Don't you hate when you're talking to someone who's just...not in the know?
 

like.. lets say you heard snoop say "for shizzle bizzle", and you know that snoop meant "for sure bitch" and you try to tell somebody else that he's sayin "for sure bitch" and they don't understand that. they're like "what??? what are you talkin about, that's not what happened. prove it!!" and you're just shakin your head like...son....i can't prove something that you only learn through experience. he's talking to people who are in the know. you're out of touch.. and you just don't get it!!



..know what i'm sayin??

and if you don't...you're prolly the person outta touch lmao

Man, wtf are you talking about? People like that dont even exist...

yea, tacit knowledge... thats what people "in the know" call wat ur describin... look it up, or suck a dick...

orr i could justt......not gve a fux lol

knowing something that next to no one i'll ever meet will know... something that i'll never be able to use to communicate with someone... is useless knowledge to me.

your a faggot wow.

^lmao yeah, you're def one of those dudes who's not in the know.

now go skate around your "block" with no shirt on again lmao

But on the real, I know what you're talking about. Not only those people are annoying, but also the ones that won't believe the blatantly obvious, and no matter how clearly you lay it out for them they somehow manage to not believe what you're saying.

OMB man, sometimes it's like you read my mind.

It's all a matter of perspective though. Most rich people can't imagine a reason why a homeless person can't get a job but a homeless person knows exactly why. So if you're telling someone that one thing's the way it is they have a reason they believe differently, they're not just trying to deny what you call reality.

OMFG!! when me and my mother argue thats ALL SHE DOES!!
it gets so annoying i wanna slit her throat, sew it back up, and slit it again

yeah but that person has the view they have because they lack certain experience.

in your example, who's lacking the exerience, the rich person...or the bum?

The rich person.

how so

Because the rich person lacks the experience of trying to get a job as a bum.

lmao

or like people r like "he's not asian, he's chinese" n im like "China iz in Asia" n theyre like "uhhh, no. China and Asia r 2 completely different countries" n theyre like "nooo"

or like "ur latino? so ur Mexican?" im like "uhhhh, no, not Mexican..." they like "well then how do u speak Mexican?" im just like "OMMFG :shoot:"

faaaack. werd

hahhaha with what you said....you have to be really "not in the know" to not fathom that..

but on the real..i understand what yall are saying..but a lot of times when it comes to people being ignorant on topics like these...they really just don't care enough about what your talking about to understand...

like the fo shizzle bizzle thing.....if a person who isn't really in tune with that kind of language..they really arn't going to care enough to try to understand...because if i was to go up to some middle aged white women who has never heard anyone say that..shes going to look at me like i'm the oddest person on earth..and even if i tell her what i mean..shes still going to be like.."well why didn't you just say that then?" everybody is like that at one point in there life..we hear or see something that is so foreign that we just dismiss it as rediculous

i hope i wrote all that to where it makes sense..if not i'll try and explain it better

doesn't the bum lack the expereince of being a rich person?

see a rich person knows something a bum doesn't. that you are the captain of your own ship. that is to say.. you.. are only a product of your drive and initiative to sustain or improve... your self. sure, unfortunate things happen but how much they affect you (if at all).. is completely at your control. your situation is a direct result of the choices in life that you make.

bums have the mentality of bums, long before they ever become homeless. they think that unless some grand fortunate event is plucked out of the cosmos and falls right into their lap that nothing will ever happen for them. most people want to avoid the pain of thinking that they're the one responsible for the situation they're in. they want to blame and point fingers and lay the responsibility for their life on everything else but the actual source of their lifestyle.

themself.

that mentality is the seperation of the self made rich from the self made poor.

Thats it! You just put what I always try to tell people in a very understandable few sentences. I usually say something like "Oh well, it's all your fault anyway," if people try to pull some victim shit.

Well for the average bum, are they going to be able to shower and shave and have good clothes for an interview? No. Do they have an address or phone number the potential employer can contact them at? No.

I understand in some circumstances that can be overcome, but not all OR most.

And I'm not saying some dude who blew off his savings at Vegas and got fired the next week at work. Let's say someone who had something happen to them that they couldn't control, (maybe their wife got killed and they went into a deep depression blah blah blah) and got into their current position not by being irresponsible or anything, just shit changed. It's not like they WANT to be where they are, but once they are it's extremely difficult if not nearly impossible to get out. I know the trouble I had getting a job already, I can't imagine how hard it would be if I couldn't groom and didn't have contact info. Most self made rich, lets say like yourself, didn't really have experiences like the AVERAGE person with a 9-5. Maybe you had a 9-5 for a while I don't know, but since then you haven't and have been experiencing a different form of earning your money than most.

I know it seems like a lot of it's excuses and shit but shit does happen that you can't control. If a company all of a sudden loses 90% of it's customers for WHATEVER reason, they can't just bounce back as a company, no matter how hard they try. It's the same with people.

