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Terumoto 07-31-06 06:52 PM

Positive and negative, white and black etc are the same. Don't agree?
 
Then argue with me as to why they aren't.

*is bored*

∆ P E X X 07-31-06 07:06 PM

ok ok, I'll bite.


i feel that they exist in the same plane and originate from the same source but are different, just as you and i are from the same source and are different. Positive and negative are both subjective, and both phases within the same cycle though each exists as individual.

Terumoto 07-31-06 07:23 PM

K. You are on my team.

We need to wait for like nos or someone to come in and go "dude, are you a fucking idiot?"

btw, they are more same than they are different.

KOOL COL-B 07-31-06 07:25 PM

maFUCK a negative, throw ya P's up! :shoot: werd

∆ P E X X 07-31-06 07:31 PM

I can't imagine anyone in their right mind would challenge that.

besides, i thought we were debating it? lol. that's why I posted

Terumoto 07-31-06 08:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by KOOL COL-B
maFUCK a negative, throw ya P's up! :shoot: werd


Its stupid to want positive things. That is probably the biggest mistake we make as people, we always want good things. We always want more money, or this and that, or things will be better in the future.

Things will never be better in the future, I guarantee it. It might sound shit, but theres nothing at all you can do about it.

Compose 07-31-06 08:05 PM

i dont see color, im not a racist -colbert
as far as the positive shit i believe theres a negative to every positive, so there will be an equal amount in anybodys future, thats just what i think =/

La Cosa Nostra 08-01-06 04:40 AM

*argues in rhymes*



Aiight now first
Positive & negative's hardly meant to be seen as the same
Cmon man, your decently sane, so pleed with your brain
To realise, that you aint free to just claim, that shocking shit
Cause positive & negative are two ultimate opposites
Its obvious were all humans on this globe, I'll break you in
Black & white? Were the same species, homo sapien
But face it friend, we come from different backgrounds
You wack clown, not to mention skin color
Let me lay the smack down
Both races posess similaritys thats no joke
Except for the way our nose bones poke, out our skulls bro
Yo...
So while I agree to an extent were the same
Your still wrong for the most part
So just repent on your claims....


*hands you the mic*

Indeph 08-01-06 04:46 AM

Lmao I hate that that was actually a good rhyme. Still wrong though.

Terumoto 08-01-06 05:10 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
*argues in rhymes*



Aiight now first
Positive & negative's hardly meant to be seen as the same
Cmon man, your decently sane, so pleed with your brain
To realise, that you aint free to just claim, that shocking shit
Cause positive & negative are two ultimate opposites
Its obvious were all humans on this globe, I'll break you in
Black & white? Were the same species, homo sapien
But face it friend, we come from different backgrounds
You wack clown, not to mention skin color
Let me lay the smack down
Both races posess similaritys thats no joke
Except for the way our nose bones poke, out our skulls bro
Yo...
So while I agree to an extent were the same
Your still wrong for the most part
So just repent on your claims....


*hands you the mic*


Hmm..

To a simple mind white and black are different as it gets
Get ya head in check, and watch where im headin next
Them being opposites is a total crocka shit
Cause negative wouldnt exist if it werent for positive
They are different, yet they're exactly the same
two aspects of an entity in a singular frame
Consider the system of flower pollenation
Bees need flowers, they are a dependant combination
Take one away you have ecological displacement
The system loses the main component used to make it
Bees and flowers technically are ONE organism
Your head and your feet are thought of as different
BUT they are both part of your body, see what im sayin?
Sure, they are different, but in effect theyre the same
This concept can be applied to every aspect of life
wrong and right, dark and bright, black and white
day and night, if you want more examples, I got several
In my next argument ill take it down to molecular level
solid objects are only solid because of empty space
Ill wait for you before I detail, so present ya case.

Indeph 08-01-06 05:12 AM

^ Give me soundclick.

Magic5 08-01-06 05:14 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
i dont see color, im not a racist -colbert
as far as the positive shit i believe theres a negative to every positive, so there will be an equal amount in anybodys future, thats just what i think =/


Lmao. The Colbert Report is hilarious. He's all talking to the President of the NAACP. . "I don't see color. Can you please tell me if you're black?" Haha, dope. The Daily Show and The Colbert Report have one of the best 1-2 combos on tv. Shit's dope.

Indeph 08-01-06 05:15 AM

"You're white" "Well I'll take your word for it". Rofl

Magic5 08-01-06 05:22 AM

Lmfaofmoamofoafa. Word. I was also dieing at the show where he was asking people if they thought Bush was great. . or the greatest. Ahaha, dude is funny as hell.

La Cosa Nostra 08-01-06 09:57 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terumoto
Hmm..

To a simple mind white and black are different as it gets
Get ya head in check, and watch where im headin next
Them being opposites is a total crocka shit
Cause negative wouldnt exist if it werent for positive
They are different, yet they're exactly the same
two aspects of an entity in a singular frame
Consider the system of flower pollenation
Bees need flowers, they are a dependant combination
Take one away you have ecological displacement
The system loses the main component used to make it
Bees and flowers technically are ONE organism
Your head and your feet are thought of as different
BUT they are both part of your body, see what im sayin?
Sure, they are different, but in effect theyre the same
This concept can be applied to every aspect of life
wrong and right, dark and bright, black and white
day and night, if you want more examples, I got several
In my next argument ill take it down to molecular level
solid objects are only solid because of empty space
Ill wait for you before I detail, so present ya case.

