Anyone wrote/tried/or is writting a book?
 

just wonderin... had this thought in my mind for a while now.. just makin out lines and ideas in a small notebook.. but jst wondering if anyone ever did write a book how long it took to write it? well that dont really matter.. i guess im jst wondering how long it took u to get it published.. cuz getting published is basically like trying to cut a contract with a recording label.

L.E. wrote one that i know of, he knows about that kinda shit

yea i know i talked 2 him bout it.. took him a year to write it and 2 years to publish it.. lol

lol dam, mad long

i tried to write once but i got writer's block so the idea kinda fell to the back of my things to do list...i should start writing again and see how it goes this time

i think nick is....

I, the undeniable literary king, am writing a novel that will touch your brain, heart, and eyes with its awesomeness.

$10 says you lose inspiration half way through and scrap it.

lol hahaha.....................

L.E. wrote one as a part of a trilogy/series... I bought it and read it and surprisingly it was decent by my opinion. However, he has told me that he hasn't received any royalty cheques from it in a while, and due to it being Part One and no other parts have been released to date... I am assuming it didn't sell well and so his others could possibly not make it to the shelves in bookstores.


I am writing a 6-part series.... hoping to get published although nothing is certain. I will do my best, and keep trying until I do. However, a point to note is that you have more chances of being published if you have a trilogy/series because they are easier to market and publishing companies don't start to collect the real money from your talent until the 3rd book. That is coming from a friend of mine who IS published. Although, if your first book tanks then they will just cut their losses there and then and refuse to release the next two. Unless of course you can get a contract down and signed that says they will publish 3 of your books.


If you are planning to write and get published, you need some serious planning. Jotting shit down on a notebook is all well and good, but you may find when it comes to writing you will have various plotholes and shit that just don't make sense at all. I spent about 4 months planning my series... shit from land layout, mini story arcs, overall plot, character profiling and research.
Then, if you haven't got the patience to write a real book, not some 68 page piece of garbage then don't even try. Writing a book takes a lot of discipline and patience, you have to be able to deal with the times where you can sit for about 3 hours and only come up with a paragraph.

The easiest way I found to see if you have the patience and discipline is to write fanfiction first. If you can manage to do that, and get a decent length story going then that shows you have the discipline and patience. It also gives you an idea of how good you actually are at writing before you make an attempt at some original work.

I wrote a 15 chapter Resident Evil fanfiction at first, then I wrote a Soul Calibur fanfiction that went on for like 150 chapters. So all in all, I know I have the discipline and I know I have the talent because of all the reviews I got for both works on fanfiction.net. But, I left that site about 2 years ago and I only do original works now which I post on fictionpress.com.

That is the best approach I can think of to writing a book. If you write, post it up on fictionpress and get owned by constant flaming and shit reviews then chances are it will suck in sales if it got published. That isn't always the case, but think... if it gets rave reviews from people all across the world who use that site... its got a good chance of selling well.

My published friend posted his work on that site, and he had already built up a fanbase for his work before getting published. And even though most of the people on that site had already read it, when it did get published they went out and bought it anyway.

Actually, I've written two novels.

Anyway...it takes a lot of patience and time. You don't want to rush anything, because the novel may dissapoint you or dissapoint others.

If you don't have patience, then don't start.

And a year to write a novel is quick by most standards.

BITCH!! Where is the 2nd one at ??


I have Legend of the Tragic Book One. Where are the fucking rest?


But word to what you said, you do need patience. I aim to finish my first of my 6 part series in a year. I'm thinking a chapter every two weeks. That's like 26 chapters in a year which is around what I am going for. The book will be about 300-400 pages long when its done. As will the other 5 be to. :thumbup:

Lol I started my own publishing company.

When do you want it? :cool:

Lol, when I have some money.

I'll let you know. :thumbup:

Not true, man. You have more chances of being published with a stand alone novel, but it depends on who you ask. Just because your friend is published doesn't make him an expert. Don't know what the hell you're talking about 'collect the real money from your talent until the 3rd book' either. You get money depending on how well-marketed is and overall how good it is. It's not like you have some magical number and you instantly get noticed at the end of your trilogy. Jonathan Stroud became a bestseller with the first book of his Bartimaeus Trilogy, which was more of his debut than his earlier stand alones because it was the one that really got noticed --- but not because it's a trilogy, because it's good.

Most people don't even start to collect the real money until quite a few books in. The only real reason you would possibly get more money from having three books out is because bookstores are more inclined to stock two copies of three books than six copies of one. Nevertheless there is no code to writing, besides doing it well and doing what you can to get out there.

