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Marriage and procreation...
If God wants you to be married before procreation, but he allowed humans to be fertile at such a young age. Most people want their children to be around twenty or older when they get married so they don't make stupid choices. So, are they going against the christian God? Why, if he exists, would he give us sexual maturity at such a young age if he didn't expect us to make children that early?
Welp... - hitches up trousers. - I should be getting on a fucking spree. |
dude if you expect christianity to make sense you're the fool.
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it doesn't say that u have to marry at a certian age, back in the midevil time people only lived till like 30s so they got married at like 14 and shit. but yo i dont believe in marriage anyway so w/e.
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Maybe he did it to give people the chance to make their own decisions and "test" us in a way. Think about it, if there were a difference between heaven and hell, their have to be people to go to both, God's not going to make it so that everyone will be perfect and all get to heaven.
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if that "god" you believe in really loved you, he wouldn't allow someone to lure you into a place to torment you eternally, now would he? if the "god" you believe in were even one quarter as powerful as they tricked you to believe, he wouldn't have needed to "rest" after creating the earth, would he? I mean he created the entire infinite spread of the universe in a day, but took 6 days to create the earth?? lmao. if the "god" you believe in were so superior and were really everywhere and could see everything, he would have certainly seen satan conspiring and turning against him instead of falling for it like a sucker, now wouldn't he?
the "god" in your story book is either dead or a fool. you believe in a self conflicting control device you pawn. |
I like to see that you think you know what I believe in and I LOVE to see that you're so fucked up in the head that you can't take anything at what it is and is claimed to be and instead come up with a trillion reasons why it's not. Not just this, I mean everything. I also think it's cool that you want to take the bible literally instead of symbolically. I could tear you apart in this argument you're attempting to start but you'll just end up making jokes about me being fat until I decide you're not worth my time, instead, I'll just make that decision now.
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I don't understand why people call Satan the epitome of evil either. I mean, he would've had some reason, being an angel, of going against God. If God is all powerful, the angel would've known the consequences. Or are we supposed to believe the angel is retarded? So when he's cast down, why did he suddenly decide he wants to torture everyone for no reason? If he did torture people, he'd be more like God's executioner than enemy, as God sends people down there. It's like a man giving his girlfriends to his friends when he's done with them.
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That's the answer to everything --- something doesn't make sense because God is testing us, or because he's beyond logic. I think it's more like nature or God allowed us to breed when we were young, and all these supposed "christians" are not teaching their kids to be mature and intelligent at a young age enough to procreate. |
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I'm assuming you're talking to me? cuz I'm not talking to you. and when you're done bitching, realize that i don't take anything at face value. cuz every tree has roots. |
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its so young becuase we needed to fuck like bunnies bk in the day to survive as a species the problem is we are overpopulated now n the age thing is just people controllin, makin lawz to suit themselves they didnt want there kids fuckin wen they twelve so they create laws |
I was targetting this to the christians who believe we were born dominate.
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im happy if your happy believin that, just know that im happy thinkin your the dumbest and most ignorant and most illogical fuck every to speak and attempt to explain their religion |
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Why? Because I don't know what the most powerful and all knowing being is doing at all times and made an attempt at explaining a concept you won't believe because there's no "proof"? Oops, my fucking bad. I must be really dumb. |
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see your deception of God is wrong God is also a judge to now say that you raped someone...do you think it'd be fair for the rapist to just go..no thats why God has to judge you for your sins.... |
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god is also a judge, well, here's what we do know, you can kill someone and never get caught. now here's what you don't know. is there a god that supposedly sees you and will judge you? only thing you have to fall on are your "beliefs" of something you've never seen, heard, felt, tasted, or even experienced anywhere but in your imagination. pretty thin premise to go basing a lifestyle on isn't it? as a side note, you didn't adress any of those "shortcomings" of this would-be perfect being. |
The reason is back in ancient/medievel times, after some of the prophets that lived to be 800 years old, many people died before the age of 40. Now, in that period, you have to learn a craft, raise a family, and be sure your sons and daughters are ready for the rest of their lives. Now considering that most people cannot reproduce until 12, that gives you 28 years (if you get pregnant at that age) to establish a career, raise a family, and prepare your children to be ready for their life.
