"Gangster"
 

Ok, so you gangsta huh? Word?

Well, i doubt it.

Oh and before you get it all twisted im talking more on the lines of New York ish since thats where im at but

First of all, just because your black, doesnt mean your gangster, and just because your white and listen to 50 cent, doesnt mean it either sorry.

The first actual "Gangsters" as we to this day know them, were the Italians, but before than, im sure we all saw Gangs Of New York, some fact, some fiction. But The Dead Rabbits were a gang in New York City in the 1850s originally part of the Roache Guards. The gang achieved great renown for their organization and prowess as thieves and thugs. The fighting uniform of the Roache Guards was a blue stripe on their pantaloons, while the Dead Rabbits adopted a red stripe. In riots their emblem was a dead rabbit impaled on a spike. The Rabbits and the Guards swore undying enmity and constantly fought each other at the Five Points, but in the rows with the water-front and Bowery Boys they made common cause against the enemy, as did other Five Points gangs including the Shirt Tails and Chichesters. This is partially where this fucking "epidemic" arised from.

Me? Im no gangster, i have to much heart for that, i cant kill someone, unless its self defense, i dont sell drugs because im smarter than that, i can make more workin hard for 10 years than i can make stuck in a fuckin cell for 10 years.

But to recent day, anyone who thinks they can rap, spits about guns and drugs thinks that they are, your not, clothes doesnt define it, the way you talk, none of that shit, just be humble.

Obviously going to be some haters but thats life, i can take critism and hate better than they can take me laughin in their face because i dont give a fuck

Lifes to short for small shit, talk is cheap, yeah i could give a mean grill to everyone i meet and be an asshole like half the population of the world but shit lifes hard enough im just tryna get by'

but, DONT FRONT

-My $0.02

Oh n excuse the ADHD :banghead: :laugh:

But most importantly, DO YOU, if you dont smoke weed dont be talkin like you do in ya raps, and if you dont bust guns, than fine, dont rap about it, sometimes i catch myself doin it to, ill think of real sick line but it doesnt have its part with me so i dont use it, thats bein fake, so word ima stop addin shit lol

Word, I feel you.
No one should actually "try" to be gangsta.
For some, just the way they respond to things and handle situations make them "gangsta" ya dig?
Some people dont try to be gangsta, but are very gangsta and they know it. They acknowledge it by always statin "Im a G" haha
People often say the real G's are dead or in Jail. Thats only partially true. There are alot of real G's out here on the streets. They just havent been killed or been caught by the hook yet. Alot of them will, BUT some of them wont.
Hopefully Im one of the people that wont be killed or locked up. BANG!

^- Yeah shits true but some just say it like they are trying to speak it into being or somethin, i see through all that shit, im not saying a real g cant come to rapverse but the majority that say they are aint, to be fair ill even say half instead of the majority but we all know thats pushin it.. ya kno

You was right @ majority.
Alot of the kids that be talkin tough dont even live 100 miles of an urban area.
Im not sayin living in an urban area automatically makes you tough, but kids that were born and raised in an urban environment are just built differently than kids raised in a suburban area.

suburban gangsters yo...

^^ the class of almost all "gangsters" now a days... I feel you on it.. because really... Ive dont it before, ive made almost a whole cd, started recording it, and completely scrapped it because I was like hold up... I dont touch guns, I have no need. Drugs are like 50 / 50 but Im not a massive coke dealer or anything... I just havent bothered writing anything else yet, im just letting those thoughts n stuff die outta my system so I can actually write..

