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-TeamOne- 07-18-06 01:06 PM

Jay Z V. Lil Wayne
 
ok comparing them in every single point of hip hop rap whatever who has better lyrics, metaphors, ect. ect. overall whos better and NO im not talking about right now, cuz jay z is retired so you culdnt really tell im talkin about PERIOD and NOT by record sales because people bootleggin

shoot

N.Tavarez 07-18-06 01:12 PM

i'm digging lil wayne
buttttt
he's no jay
no one really measures up to what jays done for hip hop, pop culture, etc
except maybe Nas

-TeamOne- 07-18-06 01:13 PM

yea ok i understand that but i need you 2 break it down like in sections n shyt, this is for the real hip hop heads and hotshhhh i know you know alotta shyt about hip hop so break it down fa me

N.Tavarez 07-18-06 01:19 PM

damn okay

well wayne is dope lyrically
, he's consistent and commercially dope as well
but i dont think he'll earn that right until he drops 2 or 3 more solid
and successful albums, jayz dominated entire summers
i know he's retied now but, check allhiphop.com he's rumored to
be working on another album produced by timbaland
so that basically will be an extension of his long and consistent career
i view Lil Wayne as a successor to the likes of JayZ IF he can continue to show and prove
he's about 2 years away from that, IN MY OPINION
he is def one of the hottest in the game, and my fav from the south
but i gotta give Jay the props he deserved

N.Tavarez 07-18-06 01:22 PM

im looking for this interview where this philly rapper claims to have ghostwritten for wayne on his previous efforts i forgot his name

Sik Wit It 07-18-06 01:22 PM

Wtf... fuck Jay-Z.

Lil Wayne.

-TeamOne- 07-18-06 01:22 PM

yea i def agree when you say he gon b lik jay successor, im about to go 2 allhiphop and see what u talkin about

R. Lingo 07-18-06 01:24 PM

wayne is hot

but jay is hotter.

nas measures up to jay. because jay samples too much of biggie's shit.

eminem measures up to jay lyrically, and just because of the dynasty he started w/ dre.

dre is THE producer though.

Sik Wit It 07-18-06 01:27 PM

Jay aint hotter... =/

Past Tense 07-18-06 01:36 PM

Eminem eats Jay Z lyrically

N.Tavarez 07-18-06 01:41 PM

yeah when he's not bitching about not being able to see his daughter, or his hoeish wife, or some stupid topic matter
he has the ability to eat Jay
but jays has a more important status in hip hop
they are calling him the CEO of hip hop now
the respect he gets from his peers is unheard of
Em gets annoying after a while

-TeamOne- 07-18-06 01:49 PM

sik wit it smokin shit turds or somethin

Journal!st 07-18-06 01:57 PM

wayne aint hot he just in his mode right now
JAY-Z blah he is more experienced and more level minded on shit and Jays has done alot for hip hop so

Sik Wit It 07-18-06 02:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
sik wit it smokin shit turds or somethin



Eh? Nah... Jay-Z aint hotter.

Don't care what anyone else thinks, nigga aint good to me.

Journal!st 07-18-06 02:06 PM

i respect JAY for what he has accomplished but WAYNE is a rising star!

Nemenisis1 07-18-06 02:16 PM

Nah Wayne is nice but comparing him to Jay-Z is know competion
Nas is on Jay-Z level so ya'll saying Lil Wayne is nicer than Nas too
Now to Eminem I don't think that Jay-Z is better but I also don't think Eminem is better than Jay-Z

Logic The Goonie 07-18-06 02:32 PM

Next we should compare Young Jeezy to Biggie. :rolleyes:

jay 07-18-06 03:38 PM

^^ nah i tihnk d4l to tupac wud be a much better comparison

for real jay-z in the top 5 of practically ever hip-hop list made wayne aint even in the top 50, even forgettin bout lists to compare him 2 jay is just an insult 2 hip-hop

Phenom-in-all 07-18-06 04:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jay
^^ nah i tihnk d4l to tupac wud be a much better comparison

for real jay-z in the top 5 of practically ever hip-hop list made wayne aint even in the top 50, even forgettin bout lists to compare him 2 jay is just an insult 2 hip-hop


Bingo. Jus cause ya'll on Wayne's nuts, doesn't mean he's pushing one of the (if not THE) best rappers out of the way. Jay has almost 10 albums done, and every single one was hot/ground breaking/legendary. Wayne has HELLA improved with Carter and Carter II, but his first albums were garbo, and even Carter II doesn't compete with any Jay album. LMAO @ jeezy vs. Biggie, and d4l to 2pac.