The only possible way we could survive is by marriage at early ages. This caused the population to grow, and because of modern medicine, we started to live longer but our bodies did not adapt to that. It is believed that cave men did not live past 18 often. So in essence, we needed to reproduce early on. Also, the laws of marriage are man made, not by God. We decided that children should not have children and raise families. Which I agree with no less, we no longer have to have kids so young, so we can enjoy life more. |
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haha your wrong I have felt the pressence of God I've learned I cant serve money and God and Proverbs 16:3 says "Commit to the lord in everything you do and you will be blessed" That there just shows me if I stay strong and commit what I do through him that I will be blessed.. You also have to think Yeah apexx you have a porche,money,clothes all that junk..but do you think it goes with you when you die? Why do those things mean so much to you? Thats Why i store my treasures in heaven rather than earth because the greatest treasure on earth wouldn't compromise for the smallest thing in heaven 1 |
if you act good and believe in god just so you can get nice things in heaven, doesnt that defeat the purpose of religion and finding yourself and all that
truth is most people who go to church etc. and all that DONT do it just cuz its "the right thing to do" and because they truly wanna enhance their soul and just be in the light of god, they do it cuz they think if they dont theyll go to hell and wont get all the nice perty shiny things in heaven im gonna have to agree with apexx though that it seems naive and foolish to base an entire life off of something you have no clue exists, and im sure when i die god will understand that, what is god gonna punish me cuz i didnt blindly believe in every single thing the bible said or quran etc.? isnt that just a dictatorship, if anything i should be rewarded for using my mind to question all of these things, not just be a sheep following whatever some 2000 year old book tells me |
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PT, that stuff you just mentioned means nothing to me dude, that shit's not important to me. whats important to me was my spiritual development, and i've developed it to a level where i'm completed. everything ive wanted to accomplish, i've already done. all this extra stuff is just that, extra stuff. and you saying you "felt the pressence of" god is akin to someone saying they "felt the effects of" a placebo pill. if the mind thinks its real, it becomes real. a book written by man, not god, tells you 'believe everything i tell you, and you will be blessed'. if you allow your self to be brainwashed by that book full of lies and contradictions, then anything inside is gonna seem real to you. and you still keep running from the blatant contradictions of something you still can't verify exists. if your god is so powerful, why did he need to rest? all powerful beings don't need rest do they? money's the root of all evil. yet, your church will gladly take all your money. ironic isn't it? the bible tells you that adam was the first man, and woman came from him. yet, when you're emrbionic, you begin deveolping as a female and growing female parts before you ever even become a male. now...wouldn't it be the other way around if adam really came first? cmon man, the bible wanted us to believe that women menstruate because of eves "original sin", yet down the line we've learned that women menstruate because its integral to puberty and they wouldn't be able to ovulate without it. the same applies for gravity. at one time religion wantedyou to believe that god is what kept you down on this planet. yet newton discovered that it's actually a force called gravity. and the list of blatant contradicions goes on and on and on and on. pull your head out the sand. if you're as brave as you say you are, look the truth in the face. look the truth in the eyes and say that the facts are lying and the bible is telling you the truth. put the non-facts in a higher place than facts, then ask your self how logical that is. |
I know i'm going to be hated and laughed at for what I beleive and what I feel
Jesus was laughed at and hated too But I've realized this life is just a test for whats going to happen after we die simple and plain....people will come up with MILLIONS Of ways to try to attempt to say that God is not real or there is no heaven or hell because of PRIDE I am not brainwashed in anyway Psalm 53:1-3 says: The fool hath said in his heart, "There is no God." Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.    |
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it dont matter what god wants or intends cuz truth is he aint down here making the rules...if theres a god then i'll abid to his rules and expectations in heaven (if thats where im goin hehe). but right now its the rules of the law and those in power down here so thats what i live my life by. if god exists and wants us to get married around the same time we gain our sexual maturity then he better come and say it or is he shy?
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See thats the whole thing
He gave everyone a free will to do whatever they want this life is just a test Im just telling you guys Gods changed my life in more ways then I can account..and It says in the bible not to go back hanging out with the same people and that was problay a major influence on me going back to my old ways..it says your inspired by the people you hang around..but now i've gave up hanging around those people and listening to the same music and for once..i feel GOOD |
notice how they just stray away from the blatant faults the bible have and can never combat the argument, i do believe there is a god, but at some point or another you cannot possibly say the bible is 100% right, science and logic has already proven otherwise
and heaven has got to be the worst place ever if everything is perfect, by that there would be no human traits meaning everyone would just be standing still doing nothing...what an amazing place -_- |
It also says in the bible those who think that they have gained all the wisdom of the earth are really fools
like I said people will deny the fact that Jesus died on the cross simply because of pride and disbelief and Heaven will be all happiness the feeling of love and joy....... |
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they could mean perfect in your perspective of perfect..who knows maybe theres a diffrent heaven waiting for each one of us..its probably like diffrent for each person..if theres a heaven...like if i go to heaven i probably can smoke all i want and never have to worry bout having bad lungs and its perfect cuz i love smoking...or if i would hate smoking then there would be no such thing as a ciggerrette in heaven so it be perfect to me..like heaven is what u see it as...and god wont give a shit as long as u dont have any intentions to do anything god would consider evil...unperfect and evil is 2 diffrent things |
^werd, thats what i was thinking too, it would have to be like that cuz otherwise it would be kind of dull and boring
and past, im not saying i know everything or like science can solve anything, what does jesus dying on the cross have to do with the fact that the bible has a lot of holes in it? lol im not trying to disprove god or jesus i believe in god, and how could you possibly know what heaven will be like unless someone died and came back and said it? how can you life a live based on a book that you have no proof some of it ever happened |
That was the gayest comic I've ever seen. I was waiting for Wolverine to come whip some ass, but instead I was stuck seeing some faggot talk about God.
