So its 9/11
 

yep 5 years later already
doesnt even feel like it though time goes by so fast
so i just wanna wish those effected by 9/11 well
and give heads a chance to discuss the day that changed our whole generation
do you guys feel like this country is any safer today than it was 5 years ago
and what do you think would change if it happened again today on the same scale?
im not gonna get into my thoughts about who was actually behind it, but i'd like to here peoples opinions on this.........
but i def send my thanks to those that made the ultimate sacrifice that day like the firefighters, law enforcements and anybody else who gave up their lives to help other
funny how time goes and i can still remember exactly what i was doing that day
but yeah just wanted to pay my respects and get other peps feeling about this

word man. I was still at school trying to skip class when I saw it on TV in the front office. I thought shit was some kind of movie or something...well anyways, 5 years later. Now Im in the Marine Corps and shit....been in almost 2 years I guess. Mu fuckas think you crazy when you join during a war and you just might be but...Id rather fight a war out there to keep it from coming down here where my family is then just sit there and twiddle my thumbs and feel useless the next time some shit like that happends.

5 years man...

wow...

it's gone mad quick...

mad respect for that son
i have too much of a vendetta against this administration to give myself to its causes, only because i dont see where fighting in Iraq ties into 9/11
but thats another issue

I get you. It aint for every one. I myself aint gone to Iraq yet, I'll probably go atleast ones before my 4 year contract is up though. But me...I dont see it as fighting for bush at all. No one Ive met in the Corps really likes that nigga even though he be giving us raises atleast 4 or 5 times a year(or so he use to). Its all apart of you putting together your thoughts on what you should do to better yourself or those around you. I chose this shit as my way to do it but I doubt it'll be the same for the next man. I got mad niggaz out there in Iraq right now, And I wish them kats the best and hope they come home on the real. My girls going out there too in bout a month.

Ya, it's been 5 years since the Bush Administration blew up the trade towers and framed Osoma for it.

ummm, damn Jack your really tempting me to discuss it.............
but i wont get conspiracy on them, i'll just agree with you and leave it alone

tavarez your probbly gonna end up having to explain it to these kids...so ya might as well drop knowedlge on these fools

nah i want other peoples opinions
before i get all crazy on these fools
Plus i just wanted to acknowledge that its 9-11
and alot of people lost their life that day
if people really think we're more prepared today for another attack

i was at 6th grade camp....if u dont know a place 6th graders for my school used ta go
ta learn how ta use compasses in the woods, find bones out of owl shit,
spraypaint our name and a bunch of leaves on plain blue T-shirts,
climb a climbing tower bout just as high as the world trade towers (slightly over exaggurating)....and shit like that..we spent a week there
but they didnt tell us bout 9/11 till the day after which was our day ta leave

i cant really say whether its any safer or not
cuz i just dont trust shit no more
i mean theres alot more tighter security on airplanes
but people always figure out a way ta get past that
and i sure as hell dont trust bush he causin more trouble
for this country than we're already in and shit
as far as we know the government coulda been in on it
theres alot of thearies and i heard alot of weird "coincidences" bout it
so i dunno i just hope we end the war, create peace,
and get a new president

and if it does happen again then its gonna keep happening again
cuz the word "again" seems to be inevitable

my thoughts and prayers are with all those affected......

but yeah, i wanna hear too Tavarez :P

well i dont claim to know the truth of what really happened
but i think its obvious that somebody knew what was going to happen that day
and SOMEBODY lied to us..........and somebodys tryna cover their ass now
and ask your self if without 9/11
would we be able to initiate preemptive wars with the like of Iraq, Afghanistan
and soon Iran

In every crime scene, the main question is, who stands the most to gain from the crime
do you really believe some cave dweller pulled off this attack cuz " he hated our freedoms"?

i'd rather not say more because i'd rather people look into it themselves and form their own opinions.......rather then do a like FOX news and try and tell you what to think
im just asking that you do THINK and think outside the box

okay, well then Jack, you provide us reasons to believe your claim.

this should be interesting.

You want to tell you if I think the USA is prepared for another attack? No, they aren't ready for another attack because they addressed 9/11 as a terrorist attack led by Al Qaeda, when in reality it was the Bush Administration that was in charge.