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Past Tense 07-18-06 05:51 PM

are you serious ???

last time i checked Shady was running the rap shit and selling the most and has been selling the most records on his label since 2002 when 50 came out

La Cosa Nostra 07-18-06 07:54 PM

Both wack and over-rated........

But if I had to choose, jay z would come out on top...

chronix 07-18-06 09:36 PM

How's Jay wack? Say what you want about him bitting, but people BITE Jay-Z's lines all the time...Not only that but he has so many lines that are hot that are his own. But back to the topic....how the fuck would u compare Jay-Z to lil wayne? That's lil wayne's favorite rapper n' the rapper who's style he imitated to get his commercial success (he said it himself). C'mon now...

Anti-Social 07-18-06 09:41 PM

I mean weezy is ill, but he ain't fuckin wit jay by no means but jay loss alot of my respect when i heard that swagger jacker he bite more den he wrote in my eyes

chronix 07-18-06 09:47 PM

how long was swagger jacker? Subtract that from 2 classics, 6 albums, and add all the features jay's racker up...

M Eazy 07-18-06 10:54 PM

Basically, you can't compare Jay to Wayne. Wayne copies Jay for one thing. And Jay is Waynes favorite...so there's no comparing. Wayne is always one step behind jay, if not more.

J. Luth 07-18-06 11:12 PM

lmao @ people thinkin' Wayne hot. he wack as fuck

schema 07-19-06 12:29 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jay
^^ nah i tihnk d4l to tupac wud be a much better comparison

for real jay-z in the top 5 of practically ever hip-hop list made wayne aint even in the top 50, even forgettin bout lists to compare him 2 jay is just an insult 2 hip-hop


not in the top 50? bitch please...

dont hate on wayne because its the cool thing to do...i think wayne is in the top 5 living definitely...maybe not all time but hes definitely doing his thing and hes only gonna get better....

if you think lil wayne is wack you either

a.) have only heard him on the radio shit
b.) have no idea what youre talking about

or

c.)both

lil wayne is sick...not as good as jay or nas maybe but hes different...the shit jay gets praised for is his deep introspective shit...and nas is the same way...so shits different...

lil wayne is not really on that tip...he makes shit for the streets and for the clubs...but he still makes some dope ass shit...his wordplay is absolutely fucking ridiculous...you can go back sometimes and think about shit and it makes sense two entirely different ways...

his delivery is sick...his similies and metaphors...he doesnt really kill them like every line but where he puts them theyre dope as hell...

hes really fucking good listen to his shit before you come in this thread...

but as far as comparing him to jay and nas...nas's shit and the shit youre comparing him to from jay...its a different style of rap...its like comparing jazz and disco...which one is better? well that would depend on if you feel like listening to jazz or you feel like listening to disco...

the deep introspective thought provoking kinda shit...jay and nas are definitely better at that...

but the shit you would turn on at a party? the shit the girls all wanna dance to and the guys are all like "what the fuck did he just say? GOD DAAAAAMN!"...lil wayne kills that shit...he makes the best fucking party music out of anyone...

so if youre into underground more...jay z is better...
if youre more into party music...lil wayne is better...

but both of them are fucking ill...

Euthanize. 07-19-06 01:08 AM

how could you put Wayne against Jay when Jay is Weezys idol.

ha

schema 07-19-06 01:14 AM

just because you think a rapper is really good doesnt mean you cant be better than them...

not to say wayne is but just because he respects jay doesnt automatically mean he cant be as good as him...

every rapper has a favorite rapper...

-TeamOne- 07-19-06 09:15 AM

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Dickard. 07-19-06 11:05 AM

if you read his lyrics he's no where near jay z nas or eminem on a complexity level..

and if im not wrong he says please say tha baby or w/e in every song lol.

and eminem when not fucking around could deff. be the most complex rapper out there.

jay 07-19-06 12:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by schema
not in the top 50? bitch please...

dont hate on wayne because its the cool thing to do...i think wayne is in the top 5 living definitely...maybe not all time but hes definitely doing his thing and hes only gonna get better....

if you think lil wayne is wack you either

a.) have only heard him on the radio shit
b.) have no idea what youre talking about

or

c.)both

lil wayne is sick...not as good as jay or nas maybe but hes different...the shit jay gets praised for is his deep introspective shit...and nas is the same way...so shits different...

lil wayne is not really on that tip...he makes shit for the streets and for the clubs...but he still makes some dope ass shit...his wordplay is absolutely fucking ridiculous...you can go back sometimes and think about shit and it makes sense two entirely different ways...

his delivery is sick...his similies and metaphors...he doesnt really kill them like every line but where he puts them theyre dope as hell...

