improvise on what youve learnt to adapt to actual fighting situations.

So while serbness pretty obviously is being ignorant and has absolutly no idea what hes talking about... He is kind of right......In an in-direct sense.

Martial Arts Is ILL.

Period. Me personally? I don't practice it , much, i may mess around here and there..and mess with some weapons along the way..But i know this one asian kid around here (Chad), he's crazy..He kind of uses Caporeia (Or how you spell it) but does it in a different, more modernized style..i know that he used to study martial arts and now he does Breakdancing, so when he "practices" fighting, he pulls off that Martial Arts/Breakdancing Technique..It's Ill..

I'm bored.

Kung Fu get its dick ridden so hard.

But I've done judo, karate, boxing, kickboxing, and muaytai

I disagree with what you said about "true masters." If a true master had no style or form, he would not be a master. Martial arts masters often dabble in other styles in their lifetime, but stick to one style to master. Being a master doesnt mean having no pre-defined style or form. It means that they can flow freely and naturally from any kick, punch, throw or block and adapt to any situation. Utilizing the tools their art has to offer, they read their opponent and counter that movement with whatever movement they have mastered that would be effective in that situation. Being a master means you can pull off techniques at full efficiency autonomously.

If someone is a master of a style, it doesnt just mean they know all the techniques of that style flawlessly. It also has an inner aspect, their mind is just as disciplined as their body when it comes to fighting.

What you said is probably the case with martial arts students, but not every single person that practices martial arts.

It also depends on the style... For example modern day Karate is basically almost always taught as a competition art. Even though some moves in it may be effective in a fight situation, ultimately it would only give a slight advantage. A style like Bujinkan Taijutsu is designed to be an effective combat style. It focuses on attacking weak points of the body, working with gravity to ground your opponent, a lot of pressure point strikes, grabs, pins, and holds. It is designed to quickly render the opponent unable to attack. Its the same with styles like Muay Thai, that are designed to quickly fuck up opponents so they cant fight (im talking about the original muay thai, the kind that is used in thai boxing is very different).

Pre-defined styles and forms = predictability.

You can work your entire life to master a certain style, then get thrown in a position where you simply cant use jack shit of what youve learnt...

Adaptability is key bro... Thats shit that comes from natural ability and experience... Mastering technique can only get you so far...

Name one person that knows every movement of every style, or even three different styles.

I doubt you could predict the movements of a master of any style. Any true master of any style can read and predict the movements of his opponent. Whether that opponent is some street drunk, a boxer, or a student of a different style. Depending on the style, martial arts masters are also excellent at masking their intentions, and striking quickly. Do you really think a specialist in combat doesnt know that movements can be anticipated and then countered? That is one of the main faucets of ANY martial art. That is what gives any decently skilled martial artist an advantage over an untrained opponent.

I doubt anyone who has spent their life training in martial arts would get thrown into a position where their knowledge is useless that easily. And do you think such an expert would just automatically be helpless when one of the thousands of techniques he knows doesnt suit the situation? He has been fighting all his life... Do you think people like that cant adapt to situations like someone who WASNT trained in martial arts? Martial artists are still people with instincts, common sense, and as much natural ability as the next guy. I dont understand how you could see training in a style of martial arts and learning effective ways to disable your opponent as a disadvantage.

Yeah nah your right..

I think the point I was trying to make may have been overexadurated..

A lot of fighting styles construct moves to flow really well so based on someones style and skill level you can usually predict what sort of move their gonna make just cause you know what will roll on from the position their in... I know this cause I do it whenever I fight...

Dont get the wrong idea like I'm dissing martial arts.. I dont go out every week learning this shit cause I think its flawed. But theres not a regemented move for every situation that can be taught in a martial arts style.

If you wanna demonstration, when I head down to sydney.....Well have a good full contact spar...............

lmao. im up for that.

Ya, well I've dabbled in kick boxing and kung fu now. I want to try out Judo and maybe some tai chi. Karate doesn't sound too good to me, I don't know why, it just doesn't.

Tai Chi will help you with everything.

Core strength is the shit...

Karate aint gonna help you in a random street fight.

you need to have the killer instincit to do good in fights. that is essitinal.


Look at kimbo, he fucking destroys dude.






and by the way, Good Wrestling > Karate.

Just look at UFC, the top fighters like matt hughes aren't stand up, they are Wrestlers who get the guy on the ground and pound them.