Why don't you stop being ignorant and depending on me. Are you incapable of researching something?

No but seriously, do you guys honestly think that the attacks on the world trade centers during 9/11 didn't work in favor of the Bush Administration?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...593973848835726

^^ since you're too lazy to find it yourself, here you go. And by the way, the evidence in their is only scratching the surface.

what is that the loose change video?
if not then google search loose change and watch part one and two
which like jack says just scratches the surface
then research for your self how many steel frame buildings have ever collapsed in history
from damage by fires
the answer is 3, all WTC buildings, all on 9/11
none have fallen since or before


have any of you guys seen the recent bin ladin video?
tell me if that mutherfucker looks like the bin laden shown in past videos
to me it look like a short stocky fake
bin laden is 6'3 and has a long skinny face
this fool is like 5'5 with a chubby ass face
get the fuck out of here with that bullshit
anybody with eyes can see everytime the elections roll around we get raised terror alert
and they always thwart some terrorist attack " in the nick of time"
they are always runnig bullshit stories on the news to distract us from Iraq and important things by throwing that jon bonet killer bullshit or something equally ridiculous
IF BUSH LIED ABOUT WMD IN IRAQ, WHAT ELSE IS HE LYING ABOUT?

^^ Good to know you're with me on this.

i dont kno why ya still on this 9/11 shit

when the man that put it 2gether

is going around the US makein appreances like hes some savior

worsd, you see this faggot on TV?
like he really cares....
fucking dumb bastard dont even tie his own shoes
just a puppet president for dick cheney and those fucks behind the scenes

Sweet, you guys aren't as uninformed as I thought.

Big upps to troop and tav.

also i tried to avoid this kinda talk cuz i was just tryna get other peoples views
but they done fucked up and asked me how i felt...........

man listen i smoke blunts to prison planet and scholars for 9/11 truth
then i go home and laugh at FOX news

Ha, indeed. They've been playing that "Documentary on Binladen (What made him do it?)" Video on the news, I saw the preview and spit out my juice and yelled "BULLSHIT!" And my mom got soooooooooo mad, because she had to clean it up

I didn't even realise till I saw a thread at some other board. I still remember driving home from school and hearing about it, damn.

Today, ppl be asking me bout 9/11 because they know I have my own theory and ideas concerning the why and the how of this event but to every question they asked, I didn't want to answer them today. The politics behind this don't do nothing for me today, right now I just wanna think about the ones that died (in NYC, Madrid, London, Indonesia but also in Afghanistan and Iraq). Just reflect on the scenes we have been shown the past 5 years.

Tomorrow, I'll talk politics. Just...not today...

Ya, I also want to think about the ones who died, and why your Presidant would kill them.

alright..i know that the 9/11 events could of been prevente and all but what i want to know is has anyone seen anyway how this has benefited the president...becuase i don't.....starting a war in iraq? iono...i think we would of went into iraq regardless

^ Well then, maybe you should read up on why this worked in favor of the Bush administration.

Shear, have you noticed anything about the oil prices? And uhm, do you see a link there? That's just one thing...

Just so you guys know, there are other buildings that have collapsed from eternal fires. Why don't you look at things like "9-11 conspiracy theory contradictions" and things as well? Some of them are loaded with fact, one of them that I read pointing out every single flaw in almost every word of the Loose Change video. Such as steel has 3/4ths of its strength reduced when a certain temperature burns it, the temperature being present at that time but not high enough to melt the steel.

But, in history, you learn the US never stops faking their way into wars...Fort Sumter, I think it was, was build in Confederate territory and sparked the Civil War. Lincoln ordered it. San Juan river, I believe; built a little base there on what Mexicans claimed was their territory of Texas, and we had a little rumble over that until America won all of Texas territory.

