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La Cosa Nostra 09-26-06 08:15 AM

What is god?
 
Discuss..................

Mad Dog 09-26-06 08:36 AM

God is hypocritical

La Cosa Nostra 09-26-06 08:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
God is hypocritical

..............How so?

Mad Dog 09-26-06 09:10 AM

well put it this way jus a few examples...

1st. he's sposed to be all forgiving yet people go to hell...

2nd. still on the forgiving trip, noaks ark...wtf is up with god killing everything except 2 of each animal???...i mean God's portrayed as some being who doesn't condone violence, yet the bible claims he nearly wiped out all of earths population...

i unno if these are just mere flaws or what not...but i know that God is more like a salesman...in my opinion

Mad Dog 09-26-06 09:12 AM

oh and what about the story of jacob?

God killed all his family, friends, live stock, and made Jacob incredibly ill...JUST to prove to satan that he'd still worship him...YET it's always been claimed that God never needs to PROVE himself...just that you have faith in him and that you believe in him

Terumoto 09-26-06 09:29 AM

What is God?

God is my toenail clippings.

By the way, who's asking?

La Cosa Nostra 09-26-06 09:33 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
well put it this way jus a few examples...

1st. he's sposed to be all forgiving yet people go to hell...

2nd. still on the forgiving trip, noaks ark...wtf is up with god killing everything except 2 of each animal???...i mean God's portrayed as some being who doesn't condone violence, yet the bible claims he nearly wiped out all of earths population...

i unno if these are just mere flaws or what not...but i know that God is more like a salesman...in my opinion

1: Thats if you believe hell exists...

I believe logically hell is more like the souls of humans that cant relate to anyone else therefore they spend eternity lonley. Ask some of the worlds leading mediums and theyll be likly to tell you the same thing.

2: Noahs ark is just one recollection of that story... Great flood myths are prevelent in almost all world cultures, and the exact reasoning for them we can never be sure. Possibly it is simply a natural disaster like an asteroid plunging into the ocean creating really large tsunamis throughout a lot of the worlds continents.. Possibly there were darker evils existing in this world before this event and it was a devine act to bring on the new world. As a lot of cultures in more modern history seemed to have began directly after these floods cleared up. Whatever the case, realise the world was not the same place during those times so we cant be sure what actually happened and why. But noahs ark I believe is more on the myth side of the true story, most animals would have survived by living on higher land for a while..

A lot of cultures versions of the story are about them using canoos to get back to land... Dont take the glorified christian story too literally.. A lot of stories in the bible are mainly there to teach lessons more so than record history.

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog
oh and what about the story of jacob?

God killed all his family, friends, live stock, and made Jacob incredibly ill...JUST to prove to satan that he'd still worship him...YET it's always been claimed that God never needs to PROVE himself...just that you have faith in him and that you believe in him

I think you'll find his name was 'Jobe'.. And yeah, once again.. I believe this to be a fictional folk tale to teach people that no matter how hard life gets, never lose faith in god because everything happens for a reason.

La Cosa Nostra 09-26-06 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Terumoto
What is God?

God is my toenail clippings.

By the way, who's asking?

I'm asking.

And possibly god is your toenail clippings, possibly he isnt.

You made that statement a lot more definite than I would have thought was deemibly acceptable by someone who says he believes in nothing.

-TeamOne- 09-26-06 10:27 AM

People go to hell because they commit sins and DONT repent, some even dont get saved, and if they do repent they dont mean it with their hearts

La Cosa Nostra 09-26-06 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
People go to hell because they commit sins and DONT repent, some even dont get saved, and if they do repent they dont mean it with their hearts

....What is a sin?

Mad Dog 09-26-06 10:41 AM

jobe, jacob it's all the same

and i heard about the theory of global flooding to connect to what ya saying Nos but thing is i jus don't understand why God himself would go against a commandment that HE himself told Moses

Thou Shalt Not Kill.

If these people were tainted, they'd goto hell and i also find it hard to believe that in the whole of civilisation that only 2 people (Noah & his wife) were the only fully committed christians ya get me...

and what i originally meant by forgiveness through God was that you can be as much of a good samaritan as possible never doing ANYTHING bad throughout your life and still goto hell coz you didn't say ya hail mary's or goto church every sunday...but if a child rapist comverted into becoming a christian, he'd be guarenteed entrance at the pearly gates...

Terumoto 09-26-06 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I'm asking.

