Ruined...
 

This world has ruined me, I have learned all the wrong things, and barely anything I need to know... And it will go on like this!

How am I so unlucky?

What you have learnt is bricks in the wall that builds up your reality.

Whether you choose to neglect it or live it is up to you....

No, no, no, my reality is all wrong.

jsut do meth....

ah ha. another one has broken free.


the day you realize that most of the stuff you've learned in your life is complete futile garbage, that's the day your life changes.

there's another moment like that in your life too, when you discover that all the things that you think empower you are in true reality, your shackles.

i have a book you may be interested in omb. very very intersted in.

wat book's this?

well that's for OMB. and i say that, not to be a smart ass, but because the answer i have for him may be different than the book i have, for you..

Of course. Perceiving your self as empowered is giving it far more credit than it deserves. Lose the illusion, lose the self, lose the loss, find everything. But while I feel I can let go of everything at any time, I actually mentally can't but feel like I can, creating the illusion of freedom which hides the fact that my thoughts are actually not free as of yet...

Is this what you mean? What book are you talking about?

Ignorance is bliss, my LOVER.

Yeah, what book fool?! HOOK A BROTHA UP!

sounds to me like, somewhere deep down you still want it all to be true but something ringing inside you just won't let you believe it. but i think you summed it up the transcendance from one to the other beautifully. lose the loss, find everything.

Mimesis, Viva, and everyone else who's got something inside of you beggining to ask questions, The Secrets of Life by Stuart Wilde will absolutely change your life.

Tell me then...

How do you guage what is right or wrong dude?

You don't... I used the word wrong for ease of reference.

I am just afraid, because of the uncertainty of the future. What will happen if I let go? What will become of the things instilled into my reality as top priorities: career, personality and social status? Probably they would get better as a result of me being able to function without clouded perception, but I keep thinking there may be hidden disadvantages. The thing is, those disadvantages would only be considered disadvantageous in this conditioned reality. So I guess it requires a leap of faith... Ah, this is all so foolish.

Anyway, I'll let you know what I think of it when I've finished reading.

summed it all up right there. but never forget, for progress to exist, balance is key.

see you soon.

The word 'wrong' has a pretty solid definition.. Theres no gray area if thats what your thinking..

So, explain what your trying to say a little better.. I'm interested..

i think he's saying "wrong" is perceptual, but the "bricks" you were talking about were actually building toward a 'wall' that in reality is... insubstantial.

You guys are sounding like major trippers..

And dont be some pompus shitbag and act like I just havnt come to any big realisations yet because saying everything youve ever learnt is compleatly wrong is a big statement and if your not going to explain yourself properly then this thread is worthless...

Now, why is your reality all wrong? Why has the world you live in 'ruined you'?

Its obvious you know of no other reality in existance therefore stating that this one is wrong is like saying chicken shouldnt taste like chicken..

What opposite ultimate are you going off that you believe should be the 'correct' reality?

Sometimes I just blaze, eat popcorn, and watch OMB and Nos go back and forth, and just laugh my ass. S'like you dudes be figureing out the worlds biggest mysteries on a daily baisis, I can't even imagine you guys in person.

Who are you to say I have not experienced a different kind of reality? Or even that I have not seen this reality for what it is?

I am ruined, in that I have been made to think a certain way, and act in accordance to certain beliefs and ideas, that I myself did not choose to.

Name some things that you have been made to think that you have realised are wrong....

lol, yo nos, he's not saying it's "wrong" cuz truthfully nothing is "wrong". but for someone that's learned the things he's learned and come to the realizations he's come to, he realizes that he's spent years learning... distractions.

by the way, there is no "opposite". dichotomy does not exist. just another tricknowledgy illusion that keeps you seperated.

Distractions from what?