Please.................................
Your faggot technicalitys, could never capture me
Man you see, I'll gradually expose those said analogies
As fallacies, cause actually.................you aint ahead of me
Your saying 2 objects are one, due to dependancy?
Present ya plee respectivly..........I'll leave you dead emcee
While ya entering molecular levels, my heads at ease
Cause, please.. My lyrical chisels about to start chipping
Line 5, you said it yourself there-- "they are different"
Listen.............I dont really need to go on but I will
Just to keep it honest and real, teru, what is the deal?
You can yap about, bees & flowers for freaking hours
But you lack speech with power needed for teaching cowards
How is..............positive & negative the same thing?
Lets ask answers.com, definitions that they bring
Like:
Positive is "Characterized by displaying certainty"
While negative definitions "Indicating opposition"
What I'm spitting, you got to agree, its obviously
Got to be seen, as being correct prominantly, B
So at the end of the day, you can defend what you say
By orchastrating a forumated approach on this page
But, you aint gonna change shit
You debate like a fake bitch
God knows mother fucker.......
The points you make are just baseless....

Logic The Goonie 08-01-06 03:31 PM

Nos is right. =/

.Ike. 08-01-06 03:44 PM

lmao @ this dope ass thread...

but yea..i think theres a difference...

the color of the skin

^...yea......living with a black man for like..years and years...callin him dad...makes u realize your one in the same.....

of course there are differencent...in features...but...in the end...were all human

Terumoto 08-02-06 12:47 AM

Since im wack, my point doesnt get across in rhymes. I'll do it normally lol.

OK, btw im talking colors here not race.

Black is white and white is black, if you take the word "is" to mean its original meaning which is "necessarily involves" or "implies." Now nos, you have been arguing that they are complete opposites and everything. So of course to you, black doesnt involve white, white doesnt involve black. They are base shades. Black is composed of 100% blackness, white is composed of 100% whiteness. So you should still be arguing against me... Dont pull some shit saying like "man I agree with you, though. I wasnt disagreeing with that but black isnt white man."

Explicitly black and white are different. Implicitly, they are one in the same. Outwardly, positives are different from negatives. Life is different from death, good is different from evil... But esoterically, they are one in the same. It's the concept of yang and yin.

If you have a black background you are tempted to put a white mark on it. If you have a white background you are tempted to put a black mark on it. Because if there were nothing to see but black, it would be like being blind. There would be no difference, nothing would matter. Likewise, if everything were white it would be the same. It is only by contrast that we know black is black and white is white. However, if there was a small black circle on a white background, or a small white circle on a black background... Which is positive and which is negative?

Is black negative because its dark? When I look at the black dot on a white background, it is the "thing." Does that mean because it is the focus its positive? The white suggests negative because it represents nothingness, negative space. The black is the something. You know? Both white and black can play the negative role. Then you think of white as light, and its playing the positive role. The black dot on the white background is the thing, so its playing a positive role. Black and white can both play positive and negative.

They are reversible, but you cant have one without the other. It isnt easy for people, the way weve been trained, to notice that they are ONE organism. Our attention has difficulty seeing both sides at once. Perfect example:



You can't see both together. It's one or the other.

What I was trying to say before about bees and flowers. Bees can't exist without flowers, flowers can't exist without bees or some insect equivalent. Doesnt that imply that the bee and the flower are one organism? Forget your conditioning. Look at your head and your feet. Completely different. But they belong to the same whole... It's a little more difficult to notice with bees and flowers because of how you were raised.

Nothingness is important, but we are brought up to disregard it. We dont know that nothingness is important. We know that something is something, but we don't know that nothing is something. It sounds paradoxical and contradictory, but it actually isnt.

Look at your table, supposing that empty space is negative and solid is positive. Inside that table is pulses and vibrations moving at a terrific speed. Inside it are cells, and molecules. If you enlarge a molecule to the size of your fist, the next one will be about 100 yards away. Whats in the molecules? Atoms. If you enlarge an atom to the size of your fist the next one will be somewhere maybe in the next city or state from where you are. Whats inside the atom? Protons, Electrons, Neutrons... Enlarge those to the size of your fist and theyre a long, long, long way away, scientists dont even know how far.

So in actual fact, in your solid table there is a shitload more space than there is anything solid. At that level of magnitude, solid dissapears into space, just as at this level of magnitude space dissapears into the solid.

You see what im getting at here? Your positive, solid table IS mostly negative space. But negative and positive cant exist without eachother. Try to imagine positive without negative. It's impossible.

Its not like I expect any of your minds to change, just a little food for thought.

Crazy Hades 08-02-06 02:42 AM

Because black absorbs heat and white doesn't.

Would black stop absorbing heat if white stopped reflecting it?

ooooh...

word.

Man I'm bored.


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