^- Yeah i hear that, its a broke thing, im white, from New York, not the city though, i live in a town with a bunch of mixed people, im an hour from the city so we have a good mixture of people that take the train up from there for work n shit, its a small town, broke, i live in this placed called "High meadows" on top of a mountain this lil ghetto as trailor park, and yeah it is ghetto, not an old folks place, mainly poor people, i dont care, i rep my shit still im proud no shame cuz shit, cuz im going be out this bitch soon but regardless, its a broke thing, when you broke life aint easy, you fight for shit, to get shit or to defend your own shit, thats what it boils down to, either someone fuckin with you for your gear, your house whatever, all that talk, and the fights from it make you harder is time goes, so yeah im tough, but its not like im like yeah son ima debo your shit, im chill, i protect my shit but dont start shit, thats real

Yeah man, detox that shit lol, na i hear you though its the growth of being an artist and lettin yourself expand from the 'protocol' ya kno? :thumbup:

Dont get it twisted though im not that poor, lol, we got two nice cars in the driveway and the house is pretty decent, not all nasty n shit but times is tough, my dads just a carpenter and my moms a nurse, you know 100k house income on some middle class shit, id love to be some rich white boy from the burbs got i got dealt a diff hand, n that 100k is rounded up bout 20k :laugh:

www.sourcekey.com

try that out haha just watch the video if you can find it on there.. it just seems so scripted and gay....

but i know wat ur sayin bout ur house n stuff.... I just bought myself my own car.. well Ford Escape... but really.. i worked my ass off for it.. and its a sweetass ride... but i appreciate it more because my work paid for it..

If you're raised around an area with a high crime rate and drug dealers and killers, it dont matter if you have a weak mind or not. You will have all of that embedded into you. Its not changing to become them, its becoming them, period. Not literally becoming them, but just knowing it in your mind. Some people embrace that lifestyle, some people dont. The ones that embrace usually becomes the people commitin the crimes and dealin the drugs. The people that dont embrace it are usually the ones that make it out the hood. But even still, just because you make it out the hood and try to lead a good life you will always have that hoddness in you, ya dig?

and the same thing goes vice versa.
If you're raised in the suburbs around grannies plantin flowers and ice cream men smiling and police officers actually helping you and not beatin your ass. And talkin your problems out then you move to the hood, that wont make you hood, because you still have that suburban mentality. YOU FEEL ME?! DO SOMEBODY FEEL ME!?

well i happen to rap...

and never have i said i was a gangsta...

and i never will

Yeah zone right, kinda like how you cant teach an old dog new tricks, growin up around shit almost sets you in your ways, but not always, like where i live has alot of drugs, there are a few old heads pitchin crack but thats only a lil bit and its not talked about as much as everything else, alot alot of coke being sold around here but mainly weed, crime isnt bad here, we had like 1 shooting in the last 2 years, where someone died anyway, mostly robbery, assault, vandilism and drugs, oh and like 3 yrs ago the "town bank" got robbed, funniest shit ever, 2 dumb fuck robbers got lost on a dirt road and got busted

if your not in a real gang, your not a gangster.

^- Rofl, son

Being in a gang dont make you a gangster

Thats like saying you gangsta by affiliation

but than again if being in a gang dont make you gangster, what does? :laugh:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gangster
^^
yes it does

^^^Absolutely incorrect, I am born an raised in the hood an been to hoods all up an down the east coast. An I know tons of dudes born & raised in the hood such as myself an u would never know it unless u asked them. The hood is just a neighborhood, its not who u are. Which brings me to aurora's gangster theme.

Nowadays we got "Thug by Location" niggas, these are the dudes that grew up in the hood but stayed in the house an watched shit pop off from the window but when they leave the hood they quick to tell outsiders "yo, I'm as thug as they come I'm from such & such hood, yall kno how we do." The truth is in most ghettos the large majority are not gangstas/thugs....u got the 20 or 30 so niggas on the corner...then the hundred or so of everyone else. Which be the elderly, middle-aged city workers, nurses, janitors, teachers, school officials, etc. But niggas like to lie an say the hood is a 24/7 war zone..there are dead bodies on the street everyday an every cop is corrupt...dont get me wrong its def fucked up an katz dying young an corrupt cops do exist there but its highly overblown. It really comes down to the individual an how their parents raise them which will determine if the hood will define them or not. an thats real talk....1

Rofl lol i like how you say thug by location, thats why i said everyone in a gang isnt gangster, it all depends on the person and their values for themselves, which gets set in their ways from what they are around if they were around their parents and they were taught well they fine but if you cant talk to your parents like that you look to your friends and whats around you and thats how you get caught up, im not a gangster at all, and im not tough cuz im from New York but i got that Ny mentality and dudes from NY know what im talkin about

^^^^I was born & raised in New York City an been to all five boroughs, all thru long island an upstate to yonkers an albany. Any New Yorkers mentalities vary. The way katz in my hood view things is a polar opposite to kids in Long Island. You find commonalities here an there...but there are damn near 13 million people in New York City alone, its impossible for all those people to have the same mentality.