The things hes learnt build up the world around him. Would he have preferred to never learn anything? Is that what your saying?

distractions from source. just being fed into.. "the circle".

no, he would have preferred to learn things that fleshed out his awareness of the real world. the real world exists and is to be discovered. the artificial world has to be "built" around you because it does not exist. its an illusion, and must be built around you to contain you in it. something that already exists, is discovered. something that does not exist, is constructed. and the artificial world has to be constructed. you're told the bricks exist, therefore you believe they exist. do you understand?

i'll summarize it basically by saying, he realized he was being being groomed... to be led.

he was taught that certain things should be important in his life, but those things are.. control devices. he was taught that these control devices are important, and he was taught this in the traditional fashion everyone is taught this. "these things are important, and serving them, will make you important. and of course, it's important.. to be important".
he lived just to serve them as he was taught that serving them would give him importance and purpose. when in reality, it gives you neither. its just a distraction. a sphere you've allowed to be created around you. and when you transcend your sphere, you realize the entire sphere... was pointless.

I understand that..

And if he really feels that strongly against the world thats been placed infront of him then he should go live in the woods and become a pagan.

However, you have to realise we live on a ball of rock floating in an orbit through space. We are a species called human beings, and the time allocated to us to live within is there to absorb all that this world can offer us. Were here to experience THIS reality and its culture, not seperate ourselves from it and rebel against living in the world around us.

We are a direct product of what was here before us and we do what we do in this world to leave a new chaptor for the next generations to come. Theres a point in itself.. But there are literally hundreds of thousands of points to life and existance.

Your just looking at life as though its a half empty glass..

why? that to you is the antithesis of living in a fake world? do you see that living in the woods would somehow make someone more capable of living in the real world than staying in the city would?

pathetic. your mind is still stuck in the vacuum of dichotomies. you should really look the word up before we go further. and i'm saying that with compassion.

who's rebelling? by acceptingthe real world... you're doing the exact opposite of rebelling, aren't you?
rebelling is what the ignorant do, not seeing that what they're escaping to and what they're escaping from are the same thing in different forms. your escape is your trap.

nos, you have no idea what i'm looking at. in the world i live in, there is no glass. to translate my life in your world, you put me in one. you think there's hundreds of thousands of points to life? there's one point to life. there's hundreds of thousands of distractions from that point. you see, the "powers that be", a phrase you like to use a lot, don't want you aware of the power that is. so they trick you with billions of things that you believe are power...

..that are nothing.

Living in the woods......Its called escapism. If you wish to escape the reality you were born into, then live as a hermit in the woods and create your own reality of life and existance outside of the bounds of the world culture. I think you misunderstood the figure of speech in that comment bro. I also already knew the word dichotomy, but thats only in relation to the said comment here, you may aswell pass over the comment compleatly, it wasnt a instrumental part to my argument anyway, it was sarcasm saying "if you really feel so strongly that youve been wronged, then you may aswell fuck off too the woods and live the way you choose".. Get it? No?

Whatever...


Now your arguing against rebellion, so in effect, your agreeing with me. But my point is that we only know of one universe, and to say youve been ruined by it and you think all the wrong things is like saying apples are wrong, they shouldnt look like that! ....Life is wrong, it should all be different....??? Cmon man..


Really? Apexx try and name just one of the sort of things you believe I'd be talking about when I say life has hundreds of thousands of points...

Moving to a hermitage somewhere may help a little bit, but by no means is it completely necessary OR effective for what I am trying to do.

I never said I was ruined by this universe, I said I was ruined by "my" reality, "my" conceptual reality. By saying it is wrong, I am saying it is insufficient, manipulative, deceptive, not true, etc.

Oh ok..

So your saying that your waking up out of your own ignorance towards the world...

Well........cool.......

I know that was meant to be an insult, but yes... I am able to see the things hindering my existence, controlling me. I am able to see through the tricks and deception. Which is the first step to being my true, free self, at least. Although this has happened over time, not suddenly, but often in sudden bursts.

Nah dude, my bad if that sounded like an insult...

