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An explanation ONE MOE TIME why I think Biggie is #1...wow
Again, I listened to his song "My Downfall" all morning long...I've heard this song about 10000000 times. But, I've been studying Biggie's technique (flow/delivery/presence) alot lately. And, what I discovered is that he is brilliant with flow.
#1...In the song "My Downfall" I purposely counted through the beat to keep track of the "snare." Biggie Completely disregards the snare and basically raps to his own cadence. The amazing thing about him doing this is that his flow is "on beat", but NO WHERE, NO WHERE near the cadence. I mean, it almost sounds like his voice is the "beat" and the actual beat is melding around it. AMAZING! I appreciate how Biggie said what he said more than his actual lyrics, though he was a master at metas. Lots of people claim to be "better" than Biggie. But, when you go back and study the man's fundamentals, he's unbelieveably gifted and talented. 1 |
Well I dont know. Personally I think 2Pac has no flow and Biggie was just an east coast hype man in an age where the east coast scene was dominated by more jazzy artists.
I dont see anything special about Big that separates him from people like Big L or anything. |
yeh bigs flow is nice.
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Biggie had best flow, nothing new.
Tupac had better lyrics hands down tho. |
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I'm a fan of flow bro...That' what I focus on...And, Biggie's flow was immaculate... What amazes me more tho is how when you truly listen to his raps over and over again, u pick up things (nuances) u missed before. That, my friend, is the definition of greatness, IMO. Listen to the song "My Downfall"...u'll see what Im sayin 1 |
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Very true, I understand what you're saying. He's the only rapper to ever beat Jay-Z in the big lips division of hip hop too... jp Gimmie the loot was dope. |
^ROFL @ big lips shit
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^^Listen yall mothafuckin racist ass rappin ass wipers
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I was jk. No hate on the lips.
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anyone who emulates somebody elses style to make their own, is garbage. end of story.
be creative. be your self. respect is one thing. immitation something along the lines of shit. |
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*cries* im bro yao's number 1 fan but yo...how'd you rate weird al then A P E X X ? |
^funny you should ask that man i was talkin to somebody else about that shit.
flippin around other peoples shit is all cool and all and is great for entertainment value. but who the hell respects weird al as a lauriette of any sort. they don't make awards for swaggerjackers, ya underdig? |
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lmao werd man weird al is the king of parodies but could he make his "own" songs? i unno but have you heard do i creep you out?...he parodied taylor hicks song do i make you proud...video is funny as shit, so's the lyrics lol |
only clowns would listen to that Weird Al shit
and Biggie is a beast He's better than Tupac Tupac was boring as hell, nigga never changed up his flowBiggie had entire albums that was great where he changed up his flow, changed up the subject matter, all of that. Big was all around better Ready To Die, Life After Death and lets face it, if Biggie would've dissed Pac back, he would've ended his damn career. |
ehhh biggie is overrated...guess u can have the same arguement wit 2pac
but 2pac was more than just a rapper..he was a modern day revolutionary 2pac entered the rap game with meaning and had the biggest heart |
lmao
he entered the rap game with meaning and a big heart? I thought he entered it to be a back up dancer and to wear fruit baskets on his head IE Digital Underground |
theat was sumtihn he did for cash then he was homeless he never entered the game to do that its jus sumtihn he did u
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he was homeless?