Good times.

ok name a steel frame buiding the size of the WTC that fell from fire in a few hours.........and loose change isnt the only say in the issue of 9/11theres so much more than that, thats just a video thats helping to make people consider the possibilty. but back to the buildings and fires many many witnesses heard explosions well after the fires had died down, coming from the lower levels, no where near the initial point of impact

even news anchors 1st thought when the towers went down was that it was similar to a controlled demolition
peep
http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/sep...ddemolition.htm
in their own words, supported by video evidence
everybodies 1st thought was a demolition not some bullshit pancake theory
if the structure sagged and the building collapsed floor by floor due to the fire, it wouldve took longer to fall, it took 10 seconds for the north tower to fall completely on its on blueprint, 10 seconds for a buiding with plus 100 floors to collapse......how can this be w/o it being a controlled demolition? tell me

also in photos you'll see massive steel beams,as each tower collapsed you'll see these beams ejected UPWARDS as the buildings fell, can a fire also cause these massive steel beams to go UP, while everything else fell on its self?
or is it more likely that explosives inside played a part?
and how would the you explain WTC 7 falling a few hours later with NO fires burning with in it?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_fire.htm
peep this if you still believe the fire theory

Fuck 9 11 if you ask me...and the reason y I say that is because 9 11 is just a phony act of patriotism. every year every one act all united,then tha very next day its back to tha way shit was b4 9 11...everybody going their own way,back to racism and wat not...9 11 is phony

cuz people are tired of the same ol same ol
same big promises by Bush to protect us
but yet he wont secure the borders
people can tell hes fulla shit so you dont see the same unitedness you saw 5 years ago
people just see war and more war, then you got Iran.......
if he cant get Iraq straightened out by now, if Israel cant topple Hizbollah weak ass
wtf makes them think they fucking with Iran, North Korea etc
our troops are stretched too thin
people are fed up, more protesting
and Bush continues to ignore us
somebody suck his dick so we can impeach him

I can't, because not many buildings the size of the WTC have been hit with airplanes. There probably are more or less some, and even the ones who did have internal fires but did not collapse still had different factors to be added.



Uhm...there are other things that explode than a building itself...transformers, generators, whatever. Well after the fires had died down? Why would they set off bombs after the fires have died down?



Yeah bro, because a lot of people know the difference between a demolition and a building collapsing because of a plane crashing into it. SIMILIAR to a demolition; yeah, it would be similiar to a demolition because in both times, two buildings explode and crumple to the ground. You're honestly going to tell me that these people, who are spiked full of adrenaline and fear after seeing a great National Landmark collapse, are going to be able to logically differentiate a building collapsing via airplane (which I somehow doubt they have seen before) and a demolition (which probably less than 4% have witnessed).



http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html



http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

That'll have all that good old factual information going against what you say, and probably all of your other points as well. So, you're telling me, the government with its nearly unlimited power within its own country, would not have the intelligence to be able not let all of their shit to contradict itself? I doubt someone spontaneously announced, "LET'S BOMB OUR SHIT", and then they did no calculations. If they had set up bombs, they probably would've known the fact that, uh, I don't know, the majority of America would see what happened?



http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

There you are.

just out of curiosity
you tell jack his video link isnt sufficient to back his opinion
and then you go and make your argument based on.......a video link?
but besides that i guess we'll agree to disagree
i cant change your mind you cant change mine
its all good though, at least we're discussing it openly

No, we won't agree to disagree. I didn't give him a video link, I gave him a website full of references from experts, articles citing that they were misquoted by the creator of the video, blueprints, size comparisons, and just brimming with explanations that are scientifically sound. There's kind of a difference between PROVEN FACT and speculation based off similies like "it sounded like a bomb" from people who would have absolutely no idea what the fuck a massive building hit by a plane would sound like.

That'll refute every point you have, I guarantee it. If not, there is an explanation.

im reading it as we speak

but i need an answer to this question
if theres nothing to hide, and the gov't did nothing wrong and its all explanable in that site
then why does our gov't refuse to let an independent investigation take place? why did they ship the steel from the WTC ruins to foreign countries shortly after before investigators could run tests on them? why the secrecy?
if they can dispel people like me who doubt the official story
why not just come out and do it and give the people what they want
they want the unedited film of the pentagon crash, w/o frames removed of the plane crashing into it, but instead they confiscated all public cameras that caught the footage. why?
if theres nothing to hide, why not just let the people satisfy their curiosity and take a look for themselves?