hes really fucking good listen to his shit before you come in this thread...

but as far as comparing him to jay and nas...nas's shit and the shit youre comparing him to from jay...its a different style of rap...its like comparing jazz and disco...which one is better? well that would depend on if you feel like listening to jazz or you feel like listening to disco...

the deep introspective thought provoking kinda shit...jay and nas are definitely better at that...

but the shit you would turn on at a party? the shit the girls all wanna dance to and the guys are all like "what the fuck did he just say? GOD DAAAAAMN!"...lil wayne kills that shit...he makes the best fucking party music out of anyone...

so if youre into underground more...jay z is better...
if youre more into party music...lil wayne is better...

but both of them are fucking ill...


lmfao please post up lyrics to 1 of his dope songs

but u prob cant cause there non existant

his lyrics are wack he doin exactly wat 50 doin but wit a dif flow and beat about it

his flow is the biggest piece of shit ive ever heard i dont understand how any1 can think that sounds good

oh and jay does the party track n the deep shit n he does it better than most especially better than lil wayne lol i ncant even believe im havin this conversation

Ebircs 07-19-06 01:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic.
Next we should compare Young Jeezy to Biggie. :rolleyes:


^^ sums it up.....

this is one of the dumbest threads EVER......


ya'll should put

"arron carter Vs Canibus" next time bro...

matter fact........

Blay'all 07-19-06 01:12 PM

Wayne said it all himself - "Best rapper alive, since the best rapper retired"

he doesnt try to be better than Jay, Jay's a fuckin legend, you cant compare... Wayne is still so young...

-TeamOne- 07-19-06 01:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebircs
^^ sums it up.....

this is one of the dumbest threads EVER......


ya'll should put

"arron carter Vs Canibus" next time bro...

matter fact........



listen lame ass, i already know you cant compare weezy to jay, i had an argument with a friend about it who thinks weezy is better than jay was in his prime, this was to prove him wrong from people who know real hip hop, so shut the fuck up

J. Luth 07-19-06 01:16 PM

^omg this hoe strikes again. wtf? DIE SLOW!!!

(to blay)^so young and still OH SO WACK!!


word to the fuckin' wordness to jay's post. I'd like to see lyrics to one of his "Dope" songs

omg, dude pisses me off so much. especially when they call his garbage dope. f'real

Blay'all 07-19-06 01:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPuLâ„¢
^omg this hoe strikes again. wtf? DIE SLOW!!!

(to blay)^so young and still OH SO WACK!!


word to the fuckin' wordness to jay's post. I'd like to see lyrics to one of his "Dope" songs

omg, dude pisses me off so much. especially when they call his garbage dope. f'real

was that first line to me too?

if so, suck a nut hoe-bitch :shoot:

but if not, word :)

Blay'all 07-19-06 01:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by schema
not in the top 50? bitch please...

dont hate on wayne because its the cool thing to do...i think wayne is in the top 5 living definitely...maybe not all time but hes definitely doing his thing and hes only gonna get better....

if you think lil wayne is wack you either

a.) have only heard him on the radio shit
b.) have no idea what youre talking about

or

c.)both

lil wayne is sick...not as good as jay or nas maybe but hes different...the shit jay gets praised for is his deep introspective shit...and nas is the same way...so shits different...

lil wayne is not really on that tip...he makes shit for the streets and for the clubs...but he still makes some dope ass shit...his wordplay is absolutely fucking ridiculous...you can go back sometimes and think about shit and it makes sense two entirely different ways...

his delivery is sick...his similies and metaphors...he doesnt really kill them like every line but where he puts them theyre dope as hell...

hes really fucking good listen to his shit before you come in this thread...

but as far as comparing him to jay and nas...nas's shit and the shit youre comparing him to from jay...its a different style of rap...its like comparing jazz and disco...which one is better? well that would depend on if you feel like listening to jazz or you feel like listening to disco...

the deep introspective thought provoking kinda shit...jay and nas are definitely better at that...

but the shit you would turn on at a party? the shit the girls all wanna dance to and the guys are all like "what the fuck did he just say? GOD DAAAAAMN!"...lil wayne kills that shit...he makes the best fucking party music out of anyone...

so if youre into underground more...jay z is better...
if youre more into party music...lil wayne is better...

but both of them are fucking ill...

^ wow, dude pretty much sums up life right here...

straight up.

J. Luth 07-19-06 01:21 PM

first line was to team one's wack ass for interuppting me AGAIN. others were to you :shoot:

-TeamOne- 07-19-06 01:25 PM

spuls a fuckin lame


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