I hear you, i meant more in a general sense, Ny thinkin diff from Cali, im not talkin specifics cuz none of us think the same but the commonalities as you say is what makes us different from other states and places, New york has a depth that most states dont have n i dont mean population :laugh:

^^^what are you talking about? what depth? what does New York have that other states dont? what is this train of thought that everyone in the state of New York shares? I know people in my own borough that the only thing we share is that we live in New York...there is no common mentality whatsoever. Maybe everyone in your part of NY think alike but in nyc there are as many mentalities as there are streets.

New York has pride and passion, we have history, a deep history, square one for Hip Hop, from the basment parties with Djs and the master cermonies that would rock it. Almost like a swagger we have, maybe not everyone has it, well obviously but still, and some people have it but its not a conscious thing you would just think about like randomly its just who you are. New York has pain, its like a fuckin soul, Louisianna has that Soul but its different their, it bloomed in other ways. Im probably going over your head but its all good, i dont mean just daily life thinking, all humans are alike in nature to a certain extent, i could keep explainin but you wouldnt get it, suprised because you born n raised, im not saying were better than anyone else, were tougher, more "ghetto" richer or poorer but were different, and dont think on the basics of comprehension as you've been with all people are different because i know that, thats common sense

Maybe its just me but its way more than a nas song or a tshirt that says i heart ny, im proud to be a New Yorker :evilgrin:

Triple N stop actin like a douche
its pretty damn obvious what he's talkin about.

im a pinche vato spicca, gangsta az a mafucka, werd

Lmfao@ going over my head...man what u just said is all relevant to hip hop...does everyone in New York enjoy hip hop? You jus said because your proud to be from New York that everyone else from New York is proud to be from New York. Dude NYC has one of the highest rates of residents moving out in the country. Now, u trying to degeneralize it by saying we all dont have a New York swagger, again thats relative to New York Hip Hop....New York is a melting pot of all cultures of the world....u telling that me an abu at the 7/11 across town have the same NY swagger? You telling me that me an former mayor guilliani have the same swagger? You telling me that you an stephon marbury have the same swagger? All that pride in NY starting hip hop an djing u went on about is relative to New York ghettos cuz thats who really started it, when hip hop was being created in the south bronx in the late 70's the rest of New York was discoing they ass off. There is a New York style of rap...but their is no "one" New York persona....Black new yorkers from the ghetto rep NY differently than Italians from howard beach, Puericans from jackson heights/corona rep new york differently than asians in chinatown, arabians in bellrose rep new york differently than indonesians in long island city, I could go on an on. Dude get out of ya small NY town upstate an actually come down to the city then u will truly know what NY is about.

^^lmao, who da fuck says douche?

Triple N, someone who's suppose to have common sense knows that on a site called "Rap Verse" primarily about hiphop the discussion in most topics have some twist with Hip Hop, hence the "Gangster" topic, its a part of HipHop, thats where i was going with the Ny shit, but youre just your run of the mill average joe people or you wouldnt even come at me like that, inside the box thinkin n shit, whatever though, everyone trying to bring new york back but its losin heart, cuz of people like you, its done with, you aint a new yorker youre just a resident son, go move to connecticut with 50

^^^So, now becuz this discussion happened on rapverse its limited to rap-related subject matter? your words was "New Yorkers." New York is made up of FARRRRRRRRRRRRRR more nonrappers than rappers my friend. As well as New York is made up of FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR more nongangstas than gangstas. So, I lack common sense for thinking "New Yorkers" meant anyone who lived in the state of New York? I'm jus a run of the mill average joe thats ruining hip hip becuz I misinterpreted "New Yorkers" for "New York rappers & fans?" WTF are u talking about man? u on some children shit, when a child cant articulate his/her thoughts they resort to calling names. If u feel like returning to an adult level with your replies hollaback.

