Just Wondering about Lucifer
 

I was just wondering the other day (I might be completly off, and not have a clue about what im talking about) but, ne wayz... if he made all the bad stuff, of made us sin or w/e, why would he make your burn for internity if thats what he wants you to do, would that make his happy, and wouldnt he like you then, and you just chill in hell and get all drunk and fucked up?.. gimmie some thoughts.

I been askin the same thing for years, I used to go to a catholic school and a priest came by the class and I asked the priest something similar to that, lol everyone in class just stopped and look at me. Anyways his response was that the devil hates everyone......stupid if you ask me

yea i wondered this, i asked my cousin who's real into religion or w/e and he was like that the he just likes to torture everyone it doesnt matter if you're like him or not

which is bullshit imo, guess we'll only know when we die lol

hey it's like this man, the Angel Lucifer diasgreed with god's code of ethics relating to the human body, like sin. lucy felt god created the body and its ability to feel all these things so we as humans should endulge in all things of the flesh to our hearts content. "god's" counterpoint was that the soul is the actual living being and the body is just a vessel. "god" essentually says putting rims on your car while its broken down and continuing to deteriorate is the wrong thing to do. by ignoring your soul and submitting to the urges of your body you allow lucifer to trick you out of your soul which he uses in various ways and for various purposes.

the reason you go to "hell" is because in the time your body is living it up, your soul never finds elevation (resonance onf higher frequencies). so when you die, your soul goes to hell by default by you not nurturing it to the level where it can keep away from hell to begin with. consider hell a pole of a magnet, and "heaven" a pole of a magnet. worship the flesh and you polarize your soul one way. nurture the soul and you polarize it the other way.

yea cuhz Apexx i$ right ....Lucifer doe$n't give 2 fucc$ about nebody likin or di$likin him at all ... afta he di$obeyed God'$ will (i'm not $ure) but it $eem$ like vowed n hi$ heart 2 make all people who God made n hi$ image 2 $uffer all tha dayz of their lives ..that i$ a rea$on y it'z alot of depre$$ion, mental & phy$ical $uffering, pain & nethang el$e that'z not good 4 u ...then when u get 2 hell he want$ every 1 to burn there 4 eternity ju$ $o he can prove God that hi$ will & way i$ betta than tha all Mighty Lord'$

^.....you type like a tard.

heaven doesnt want me and hell's afraid i'll take over

Satan HATES YOU

truthfully it said that One day us people would judge the angels.....and Satan was the go to guy..and when he heard this he was like 'woah woah woah wait hold on a second' which lead him up to wanting to challenge God..and he had such hatred for us because we would one day be above him...

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it's said lucifer was God's right hand angel from the time of his creation to the creation of man...he was the wealthiest and richest angel which lead to him being filled with pride...and when man was created in God's image, the pride turned into jealousy and he let his pride and jealousy of no longer being the twinkle in God's eye take control of him...so he set out to manipulate us into sinning against God,....this led him to being destined to spend eternity in Hell, Hell was made for lucifer and the fallen angels, Hell wasn't made for man initially, but when lucifer manipulated us into sinning, we became destined to die...and thus, since we became filled with sin and thus able to die...we ended up having to go to either heaven or hell...and satan doesn't want us going to heaven, and doesn't want to be alone in hell with the fallen angels, so until his judgement is enacted upon, he has set out to deceive us as much as possible, and since he's already destined for hell, he sees himself as having nothing to lose...that's why he'll even turn on his followers if need be...it's all very complicated indeed....

why would god give more "wealth" or "riches" as you say to one angel? lol, theyre all suppose to be perfect arent they, therefore no human emotions like pride can be shown, if god was perfect he wouldnt be able to be sad, or happy, or do anything, perfection cant create anything because that would need a desire to create something, and desire is a human flaw, not an attribute of a perfect god, so how can you explain this? this being god creating everything, and im not an athiest i believe in god, im just an open minded person and asked this question because some of you think you know everything about god and life and i'd like to hear your answer to this

and past tense when you said "This much is absolutely 100% true - however it is being used in the wrong context and to make a point which is not infact the original intention of the author -"

^how do you know what the original intent of the author was?

lucifer was the wealthiest angel?? where'd you get that hokey explaination, bible programming for dummies?

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze028.html

Ezekiel 28-13
Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

now imagine being covered in all that stuff....if that'snot wealth n riches, iuno what is...and we know the passage was speaking of lucifer cuz the next verse reads...

Ezekiel 28-14
Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

lucifer was a cherub, so we know these verses are speaking of lucifer, and you can read on further on the link bout other things which he let cause his downfall...

ez 28-13 speaks only of what would be clothing or armor, etc. not duckets in hand son. what use does a superhuman being have with money? especially in a time when...... money didnt even exist yet, so how could lucy be the "wealthiest"?

stop preaching your misinterpretation as fact.

actually, i just read a good essay questioning these verses, so i'm willing to retract my posts at this point....i maybe back after lookign into this more...

that could of been an intelligent post if it didnt look so fucked up

Lucifer wasnt the wealthiest angel, he could've been but ive never heard nothing of the sort in my bible, what i have read and learned is that Lucifer was the most beautiful angel. It makes sense in the way he fools people in their minds making something bad appear to be ok, like you can get away with it, making the thought of something bad seam "beautiful" if no other words would describe it, thats the depth of his deciet.

God created the world, but Satan rules it through the sin satan manipulated adam into eating the apple with and the same sin that made adam and eve self conscience about their "naked bodies" as they knew no shame before that. Until the rapture satan can do whatever he wants in his ability which to the extent of i have no clue, but he knows the bible, and knows what will happen to him, and thats why he wants to corrupt the minds of as many as he can so its not only him who burns in the lake of fire that god and jesus cast him into, na mean? lol

...Eve ate the apple.

I like how you say Satan giving humans the knowledge to use logic for themselves = evil. They didn't know shame, and they didn't know anything except what two little pets make.

God and Jesus cast him into the lake of fire? Seriously, that is some sunday school bullshit. Why is it Jesus that does everything, thousands of years before his birth? If Jesus didn't exist it...it was God who cast Satan into the 'lake of fire'. And if Satan was cast into the lake of fire, why was he able to come 'up' and seduce Eve? Or was this before he was cast away?

Wow, son dont know, no offense but he hasnt been cast into the lake of fire yet, that happens after the rapture you noob! LoL

Wow, son dont know, no offense but he didnt manipulate adam into eating the apple, he manipulated eve and then she had adam eat it you noob! LoL



Might want to go back to elementary school grammar lessons, na mean? LoL. That's called past tense, as in it already happened. Future tense would be 'god and jesus will cast him into'.

Na mean?

you guys are in the dark.

Let's turn on the lights in this bitch, holla!

ah fuck it man, just go on believing what you believe.