And possibly god is your toenail clippings, possibly he isnt.

You made that statement a lot more definite than I would have thought was deemibly acceptable by someone who says he believes in nothing.


And who are you?

-TeamOne- 09-26-06 11:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
....What is a sin?

youll know when you commit it

∆ P E X X 09-26-06 11:30 AM

when you say "god"do you mean in the bullshit sense, or the real sense?

Zone Out 09-26-06 11:57 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
well put it this way jus a few examples...

1st. he's sposed to be all forgiving yet people go to hell...

2nd. still on the forgiving trip, noaks ark...wtf is up with god killing everything except 2 of each animal???...i mean God's portrayed as some being who doesn't condone violence, yet the bible claims he nearly wiped out all of earths population...

i unno if these are just mere flaws or what not...but i know that God is more like a salesman...in my opinion

He didnt kill everything except 2 of each animal
it was 7 of each animal, 2 of each unclean animal

Zone Out 09-26-06 12:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
jobe, jacob it's all the same

and i heard about the theory of global flooding to connect to what ya saying Nos but thing is i jus don't understand why God himself would go against a commandment that HE himself told Moses

Thou Shalt Not Kill.

If these people were tainted, they'd goto hell and i also find it hard to believe that in the whole of civilisation that only 2 people (Noah & his wife) were the only fully committed christians ya get me...

and what i originally meant by forgiveness through God was that you can be as much of a good samaritan as possible never doing ANYTHING bad throughout your life and still goto hell coz you didn't say ya hail mary's or goto church every sunday...but if a child rapist comverted into becoming a christian, he'd be guarenteed entrance at the pearly gates...

wow, Mad Dog, you're a very VERY ignorant person.
lol, before you make statements, PLEASE atleast read the bible.
It wasnt just Noah and his wife
it was Noah, his wife
his 3 sons and their wives
and some of their kids
yes, it was incest like a mothafucka. but still
it wasnt just 2 people

now, Yes, God said Thou Shall Not Kill
by thou, he means you, mothafucka.
he's god, he can do what he wants.
and on top of that, thou shall not kill refers to me shooting you and killing you over some bullshit.
In times of war, thou shall kill, because its war.

Zone Out 09-26-06 12:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
oh and what about the story of jacob?

God killed all his family, friends, live stock, and made Jacob incredibly ill...JUST to prove to satan that he'd still worship him...YET it's always been claimed that God never needs to PROVE himself...just that you have faith in him and that you believe in him

Wrong again, Mad Dog
lol...wrong again man
Im not gonna follow your every post and correct
just read the Bible YOURSELF and try to understand before you start makin all these accusations

Dufflebag Boy 09-26-06 01:29 PM

damn if noah and his wife was the only human survivors of the flooding
that means they had kids and THEIR kids had kids together!!!!

thats incest on a global level :throwup:

-TeamOne- 09-26-06 01:33 PM

haha everyone on RV is related

Blay'all 09-26-06 03:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
well put it this way jus a few examples...

1st. he's sposed to be all forgiving yet people go to hell...

2nd. still on the forgiving trip, noaks ark...wtf is up with god killing everything except 2 of each animal???...i mean God's portrayed as some being who doesn't condone violence, yet the bible claims he nearly wiped out all of earths population...

i unno if these are just mere flaws or what not...but i know that God is more like a salesman...in my opinion

all is forgiven IF you ask for forgiveness. thats the point. and 2, that's in the Old Testament bud. the whole idea of God being all-forgiving and all of our sins being forgiven comes because of the crucifying of Christ... think about it.

Dufflebag Boy 09-26-06 03:58 PM

i just posted this in one of my threads so im'a just copy n' paste

if there is a god i dont believe he's in any shape of a person
god is like a force...kinda like how death was a force in final destination
but he's like all of what is around you (kinda like the matrix)
i think if u see god he comes to u as an illusion of a person
he's no more as a vision through ur eyes of the spirit
but god ITSELF exists and is constantly around us

theres ur explanation :thumbup:

Zone Out 09-26-06 05:58 PM

thats not an explaination, thats your opinion or theory
big difference

Dufflebag Boy 09-26-06 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Will S.Unyu
thats not an explaination, thats your opinion or theory
big difference


my explanation of my theory :thumbup:

Terumoto 09-26-06 06:14 PM

Will, could you say what you believe God actually is? Like mindstate did, but your opinion?

It will be interesting.