I was just saying "oh I get the point your making now"...

Know what I mean?

Oh I see, I guess its my bad for misunderstanding it. I know what you mean.

eah. i getcha. the fact that you think that's a logical solution is what i'm getting at.


wow, that's remarkably the opposite of what i was saying lol. it's amazing to me how you interpret some of th things i say man, like you fill in gaps of information with rampant assumptions, like...anywhere there is a "hole" in your mind where reasoning should be, you insert an image of me doing an and everything completely opposite to how you would do it. you reason like a simpleton. i'm not "against" you. i'm not your enemy. don't do the little kid thing and think just cuz someones not with you they're against you. instead of trying to find truth in what i'm saying, you try to fnd fault in what i'm saying, because at the end of the day, nos has to be right, even if he looks liek a fool in the process. we've already been through this before man where you've edited and deleted posts that illustrate what a raging jackass you can be. i'm not going to play into this over and over again, i have way better shit to do, with people who live for more than grooming their fragile ego.

*yawn* getting a good job is a "point" to you. having kids, your genes blah blah blah etc etc everything else to bury your insecurities are "points" to you. anything that'll make you feel like you're somebody to anybody is a "point of life" to you nos. you are the embodiment of the typical insecure dude. i'd be willing to be, you have a small penis, and you know it. you look at it in all it's sub-par glory and your ego whimpers, and your id says to it self "you know what...i'm going to compensate no..fuckit...OVERcompensate in every concievable aspect of my life, and anyone who threatens to stand in the way of me egostroking my self is gonna hear it!!"

yup. :thumbup:

Ramble on brother...

Any misinterpretations made on my behalf are due to your lack of a clear explenation... Besides, you seem to be the only one on the 'little kid thing' doing nothing further than attempting to attack my credibility.. I think Freud would say your projecting your own weaknesses on someone else.. Right bro?

Lets see if that reigns true in the second paragraph aswell...


I knew it..

You have absolutly no idea what sort of shit I was talking about..

I'm talking about the worldly effect people have on this reality and eachother. But its cool, get mad... Let everyone know you think about my penis.. It doesent really come as much of a suprise to me...

Your doing that little kid shit you were talking about in the first paragraph again, did you realise that?

yeah, as your responses build in animosity i'm expected to completely ignore it, just like you conveniently do when you wanna look "right" again. what a surprise.

and my explainations are very clear, just that your interpretation is clouded at best. everyone else i speak to understand what i'm saying, yet you don't. the more i explain it, th emore i realiez that i'm explaining color to a blind man.


what are you talking about, you said your self that a career was an important point to life, but now you're saying it's not? sounds liek you're doing the ol "oh i wasn't really talking about THAT" routine so you can look right again, as usual, the #1 play in the "how to be nos" handbook. pretty coincidental that you couldn't name not one of these new amazing points you claimed you were talking about the whole time.

right.

when you're ready to learn something man, lemme know. till then, keep living in the tiny world you live in.

Cool dude...

Your the only one being a mad little bitch here...

I've said what I had to say, you can sit here and try to tell me what I think as though I dont know myself all you like.. Its not going to change anything to suit your argument..

Your interlect is an inch deep man... Winning arguments isnt always about how many references you can spurt off and pretend to be an authority on and (to use your own words) being a raging jackass when things dont go your way.

lmao where am i bein mad at dude i been laughin at you from post 1! lol yeah, whatever you say nos lol. just keep on ducking those stinging questions man lol. maybe if you stick your head in the sand deep enough, you might actually forget em!!

lol, yeah you're right man, my "interlect" is an inch deep lol. you've schooled me again with your vast blabber about everything but the real point nos lol.

like i said man, lol have fun in your bubble

you only learned what you came across if you learned all the "wrong things" then you aint really looking past whats right in front of you, look harder and you'll find the right things..and whats "wrong" is all a matter of perspective

Try Jesus.








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