300 (for those who's seen it)
 

ummmm.........what?

what the hell happened to the Persians? out of nowhere the Spartians are fighting the BARBARIANS?


ummm....ok.

am i missin somethin here?

Do you mean the Immortals in the masks? The Immortals were the elite of Xerxes and named because their number never went under 10,000 because there were always people to replace them. I don't know what you're talking about, they don't fight any Vikings. Vikings were across the world, and they weren't really even prominent during the time of the war, I don't think...If so, a few had been conquered and annexed into Xerxes' side, because he had conquered quite a few nations according to the movie.

what you see are the armies of the conquered nations under xerces rule

i thought it wuz gonna b sum realistic shit. then theres those burn victim lookin muthaphukkaz n shit. kinda weird. n who tha fuck makes a hole that big? (when they pushed those Persians in there at tha beginin) i thought it wuz gonna b sum shit that actually happened b4...

i dunno man... werd

You didn't see many of their faces. I believe it was only one Immortal whose face you saw. They may have undergone a strict treatment possibly even worse than the Spartans. This particular person may have simply been a burn victim, or maybe some people have to make some sacrifice to rise in the ranks of the fictional Immortals in the movie. For instance, some of them may have cut out their eye --- this could be an entrance into manhood and so awe-inspiring they may become a general. You can tell they're used to that kind of shit because they don't look shaken at all by the wall of dead bodies.

And who makes a hole that big? It's obvious. That's how they traded with China.

i heard that last shower of arrows actually happened too, but that the king died in the middle of battle he didnt last till the end, but that someone else got that shower of arrow treatment

Yup. They were surrounded and all the survivors got killed. Still, of course they're going to keep Leonidas until the end.

man im talking about at the end after Leo gets the merksauce. werent the persians supposed to invade Sparta?

i KNOW they aren't tryin to say a village of women children and fuckin politiians overthrew Xerces million man march

they skip right from the scene were popeye is tellin the story to evrybody in sparta straight to a battle with the vikings 10,000 strong a year later.

The reason that only 300 muhfuckas fought is cause the rest of the army wasn't ready to go to war yet...

What happened is Xerxes was afraid there are more Spartans waiting around for an ambush, and they were just as strong as the 300. Eventually he did march in, and Xerxes burned down Sparta and Athens and all the rest. The battle at the end I believe was the Battle of Marathon, where the story of Nike came from. It wasn't the full force of the Xerxes army, and I'm quite sure it wasn't just the Spartan army either. The Greeks barely had shit for armies because they had been in a state of civil war for many years, and eventually banded together for a common cause. Xerxes was eventually repelled not from land forces but in a navy force where his fleet went against an Athenian fleet. It was rather like the 300 spartans, because they basically channeled the Persian army into a very small area of water, and had rams attached to their smaller, more manueverable ships. They ended up battering the shit out of the Persian fleet, taking out something like 1/4th of the fleet. Xerxes retreated.

And there were no fucking Vikings. Wikipedia it if you want the true historical account. Though it doesn't seem like it, the movie is actually a bit historically accurate, but there are quite a few gaps in it. It would've been a much longer movie and not called 300 at all if it focused on the rest of Greece. It was a movie centered upon the Spartans at the Battle of Thermopylae and the inspiration to the Greeks, NOT Xerxes and his invasion.

Anyway, I may have a few facts mixed up. Wikipedia it if you're really interested, and yes, wikipedia really is a reliable source in the matter.

This was a movie about the Spartans, not Xerxes vrs. Greece. Part two may be about the Battle of Marathon, and there would probably be a few interesting scenes with the Athenians if they focused on what the Spartans called 'boy lovers and philosophers' in the beginning of 300. (I DID see the movie only once, but I have a good memory). Ships versus Kraken or sea monsters or whatever on Xerxes' side, perhaps. The Battle of Marathon. Things like that.

Wait, what the fuck am I talking about...The Battle of Marathon was with Darius, Xerxes' father.

Anyway, look at this shit, dude. One person names Xerxes' army as 2,641,610 men. Another says 5,283,220 men (along with support troops). Another says 800,000. Some say 300,000, some say 175,000...



Big ass army, either way. Greece was in total ruin from warring between itself. I think the Athenian navy had been completely fucked over by attempting to attack Athens or some other place, and ended up getting fucked over by Aristotle's hypothetical cannon or something.

Anyway, if you're interested --- and it is a really interesting war --- check it out more.

The battle at the end is the Battle of Plataea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Plataea). 10,000 Spartans, 30,000 other Greeks.

From wikipedia:



Aka, Persians got FUCKED IN THE ASSHOLE.

Where the fuck is the Athenian navy battle from...am I mixing up Darius and Xerxes again? The other battle was The Battle of Mycale that same day, which also owned the Persians.

LMAO dude shut the fuck man, you got no idea wtf you're talkin about lmao. yo A: none of the shit you're rambling about happened in the movie, and that just happens to be exactly wtf we're talking about here - what happened in the movie. and B: they reflect back on the battle at marathon in the course of the movie so how the fuck are they fighting the same battle of marathon AGAIN at the end??

did you even see this movie man?

LMAO please shut the fuck up man and stop tryin to look like you know wtf you're talkin about cuz you read some highschool historyclass crap on wikipedia rofl

I just fucking said the Battle of Marathon was with Darius, who was Xerxes' father who did the exact same thing as Xerxes, leading Xerxes to follow in his father's footsteps to try conquer Greece as well. I admitted the battle they fought at the end was Plataea, not Marathon. It was in essence almost the same thing --- a mixture of Greeks repelling the Persians, though Marathon was not a decisive battle. Excuse me for mixing up two battles out of thousands in history, especially when they were so similiar.