^a lot of the guys in the ufc are fat, not FAT fat but nothing compared to someone like bruce lee, i honestly think bruce could fuck up any ufc guy hes way too fast and powerful if he was still alive i mean

rofl what are you talking about. Bruce is a actor kid.

you know how tall bruce lee is? he is a fucking midget.


Bruce lee is a skinny guy, UFC people are fucking pure muscle and the healthiest ppl at what they eat.




I never understood Bruce lee, what type of fighting does he do? Like have you actrually seen him fight in real life? or only in movies?

Dude... The reason people like bruce lee, jackie chan, tony jaa etc get into the movie business is because of their extraordinary fighting skills and fitness...

UFC and street fights, are complete opposites. UFC fights are organized battles, which combines wrestling, scrapping, and technique. Street fights are nothing more then brutality.

Also, you have no idea what you can do with Kung fu, Serb. I can dislocate your shoulder so badly, that you will never use it again. I can kill you, in 3 seconds. All of which takes time and is only supposed to be used in life/death situations, but the point is I can kill you if I felt that you were threatening my life. You learn 10x more then you think they do. They are faster, stronger, and their technique is flawless.

A green belt alone could kill anyone in a fight, I can only imagine what a blue/brown belt could do.

I can kill you too. who can't kill someone.

I'll punch your thoart. where will the kung fu be there?



and UFC fighters are not all like that, there are called freestyle fighters, that come from the streets into the ufc.









and Trumota, thats stupid, i always thought bruce lee was a real fighter who did some like bloodsport real life shit, not that i realize he only does movies is funny.

that shit is a movie, anyone can look flashy. but if bruce lee got one punch him from a UFC guy like Chuck Lidell and he'd fucking get knocked.




and u dont really have time to do that kung fu kill a man crap, cuz im telling you if u catch a fist clean to the face your out.

Dude, you just don't get it. Ok, Kung Fu moves, do not take 10 minutes to do. The things that will keep you dazed take are quicker then a punch, and I guaruntee you you will not hit a black belt Kung fu master. You are too predictable and slow. Kung fu teaches you technique, agility, quickness, etc... If you let a Kung fu student get a few moves in, you will never recover. Period. Too fast and they know what to do, where as you are trying to think of what to do.

Like I said before, trying to punch someone in the face is stupid, too easy to dodge, or better yet, grab their arm and twist it till it breaks.

You leave yourself open and any person who knows something bout fighting, will capitalize.

Don't do Judo, do Juijitsu, it's more aggresive, Judo is more defensive and Juijitsu is more aggresive. It's better for fighting.

And don't do tai chi, LOL, that has got to be THE most pussy martial arts ever, old people take tai chi, they teach you how to move around slowly in various homo positions and look like you can fight. On the real though they try to teach you to fight with motions of animals but it's just so homo and inefective and no, just.... no.

k, K?!

Serbness: Man, it isnt that easy to kill people. Good luck trying to land a punch to the throat of an opponent that is fighting you for real and not letting you hit him.

There are martial arts, such as ninjutsu, and bujinkan taijutsu, that focus on striking the body's weakest points in different ways. Moves that could put you to sleep, render you unable to fight, and also kill you. Also moves that teach you how to disarm people with weapons.. The only thing i can think of that could easily defeat a martial art like this is a gun.

btw I said that those movie cunts started out as fighters, but because their skill was so great they were able to get into showbusiness.



The idea behind tai chi is developing core strength. It means learning to use your muscles in the most effective way. If you got a tai chi master to stand perfectly still, and you tried to push him over you wouldnt be able to. And dont say "omg of course I would" because i've tried it, and its fucking impossible. Those cunts, they just dont move.

I asked my master how they do it, and he told me that their muscles know how to use force that isnt their own (gravity) very well. Its like everyone else is trying to stand still in a river, or swimming against a river, but they are swimming with the river. They have the power of the river behind their movement. They can choose where they want the power to go, just like going left and right in the river, but every one of their actions has the power of the river.

You aren't fucking serious, Serbness...Bruce Lee was one of the greatest martial artists known to man. He was skinny because he didn't build muscle, he worked on static isometrics and things to develop true quickness. Bruce Lee's style was the Way of the Intercepting Fist...which is extremely powerful. Get that? Way of the Intercepting Fist...aka you're not going to punch him in the throat.

Bruce Lee only does movies...you're stupid as fuck. Why do you ever get into arguments with people like Terumoto who are clearly superior to you in every way?

boxing.... i have thought about kickboxing and grappling...
just aint essential at this time...