I dont see why he went to a performing arts school and was acting in movies |
this was in between the time after he had dropped out of high skool n before he was in any movie
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you dont actually think someone just all of a sudden becomes a rap star do u?? he started out like anyone of us...wit crummy jobs and worked his way up..he worked at a pizza place, then he became a back up dancer, then he blew up...he earned it...and yes i admit digital underground was a bit nerdy and dorky but that was digital underground..pac was a WHOLE diffrent thing if u take time ta actually realize who pac was and what he was about then u too probably be a fan of his |
I dont care about his life, I care about his raps
well, actually I dont care about that either He was a drama queen, he had decent lyrics in umm, 40% of his tracks, the others was just ranting and cursing.. ALOT of cursing. lmao He was a better actor than he was a rapper. If you're one way and you join a group thats another way, that makes you a sell out, Im sorry. I would never join a group like B5. Why? because Im too hard for that shit. Joining B5 just because its a chance of gettin my music out is coppin out. and that whole westside til I die shit was bullshit. He was a traitor. Mark ass wannabee gangbanger |
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2pac got shot 5 times and got shot 4 xtra times which took his life he died over gang violence...he even shot off guns in his INTERVIEWS he been arrested and shit for shooting 2 off duty cops in atlanta and was the creater of "thug life" he set codes for criminals and O.Gs how is that even anywhere close to a "wannabe gangbanger"???? his shit was the realest ever he talked from experience in life and i think i remember saying this before but i continue ta stand by my word if you was from somewhere and moved to a diffrent place in the country and u notices that u get more love and respect from the place ur at now ur gonna end up reppin where u live right now...fuck where u came from aint like he lied bout his past he still was down wit homies on the eastcoast he was just thrown in the middle of a overrated east-westcoast war he dissed biggie, mobb deep, lil kim, bad boy, and all that coincidentally it was personal it wasnt like he jumped on the bandwagon and shit he had love for the eastcoast..one nation is from the eastcoast he was doin songs wit them he was gonna create a Death Row East ta kill off the beef between the west and east..he did as much as he could pac was no traitor |
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Pac was a traitor If you spend more than the first decade of your life in a place, thats where you from, he went to the westcoast and hopped on nigga's dicks. He wasnt thrown in between the eastcoast west coast war, the nigga STARTED IT!! WTF? He was going to create Death Row East? I never heard of that. The point is, fuck his life, fuck everyone that call him a "revolutionary" lmao, which is dumb. Che Guvera was a damn revolutionary, Malcom X was a revolutionary MLK was one aswell, Tupac Shakur was NOT! He was just a loud mouth drama queen ass nigga that did poetry and had his boys fuck girls in the ass and shit. Real Talk and his RAPPING ABILITIES, wasnt on Biggie's level. |
^^i never said bout his rapping abilities being on anyone's level
and whoever said u can never rep the place u live now??? and YES he was gonna start a deathrow east i seen interviews on it but ehh we all got our opinions but u shouldnt be so quick ta hate on pac |
I understand reppin the place that you're at now
I cant hate on that, I moved to cincinnati but I still reppin detroit now Im back in detroit and when ask me about the nati I say it was cool, it was straight niggas down there doin their thing BUT I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER say "CINCINNATI TIL I DIE, FUCK DETROIT" Cause I was raised in Detroit, why would I hate the place that Im from? shit's lame and I never seen interviews OR heard any shit about that until now, so until you can prove it, Imma deny it. |
ight i'll send u sumthin on aim ta prove it
btw u back in detroit???? werd must be good ta be home |
I rarely agree with Zone, mindstate. but
Pac was a hood-hopper. Everyone knows that. |
nigga I've been back in Deroit for 4 weeks
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*yawn* I hate it when people say Pac was a revolutionary.. you know, I consider many other rappers revolutionary in the sense you people consider him, it isnt special .. |
"its not where your from its where your at"
Honesty In my opinion I think that pac was better. He had better songs and I can vibe off what he's saying because I can relate to some of the things he says..That Dear Mama track is somthing I can relate to with my mom. Pretty much the same shit happend with me and my mom as in that track as to where maybe some of biggies tracks you could relate to or feel more......I love pac's charisma and the way he did things...I dont know..Its all about opinion and taste..this is an argument that could never be ended. |
^^hell yea u got good tastes
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Well, this thread isn't about Pac vs Biggie...But, anyone knows Biggie's TECHNICAL aspects were "better" than Pacs...Big cud outflow Pac anyday of the week... Biggie appeals to many people tho....If u ain't feelin his "message" then u ain't feelin it 1 |
Big and Pac barely touch top 10
and thats only if you consider mainstream artists There legends of there time, not mine |
Pac was better than biggie dude.. By far..
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Your a fuckwhit... |
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