haha
I thought about that after I posted it
lol

i dont even give a fuck bout being gangsta i'd rather not be a gangsta rapper cuz that means im just another rapper..im nowhere neat gangsta and im proud cuz i can reach a WAY more bigger audience being me...a majority of the people are nowhere near gangsta so they'll connect..thats where the genious of the old eminem was..he rapped bout his problems with his mom and his girlfriend..and his love for his daughter..being bullied and picked on at school..living in a trailor park..being the only white kid..ALL of that..and thats why he was so big was by being himself...

me so far im just focused on my rhymes and writing im not even recording no more thats gonna be outta the picture for a while and it has been..im focusing on what to say and how ta put it and i need ta focus on other things in my life right now before i refocus heavily on rap again but when the time comes im going to reach an audience that lives the same typa life i lead and has the same views...thats for every kid who isnt gangsta and im sure theres some aspects in my words that reach people living the gangsta lifestyle too just not as heavily..but if im successful im gonna reach a BIG ass audience

Im 10000% positive that all them nerdy white kids listenin to 50 cent is NOT gangsta
And you are one of the biggest Tupac fans EVER, is he or is he not, "gangsta"?

Im sayin Dipset all day, i just love the music harlem put out, ever since Big L

just cuz 2pac or 50 cent is gangsta dont mean u have to be gangsta to listen to it..u might not connect as much but u arent neccassarily a wannabe just cuz of what u listen to...im mostly a 2pac fan cuz of what he had to say and what he was about (besides the thug life) i aint just a fan because of his music just of what he stood for...if you was to watch scarface even though u aint a gangsta whos to say you cant watch it and like it??? i dont see people comparing people's lives to what movies they like to watch so why do ya'll do that with music...so what if i like 50 cent or 2pac or a "gangsta rapper" how does that make me even think im gangsta??? and tell u the truth i connect wit eminem's music more

By your definition of a gangster... i would fall under the gangster catagory.... ive done everything youve stated accept kill someone.. ive shot people but never killed anyone... and i have no problem talking about it becuase i cover my prints.. ya dig..

You hoe face.
You basically proved the point that I was trying to make
Geez, you're pretty damn slow.

yea well it sounds like u have a problem with anybody who isnt gangsta listenin ta "gangsta rap" not everybody who isnt gangsta is a nerdy white kid. and it sounds like ur trying ta make me out ta be a "nerdy white kid" cuz i listen ta 2pac who is a thug...im not proving ur point..u stating that if u aint gangsta ur a nerdy white kid or some shit im sayin anybody can listen to "gangsta rap" and they shouldnt be accused of being anything because of it

Yall all are making yourselves sound stupid.

the fuck even cares. let people say what they say. this is the internet. it's not like i can roll up and fck this guy up for false claiming my set. so the fuck do i even care ?

yall should be worried about making those soundclicks and myspace links in all your sigs worth fuckin clickin. instead of consistently trying to "burn" kids on a fuckin message board.

damn. and what's sad is. everyone you go on the net now is like that. jesus. everyone just grow the fuck up and shut up.

^^who's trying ta burn who...we just disscussug shit arguing doesnt necassirly mean everyones getting pissed at each and pulling out gunz and shit we just going over our diffrent views and opinions...DRRR!!!

and yes white nerdy kids do listen to 50 cent but white nerdy kids aint the majority of 50s fanbase...a majority of 50 cent's fans are most likely black or gangsta because 50 is speaking for people like them the "nerdy white kids" just listen to it cuz its catchy and sounds cool...but if someone comes out speaking on those "nerdy white kids" lifestyle then those nerdy white kids are gonna be that rappers target audience and he's gonna catch there attention more than 50 does...i never said i connect wit 2pac the most he just makes good music and talks on alotta real shit whether i live the life he's talkin bout or not he's speaking the truth...but he aint my all time favorite rapper

Shut yo pussy ass up, nigga.