And not using a vanity publisher or self-publisher. - pats L.E. on the back. -

It depends on what kind of book you are writing to how easily you'll get published. A lot of you seem intent on being published in the fantasy genre, which is, at the moment, one of the most difficult genres to get published min because of the immense competition.

There are a lot of incredibly talented writers who go unnoticed for years even though they are published, then for some reason receive a huge boost of popularity and make money.

Some authors strike incredibly lucky by writing a book which is ok at best, spung at worst, but has a very original and challenging concept which makes them sell millions and millions and become rich. Dan Drown is probably the best example of this with his novel 'The Da Vinci Code.' The book started off brilliantly but once they left the museum it seemed to lose conviction and drive and the plot became ludicrous.

It's not all about skill, a lot of it is actually luck but if you are a great writer you have much more chance of being published than a shite writer with a good concept. But having an original concept is extremely important as no one wants to read a re writing of Lord of the Rings over and over again and most fantasy tales involve dastardly evil villains and utterly heroic golden hearted heros. In my opinion the fantasy works are those with balanced characters, who are comprised of shades of gray, and not of black or white.

I'm going to try and take several writing courses before I start writing my book, because I know my concept hasn't been done successfully many times before and if I write it as I know I can then I stand a strong chance of making it successful.

word.. Im trying to write a book jst for fun.. not to get it published.. it would be nice but i just wanna do it cuz writting is fun. I use to write songs n post em here on RV constantly but now I dont have the time and just dont feel it as fun to write music as I use to. Topicals I actually found more fun to write than songs at times because on topicals u dont have to flow with the beat or etc.. topicals depend on how good the you can have the reader imagine ur writting as he reads it. But now I guess since i write almost everyday I just decied to write a story. Dont really have a goal on how many pages but for sure more than 300 pages. And im not even rushing at it. Yea imma be dedicated to it but with my busy life i cant be too dedicated. So far I've wrote about 20 names of characters.. which are not the final names, they are just names im thinking of that could possibly be the characters. Than the plot, land, fighting, etc.. are things that just come up. Im just writting an intro right now and it came out pretty good. not to shabby I'd say but not the best.. Just to see how my writting abilities are and so on. im thinkin of making this book within 3 yrs atleast.. hopefully 2.. but if u rush it it wont come out good. if you take ur time than the book will come out better than as if you rushed it.

No book but i've been working on an rpg for about 4 years now, very in depth script and detailed explanation of the cinematics. It's a 2 person story you can choose to be the guy or the girl and they intertwine deeply. Dope as fuck.

Word man, take your time. I hope to have my first book out this time next year which means I will have to pull some hardcore writing hours. But, if I finish it and read through it and find parts I could alter or remove, or find gaps that would work better with something extra in I will fix it.

If you are trying to write fantasy then you should avoid stories that involve Elfs, Dwarfs, dragons, golden heroic characters with no flaws, pure evil villains... that stuff is all played and won't sell. What sells is gritty realism, tackling world issues in a fantasy world of your making, evil characters who are not so evil, more gray... less black and white, flawed heroes, strong female characters... all this shit sells.

Also, I advise people who attempt to write fantasy to first create their world starting with a basic map. I tried writing without one, improvising on my way and you just end up with too many mistakes. I have a map for my world, finished. I have notes on religion in my world, governments and shit like that. The planning I think is the hardest part, once you've got it down though the writing comes easy.... or at least it does for me.

You can all look for my first book early-mid 2008. :thumbup:

yea, im doing something like medival times but no elves or stuff.. something with magic ofcourse but something original..all mine.. imma create 50 character names and maybe use all of it so I wont think of any ppl while im writting.. I want everything set before I write the book.. i have an intro i wrote jst for fun.. not really what imma use but just wanted to see what my abilities are as a write after reading 10 books in these 2 months lol.. jst so u know the 8 books I read was Eragon, Eldest, harry potter books 1,2,5,6, and chronciles of narnia books 123 and bout done on the 4th one. I'll try to post what I written so far just for fun.. not really connected to what my real story will be but something i did out of boredom.

and yea.. just thinkin bout it... imma really try to include world issues u face in this wolrd that they may have to do in that world.. iono if i'll include slavery on peasants or w/e cuz everyone uses it lol. For sure i'll try to add things a few different towns/cities, kingdoms or something. Ill surely include magic but not too much and not too fancy. and for sure the planning is the hardest part.. But I suggest that no one rushes or try "TOO HARD" on planning it because it wont come out as goood as you would like. Like before I wanted my story to begin in a certain way and now I comletely changed the intro and characters life. Just be different and creative. I also Highly suggest not to at all copy anything like lord of the rings, harrky potter, etc.. Everyone does that, and if you come out new it will have a larger chance for grabbing a larger audience.

what happened to the rest of that story!?!
I've been hooked after readin chapter 1

Yeah tackling world issues is a key factor in selling a book I think. Although most people tend to continue on tackling shit like slavery and racism, both big issues, one from the past and the other present... but they've both been done to death. I like tackling smaller issues that a lot of people can relate to, like one off the top of my head that I will include in my story is a troubled, distant relationship between a father and son, how the son never feels like he is good enough.