La Cosa Nostra 09-26-06 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by A p e x x
when you say "god"do you mean in the bullshit sense, or the real sense?

Real sense..

What else...

Zone Out 09-26-06 07:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindstate
my explanation of my theory :thumbup:

Exactly

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terumoto
Will, could you say what you believe God actually is? Like mindstate did, but your opinion?

It will be interesting.


He is a higher being
A presence...
I dont know, but I love him for creating me

Terumoto 09-26-06 08:47 PM

So he's something? An actual being, somewhere? Or are you saying something similar to what mindstate said?

La Cosa Nostra 09-26-06 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
haha everyone on RV is related

Retarded****

You mean...

M&rk 09-26-06 11:49 PM

god is love..
.. and also a metaphor made up to make people do good rather than bad

Terumoto 09-27-06 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 2pictureperfect
god is love..
.. and also a metaphor made up to make people do good rather than bad


What makes you say that?

M&rk 09-27-06 07:32 PM

i dont think anything in any religion should be taken literal its just a thing to read and take out what feels right... no reason to fight over any specifics like religions always do because no one can honestly say what they beleive hasn't ever been altered and i think god knew that so the main ideas stayed intact with the love we all have for eachother.. and that is god

Blay'all 09-28-06 06:23 AM

i love how once you make a point in this thread (or any thread) it gets ignored, because nobody can argue back... so they act like it wasn't said.

Ebircs 09-28-06 07:45 AM

Nos !!!!!!!!

im using some of this shit u post in here for my comp class !!!

LOL, seriouly man.....

Terumoto 09-28-06 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by D'KAP
i love how once you make a point in this thread (or any thread) it gets ignored, because nobody can argue back... so they act like it wasn't said.


What are you referring to?

Blay'all 09-28-06 10:39 AM

^

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
well put it this way jus a few examples...

1st. he's sposed to be all forgiving yet people go to hell...

2nd. still on the forgiving trip, noaks ark...wtf is up with god killing everything except 2 of each animal???...i mean God's portrayed as some being who doesn't condone violence, yet the bible claims he nearly wiped out all of earths population...

i unno if these are just mere flaws or what not...but i know that God is more like a salesman...in my opinion
Quote:
Originally Posted by D'KAP
all is forgiven IF you ask for forgiveness. thats the point. and 2, that's in the Old Testament bud. the whole idea of God being all-forgiving and all of our sins being forgiven comes because of the crucifying of Christ... think about it.


. . .

Mad Dog 09-28-06 12:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by D'KAP
all is forgiven IF you ask for forgiveness. thats the point. and 2, that's in the Old Testament bud. the whole idea of God being all-forgiving and all of our sins being forgiven comes because of the crucifying of Christ... think about it.


Either way...ALL those people who died went to hell...so God might has well just done what he's supposedly always done...and lets humans make their own mistakes...

coz lets face it, when there's no people around...do you think the camels, antelope & beavers'll start worshiping God?...

btw i'm talking ABOUT Noah's ark...and also this topic is about GOD...it could be the Karan, The Bible whatever it still contains stories about GOD...THAT'S the subject...and i'm saying God is hypocritical...

La Cosa Nostra 09-28-06 06:48 PM

^How do you know ANYONEs ever gone to hell?

Magic5 09-29-06 01:19 AM

I've visited a few times and saw millions of people. It's quite the vacation spot.

Terumoto 09-29-06 02:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
Either way...ALL those people who died went to hell...so God might has well just done what he's supposedly always done...and lets humans make their own mistakes...

coz lets face it, when there's no people around...do you think the camels, antelope & beavers'll start worshiping God?...

btw i'm talking ABOUT Noah's ark...and also this topic is about GOD...it could be the Karan, The Bible whatever it still contains stories about GOD...THAT'S the subject...and i'm saying God is hypocritical...


Its because people have a completely warped view of christianity and their concept of God is terrible, that you would even think that.

Zone Out 09-29-06 02:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
Either way...ALL those people who died went to hell...so God might has well just done what he's supposedly always done...and lets humans make their own mistakes...

coz lets face it, when there's no people around...do you think the camels, antelope & beavers'll start worshiping God?...

btw i'm talking ABOUT Noah's ark...and also this topic is about GOD...it could be the Karan, The Bible whatever it still contains stories about GOD...THAT'S the subject...and i'm saying God is hypocritical...

duh
nigga thats called free will
it wouldnt be much of a life if God controlled you and MADE you do everything


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