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The bible is full of mistakes
Your right one of the mistakes was People not accepting GOd there so many people that will try to "disprove" the bible because they want to believe they are there own "God" and there pride Thats all 1 |
i hope you're not gonna try and go on a rant saying jesus is the only god -_-, im not affiliated with any particular religion i wasnt baptised i just believe in a god thats up there whether it be allah or jesus whatever, EVERY religion has holes in it not just christianity and the bible
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Where is there love in other religons?
Dont beleive the "lie" of christianity REAL CHRISTIANS SHOW LOVE the way that Christ did its hard but thats what it is |
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said it all right there. you know, i used to be so deep into christianity it's mind boggling. read the bible cover to cover, was embraced by the pastors at my church, went to retreats frequently, even wanted to be a priest at one point. then an alarm went off in my head when i realized that i had to repeatedly ignore facts and suspend my supreme instinct and "god given" ability called logic in order for me to believe in the things the bible tells me. now that doesn't add up. if something is so powerful as these mortal men who crafted this story claim it is, it would A: all add up, and B: wouldn't contradict since that's not a trait of a fact, and C: would be undenyable. ignoring facts never sat right with me. but then again, neither did burying my head in the sand. |
That had to be the gayest comic I've ever seen, Past Tense.
Disproving God creating us is quite simple. 1.) He is perfect. We are not. You could get into an argument about perfection being unable to create imperfection, but let's go on. Why did he create cancer? How difficult would it have been for him to take cancer out of the world? Why do people get hernias? Why do some babies get messed up in the womb and die? Why is the process of birth so difficult? Why is man able to procreate without problem at a young age, but a woman isn't able to without an increased risk of defects to the baby (perhaps God's way of saying 'fuck a lot of older women when you reach puberty)? If he doesn't want us to lust, why do we lust naturally? Satan? Give me a break. 2.) People believe the chances of life are too difficult, that the chance is far too small, so there must be an intelligent creator. But if you are going to have an intelligent creator, is that not much more difficult than it eventually happened spread over billions of light years loaded with galaxies, which are loaded with stars, which are loaded with planets? Is it not just as difficult that God defies all logic and a perfect being creates itself without any known laws? Now you may say, the origins of the universe are just as insanely illogical as the creation of God, since both came from nothing. But the universe is not perfect as God is supposed to be, and once you deal with such an infinitely complex matter as something from nothing, what we believe is a huge chance (i.e. life beginning) it is fractional to the impossibility presented in the first place. In Layman's terms, say that the difficulty of God/the universe being created from nothing is 1, and say 1 is a huge number. Then, add in the small fraction of life's potential. Compared to this massive '1', this would be, say, 1/infinity. Probably a smaller number, but be sure that it would take a long time to type up '1/10000 (followed by a long, long time of holding down '0'). 3. According to Occam's Razor, and plain logic, there is no point to multiple complex entities beyond necessity. Basically, here is the diagram: God emerges from nothing ---> God creates the universe ---> shit happens ---> life happens There is no need to make it more complicated by including another step. The universe emerges from nothing ---> shit happens ---> life happens 4. Quantum mechanics proposes the no boundary universe --- basically, the universe has always existed. It is immensely complicated, proposed by Stephen Hawkings. So you say, God could always exist. But to build off my other arguments, the universe is not perfect --- God is. The universe cannot create things if it randomly wants to --- God can. So once more we're leaping into stages where our human brains cannot comprehend the figures. And you want to know, if I am wrong and God exists, I have a good chance of not going to hell? Because God has created humans with the ability to perform logic. He has led us on the path of evolution, he has basically said 'go this direction'. Sure, you can blame it on Satan, but Satan did not create this Universe and the potential to question God. God is a scientist --- he has created all of these laws that govern each aspect of our existence. So there are three things: a.) God wants us to think on our own. As I have said, people mature at a young age, and men lose massive amounts of potential children before marriage. Basically, human society has fucked the religious: we cannot marry at a young age, and due to the currency system we are not able to support the family God has given us the ability to create. b.) Satan did it. c.) God wants us to be brainwashed, and being brainwashed is only bad by human standards. |
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PRIDE young ONE PRIDE gotta give it up and HAVE FAITH |
Thanks for reading the argument...
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ya... and because theres multiple other religions that feel just as strong about something completely different. so to tell me that i should "believe" in something with out proof would make me dumb and easily influencial and if i was that easily influence i'd have to "believe" in the thousands of other random religions with out proof. |
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