And word to copying shit, if your story starts to sound a lot like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter... or basically anything you've seen, read or heard of in your life then take a real good look on how you can change it and be original. I know enough people who have wrote books and had people comment on them saying "another tolkien in the making" and they think that is a compliment, but most times the people mean "you've just re-wrote lord of the rings, congrats!"

I honestly think, or it applies to me anyway that when you get to the writing side... starting the story off is always the hardest part. I've started mine off 4 different ways... I've kept them all just so I can go over them at a later date and see which best suits the story.

I'd have to say the middle is...where you're growing a bit stale of your characters and aren't at that point where the climax is coming up. Starting off a story is not difficult. Begin at a part with action, as close as the most important parts of the story as possible. For instance, instead of giving us a normal day in the life of a merchant followed by a stranger arriving at the end of the day, start at the end of the day when the merchant arrives, despite all that research you did.

^ Yeah, I see your point. It may just be me. I have the most trouble starting and ending, the middle is probably my strongest point.

yea the intro is difficult but the mid and outro is the hardest thing to do. I thought of 3 different intro's all in my head, and wrote down two, and came to one perfect intro within 3 weeks.. well not the pages n crap jst like an outline. I have an idea of what the main parts will be but i aint gonna put it down to final paper because everyday I end up thinking of something better to add..

My story is going to be somewhere around medival times.. i decieded to have some magic in it but not as much as you see or read in other books. Very little at all. My idea was to have a child that had a father and mother die but not like harry potter. His dad choked to death after a great battle in a after battle party and his mother died in a fire . Though it may sound simple I have alot of hidden parts within those two deaths. Example, the father was actually poisoned by this man that has fancied his wife for years. So he poisoned him to get his wife. When he got his wife he began to cheat on her, and when she found out she decided to leave him but he didnt want anyone else to have her so he killed her and made it look like she accidently burned the house down and was stuck inside leaving her son with this man.. but yea thats just a sample of what I have so far.. that might not even be what imma write about.. took me almost 2 weeks jst to think of this but im taking my time, no rush, I might even put it as if his father went into battle and his body was never found. iono lol

and since this is fantasy, I thought of many ideas to insert before the mid and intro. maybe a dog that could tlak lol iono..

Word, sounds vague... but I'm sure you could work it into a dope story.


Mine has multiple storylines that all intertwine with each other and all are pivotal to the entire story. I ain't going to give anything away though because there are word burglars all over just waiting to pounce on a someones ideas.

But, word to my map... the 1st draft basic layout anyway... what I will use to map out my story so I know where I am going with people and shit.



Tolkien can kiss my ass!! :shoot:

That map is dope.

Make me one. I'll even pay you.

A map for what?

Obviously, it couldn't be for something pre-written because I would have to get into your mind to know the kind of layout you are looking for.

Also, if you would want one... would you want an entire world map like all separate continents or whatever... basically something like the map of earth? Or would you like a map of just part of a world, like mine is? And would you like the names of cities, towns and all that shit done, or just a blank map with the geographical side complete?

What are your specifics?

I'll draw a rough copy of the map, and then e-mail it to you.

How much do you want?

Lol, for me drawing you a map. Nothing.

I draw them quite often, never know when I may need a new world for a story or something. I guess you could say its like a hobby.

My main email account is nckfltchr@yahoo.co.uk or you can send it to rapking86@hotmail.com.

Sounds good man I'll get on that tonight. :thumbup:

I still have not received any map.. but then, I haven't checked my email accounts.

Lol I'll get it to you.

Word.

If you get it to me tonight, I could probably have it finished by tomorrow.

I'll work on it right now.

Check out my website, too. :cool:

www.thelockwithin.com

Word to your Biography, lol.


But be prepared my friend, for you have the waters of new fantasy writing occupied right now, but competition is coming in the form of ME!

2008, let the games begin... providing some bitches publish me by then. :)

Lol word.

But really, I don't see other fantasy writers as competition...I just see them as kind of like...team mates in a sense.

^ Well then, word to us being future team mates.