I hope you can understand and I do see where your coming from but I'm saying I'm coming from a different perspective. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you're wrong from what I can see.

lol i know how you feel man, that was me not all too long ago. then over time i learned how to become a more effective comunicator ;)

Lingual communication is mediocre at best. -_-

soc..

a bum.. doesn't have to have a desk job lol. a bum can get a job sweeping floors, taking out garbage, delivering the paper to a place once a day, posing for an artist, hell, i could think of a billion things. if i were a bum, shit, i would take a job scrubbing grafitti off of a wall!! if someone would pay me to do it. what ever it took to build my foundation back, on an honest dollar. but see, i think like that because.. that's my drive. my drive drives me to be that observant and that determined and resilliant. bums are bums because they're unproductive and don't have drive. why do you think people that are unproductive are called...bums?? lol. but a bum is in a unique situation where people will be willing to help them because they connect with the "human story" - the same reason people give to charity...or give to bums for that matter. the problem is most bums have a high sense of pride and a high sense of entitlement with a low sense of drive. they think that doing the things neccessary to get them back on their feet is degrading or too low and laying on the sidewalk feeling sorry for your self with your hand out stretched is a better alternative. no matter how you got there (and even that's at your control believe it or not), you're there. what you decide to do or not do from there is completely up to you.

i guarantee a self made rich person will spend less time on the street homeless than a self made poor person. and that's because their drive is different.

btw, I'm not going to get into my personal life, but for the record, i've had dozens upon dozens 9-5's, all the while i worked my own thing. that's because of my drive. nobody ever gave me anything, i never got any handouts in life or grew up in a privelaged environment. quite the opposite, but the difference is i never felt sorry for my self. i never said "hey mark...you deserve to take it easy now" fuck that. i'm not gonna kick back just because things are going "okay". i can work for my self, and work for somebody else, and use their money, to fuel my goals. why would i not want to do that?

^^that's drive. that's what seperates the rich from the poor. and that's all. nothing less. and nothing more.

sad fact is 90% of the people in the world don't have that.

This is one of those agree to disagree things.

I couldn't agree more.



91%.

I once tried to convince this girl that oxymoron didn't mean she was stupid and needed oxy clean for her pimples. (Seriously)

Apexx, if this is shit u only learn through experience, aka tacit knowledge, why are u able to speak so eloquently on the subject of homeless and rich people.... how are u so in the know about these circumstances and these peoples mindsets???

^2 words.

empathy and experience.

ohhhh.... so u rose up from bumdom to become a millionaire..... didnt know that

WORD to this thread. I started reading the posts farther down on the first page and I was expecting everybody to be down with what Socrates was saying, but Apexx saved the day with that real shit, for real. HELLZ YEAH.

hell yeah, the truth is still alive mimesis!

ive actually have worked at tons of shelters... and its not really true that bums have a lack of drive.... one example is this one homeless person i met who had a doctorate in some form of communications from Northwestern U and he just met a TON of unfortunate events.... i agree that there are ALOT of cases where bums have a lack of drive.... but society looks down on u and doesnt help u... so many get stuck in that circumstance... u forget to note in depth that wen ur a bum u wont look appealing to an employer at all.... so u will ONLY get shit jobs that will only allow u to pay for the shittiest circumstances, and wont allow u to progress.... yes u could POSSIBLY meet ur basic needs scrubbin floors and shit, but u cant move forward, u will be stuck in that position.... im only describin the unfortunate cases tho

Team, we're talking to a bunch of know it alls who can't comprehend not controlling the universe.

true... i wont lie, i see Apexx's point, but with that drive or without it, either way u are fucked for most of ur life.... only successful homeless man ever was woody guthrie and that was only cuz he could sing

like, that Northwestern U alum will prolly NEVER have the opportunity to reach the potential of his education because WHO is gonna hire him??? wen there are gonna be tons of others as or lesser qualified who seem to be more stable.....

if u dont have a family that supports u in hard times, and some drastic economic event occurs to u... u could very easily never recover from rock bottom.... (which is exactly wat happened to many of these people... many homeless people either have dead parents, parents that have disowned them, or parents who cant afford to help them out) in many cases, the dying of the parents is wat causes a person to become economically depressed....

i admit there are alot of cases where bums have no lack of drive, altho many are like this after MANY attemps of trying and finally deciding its worthless, but u just cant generalize that at all.... ive seen too many counter circumstances to just say "bums are lazy and dont give a fuck, its their fault"

why are you so full of resentment? i agreed with you, it's all a matter of opinion, and yet you still wanna beef with me and try to attack me. are you that desperate to look and feel right? would that make you feel vindicated soc?

i'm not gonna argue with 90% of the world man.

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Roflz, that smiley is ill son.

1. It's not just you.
2. It's not just now.

what do you mean :whacky: