Why do people hate on Martial Arts?
 

God willing, I'm about to start Karate classes, or Tae Kwon Do, soon. But, when I was telling my man Lee whom I work with, he was like, "Bro, that's why they have guns."

Sup with that...

Anybody do martial arts here? How long does it take to get really good at it?





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it takes at least 10 years to become good at it

to become excellent, unless you have a natural ability its gonna take you in excess of 15-20 years

but that depends on the martial art

You shoulda slapped him for saying that shit. Martial arts go way beyond karate chops and jumpkicks.

^^^yeh for real...that guy dunno wtf he talkin about

Your freind has a point.

:shoot:
^Buddy with the gun

:banghead:
Q with the kung fu

Whos gonna win? aha

it honestly doesnt take long if you really want to get good at it. if you practice constantly then you'll be pretty decent in a year or 2. but it also depends on what youre taking.

for example, my cousin started kajukembo around 6 months ago. he's only 9 and now he's at the top of his class.

constant practice is what you need.

Martial arts is a lifestyle.

Also, you can disarm someone with a gun, break their arm, and shoot them with their own gun, in about 3 seconds, so ya.

Martial arts teaches you more then how to fight
it builds you as a person and makes you more disciplined
Fuck guns.
I should go back to boxing and lose my uh.. Baby fat!

My friend frankie is 15 and he's a 3rd Degree Black Belt and he teaches classes at his DOjo or whatever u call it and he's won world wide tournements....hes personally met hundreds of boxers n shit

im not against the whole martial arts thing, but truthfully i mean a 20 year experienced martial artist doesent stand a chance with a person whose been getting trained on how to use an AK-47 for 1 year, to kill people guns would be better, but if your looking for more like rev said a lifestlye, then id go with martial arts

karate chopz q

besides that if i had a glock from twenty feet lets see you kick me hoecake:shoot:

but if your dope at it.... its still pretty badass

LSMAFOGSNSG

Are you a fucking idiot?

Please, if you've never done Martial Arts, dude, shut up...

I was in Tae Kwon Do for three years...I made it up to a green belt. If I would have continued, I probably would have made it to black shortly after.

That was ni grade thee and shit though lol...

It really depends what you wanna do it for.

Self-defence is nice, but really, it gets you in hella good shape.

honestly if i was to practice anything ide look for a mixed martial arts class because if u do stand up only someone with ju jit zu could really harm u badly if u dont know your ground game thank ufc for exposing that aspect martial arts= good mixed martial arts = great

My personal opinion Q, and this is me talking some real shit to you wich prolly dosn't happen often.

DON'T do Tae Kwon Doe

1) It's one of the lamest Martial Arts to do
2) It's not affective unless you're really good at it

Trust me...

I wouldn't do Karate either if I was you. I've personaly done karate for 2 years at 3 differant clubs, and I found that it's almost imposible to find a genuine club that's more interested in teaching you the martial arts then taking your money. Most clubs are like a big scam, give you a higher belt every week and charge 50$ everytime. Expensive but you'll be thinking "wow i'm doing so well" -_-

TRUST ME

You might wanna try Jujitsu, or if you're into more self defensive, Judo. Muay Thai is also a GREAT martial arts, violent too. Kickboxing is like Muay Thai but less voilent natured and more of a sport.

It depends really if you want to do this for fun and get serious at it? And do you want to do competition if you get good?

By the way, you can't say "how long will it take until I become good" because you're either good at it or you're not. It took me around 3 years to become the provincial champion in judo and that's what I consider good....

And it also depends on if you like your martial arts more offense, or self-defense. Voilent, or less voilent. All out do whatever it takes to kill the guy, or only attack by countering his own attacks.

But get at me cuz I prolly know more about martial arts then anyone else on RV...

I don't really hear many people hating on martial arts. I was learning bujinkan taijutsu for a long time before moving to Australia, but I haven't done anything for a while.

Next year I'll probably start going to Tae Kwon Do. Personally, I don't think its lame. Since I've got long legs it means bigger swings, more momentum, longer range, stronger, faster and higher kicks. There is a bit of grappling and punches, but Tae Kwon Do is mainly centred around kicks. I've found a great master in sydney, a man who was one of the most elite Tae Kwon Do martial artists in Korea. Like Jack said though, it becomes more effective the better you get at it.

And you REALLY gotta watch out for that scam shit. 95% of martial arts places have a crap master, barely any skill past shaky basics, and charge a lot of fees. Uniform, membership fee, grading fee, belt fee, you name it they have a fee. Try to avoid these places, do a bit of research on the teacher there.

Asking how long it will take for you to get "good" is like asking how long is a piece of string... It all depends on how you approach it, what type of teacher you have, how often you practice. And even then, what you thought was "good" will just seem normal to you. There will be something else you feel need to learn to get "good." You'll probably seem good to other non-MA people though like a month or two into learning.

Just ignore those dudes who say shit like "fuk dat shit yo i bus catz wit a gun shitz way betta." Anyone can be deadly when they have something that was made to kill like a gun. But what if you dont have one? Martial Artists can defend themselves with or without weapons, other people can only do it with a weapon and sometimes can't even succeed with a gun. I mean, you decide...

Person A: I am physically fit and I am able to defend myself in almost any circumstance because I am skilled in combatative arts.

Person B: If I have a working gun, ammunition and I can see my target, I can defend myself because of my ability to move my finger slightly.

Thanks for all the feedback...

Imma look into Judo...I'm mainly interested in self defense and discipline

Anger management type of deal



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word i had a book on judo...it's a decent for of martial arts

i did karate for a couple of years as a kid...i remember when i first got my gi (thats what they called ya kit) and this kid came up to me like hahahahaha you only a white belt...so i said yeah...and what belt are you on?...and he said well i don't do karate...so i said well...thats one belt higher than you...

but all martial arts are about discipline man...it's never about violence it's all self-control...

No you're wrong...

My brother is doing a form of Russian Martial Arts that they use to teach the soviet millitary, forgot what it's called, but basicaly it teachers you to kill your oppenant no matter what. Lowblows, bite him, pull his hair, dosn't matter... They teach you to be deadly with any form of a weapon, even a pen... And they teach you how to fight more then 2 people at once, and how to grab someone and use them as a shield while you fight. Among many other things...

But ya, Muay Thai also has a pretty violent origin

Ya, Judo is all self defense and discipline, but there's no punching or kicking in it, or chops, elbows, knee's etc... It's just throws, takedowns, and submission. You MIGHT learn how to disarm an oppenant, but prolly not. You'll learn like throws, and how to use your oppenants own weight against him. How to counter an attack with a throw. And armlocks and chokes.

bruv people can be taught how to kill anyone using martial arts...but martial arts didn't originate as a form of violence but a form of discipline and self-control

that russian martial arts you talkin about is just a twisted version of martial arts...oh i also forgot to mention it's a form of SELF-DEFENSE...and also biting, and pulling hair & low blows aren't part of martial arts...although my sensi did say use it if it's ABSOLUTE last resort i.e headlock then you bite to get out if you can't reverse the lock...

but i'm not disregarding that post you did...but some people teach martial arts without the background behind it...it's like giving a trigger happy postman a gun...you know he's gonna shoot :shoot:

After readin this I think I wanna do some Martial Arts lol

Im def. doin it







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Russians mainly train in Combat Sambo...

and training any single martial art is retarded in my eyes...

mixed martial arts is the way to go

Do muay thai.. thats what im gonna do.. It gives you the most work out.. it also is the most toughest training i know of. you really learn alot from it. Not only that, but it is perfect for self defense. I teaches you to be fast with your reflex, learn your sorroundings, and even teach you how to be quick on your mind. It is really worth it. Did karate for 2 years, helped put me in shape alittle but just didnt seem good. The trainers didnt seem dedicated to teaching you. My step-dad did 5 different martial art styles. he masterd 4 of em.
kung fu,
take wan do or however u spell it lol,
kick boxing, ninjitsu,
and best of all.. muay thai

he didnt master muay thai cuz of work and now a family lol.. but yea, i'd choose muay thai if i were you..

youn fuckin moron i did martial arts from when i was younger

and i aint talkin bout that commercial ass MMA shit you do im talkin bout ONE martial art

and when i said good i dont mean average which is what it seems half these people are talkin about, i mean being in a position where you are reknowned and respected

shit my boy was tellin me at his taekwondo black belt grading there were brown belts who couldnt do jack

and as i have experience in martial arts you can kindly go fuck yourself :thefinger

~peace~

Man if thats what you're after, I recommend Muay Thai. For self defense and discipline, it's probably one of the most effective out there. And in it is one of the strongest blows of any martial arts, the rising knee strike (Dont know the Thai name). They did a test once where they got together a whole lot of professional Martial Artists from different styles, even western styles like boxing, and said "K, do your strongest move on this dummy." And the dummy had all these high-tech sensors like they use in crash testing for cars.

So they all did this insane shit, like flying backwards kicks, huge punches, and they were all incredibly strong. Then when it was the Muay Thai guys turn he just went "......... TSU" and really quickly did some close range shit that hardly looked as flashy as what the other people were doing. It was the rising knee... The scientists were like "wtf" because it registered the same amount of force as the dummy would receive in a car crash test, where the car was going 35 miles per hour.

So yeah if you wanna be a walking 35m/h car crash to people, get some Muay Thai happening and train very hard. -_-

go into mixed martial arts... period

^^aiight


but yo...Muay Thai?

gotcha


Judo & Muay Thai


Imma call the guy soon cuz the first 2 classes are free!

Lol, well I don't agree at all. The russian martial art that i'm talking about DID originate as a form of violence. And yes, biting, pulling hair, lowblows, using anything you can grab as a weapon, IS a form of martial arts. It all depends wich martial arts. And it's legal to give a lowblow in Muay Thai, if you cop a lowblow that's your own damn fault, you gotta protect your shit.

Ya but not everyones like us, he doesn't seem like he'd be into getting serious in MMA anyways

Oh, and what are YOUR credentials? Lmao

You're saying you need atleast 10 years to get good in a single martial arts, dude, please...

Just do Judo...

It seems most suited for you.

Q, dont listen to those guys saying you should do mixed martial arts. As a beginner trying to learn, it would be difficult to do more than one and progress in both at the same time. Mixed martial arts are more effective, the people who have been saying this have probably seen international free-style fighting competitions and noted that the people who go well in those often dont adhere to one style and use a combination of many.

Maybe once you get into a particular style a fair way, it would be beneficial for you to try out a new style if you are enjoying martial arts and are serious about it. But until then just choose one and go with it. It looks like you've narrowed it down to Muay Thai and Judo. Just do a bit of research on both and see which one appeals more to you. By the way, Muay Thai may be referred to in America as Thai Boxing, so if youre having trouble finding a place for it that might be why.

is Muay Thai a mixed Martial Arts?
I dont get the idea of mixed martial arts, do you mean going two diffrent ones at the same time?

Imma do either Muay Thai or Judo







Thanks

Umm... actually I was a wrestler that jumped right into mixed martial arts. Training one art does nothing but hold you back.

you tai boe hoe :laugh: sry couldn't resist