Darius = Persian King with a large empire trying to invade Greece, was repelled by a ragtag group of Greeks.
Xerxes = Persian King with a large empire trying to invade Greece, was repelled by a ragtag group of Greeks.

You're trying to ask if I saw the movie, when you're the fucking person saying they fought Vikings, which lived far away in Scandinavia many centuries later? The shit I said didn't have to happen in the movie, because the movie was about THE SPARTANS AND THE INSPIRATION THEY HAD ON THE GREEKS. I was explaining how it wasn't a million man march only with Sparta in the way, and then the children and politicans and women didn't hold off the army for a year.

What you said:



Sorry for trying to fucking clarify on the war with Xerxes. Carry on with your stupid ass questions about why the Spartans were battling Vikings.

yeah? Crazy Hades: The battle at the end I believe was the Battle of Marathon

LMAO so there goes your dumbass excuse. once again... stfu.

dude im talkin about the fight they had AT THE END OF THE MOVIE. i'd have to be a tard of your level to think they were fighting anybody but the Persians during the movie.

and add to that i corrected Vikings to Barbrians. And it still doesn't explain the transition of what the hell happened and how they ended up fighting a completely seperate army at the end when we didn't see what happened with that army they were invloved with THAT THEY WERE LOSING TO!!.....sooooo wtf happened, Xerces said " ahh fukkit, im goin home"??

holy shit man. dude just do your self a favor and shut the fuck up rofl. go read more wikipedia and shoot from the ass

During the movie they were fighting the Persians, just thought I'd clear that up.

Lmao, but nah, I have no idea what the fuck you guys are talking about.

Yeah, I corrected myself because I had one error between similiar battles. LMAO so there goes your dumbass strawman argument. once again...stfu.



Yes, and so am I. And guess what? They were fighting other conquered people than the Persians, mixed into the Persian army. But they sure as fuck didn't fight Vikings.



Alright. You'd look less like a hypocrite if you didn't criticize me for mixing up two battles after you mixed up two people.



The Battle of Placaea happened much later in the war. We didn't see much of Xerxes' one million men in the battle. We see shadowy rows of archers lining the shore, people marching, a group of people on boats being smashed in a storm, etc. The people at the end could've been another piece of the army sent elsewhere to deal with other enemies, won, and returned. There are plenty of reasons for them fighting different looking people if you actually used your fucking head.

lmao, mimesis you bastard.

yo man, according to the movie what did Xerces do after he killed the spartan army? dissapeared? cuz a year later those wild and crazy guys are onto some other shit.

That wasn't the Spartan army...that was three hundred people lead by Leonidas. Hence the entire plot of the Council and the Queen attempting to get them to mobilize the Spartans.

I don't know, I only went to watch dudes catch some swords with their faces. Have you tried wikipedia?! Rofzlflzfzl, jokes yo!

Oh shit, son! Excuse me for using a website sourced by accounts of Herodotus and people that know a shit load more about history than RV cats. But it is wikipedia, and everyone knows all of the people who edit on wikipedia are ten year olds, not people that actually know anything.

no dude. you said the battle they had at the end of the movie came before the one they were having the whole movie, which is just flat out fucking stupid. at the end they're talkin about a new battle with the barbarians and you're saying they're having a prior battle with the persians lmao what a testicle.

blah blah blah man, what you're saying is a complete waste of time, cuz you're still rambling on about shit that's got jack shit to do with the movie.

Wikipedia is a bullshit source, son. I could make an account and go change everything. There are so many factual errors on wikipedia. You don't know how old the people are who edit the entries, but age is irrelevant regardless.

And I corrected myself. How hard is it for you to fucking understand I mixed up one battle with another, after you just mixed up Vikings with the barbarians at the end of the movie? And if you paid any attention instead of scanning over arguments and focusing on one error I corrected before you pointed it out, the shit I said in that post was completely about the movie.



I know more about this shit from sources other than wikipedia. It's the only thing I have on hand right now to show. Anyone can make any website, and the other place I have to back my facts up is the internet unless you want me to send you some ebook versions of translated historical accounts --- but wait, those are translations and may be wrong, and since they're ebooks the person might've made a typo, so we can't rely on it.

Any source I show you on the internet has the possibility of being incorrect or used to give out false information. Wikipedia is a site maintained by many people, and as hard as it is to believe, not everyone on there is a vandal.

right.




so what happened in the movie after Xerces merked the spartans.

A year of warfare.

The army met at Plataea could've been sent elsewhere during the Battle of Thermopylae and returned during the year of battle. It's not like the entire Persian army was present every single charge. It is mentioned Xerxes is a self-stylized God and he has conquered many, many lands, getting exotic animals like massive rhinos and elephants. It's not hard to imagine the army you're seeing then is part of it. There may be other Persians on the way to the battle and all you see then is the initial confrontation of that specific army and the Greek army.

All you can do is speculate, since it is a fictional account of Plataea with less than a minute of anything shown in it. I was posting the info earlier in case anyone was interested in what happened between the gaps in the movie in other places, or what happened after the movie. It wasn't specifically designed toward you, even if I did quote you.

whoa wtf?
yall niggas is foolin
Imma sum it up for you


300 is about Leonardius and 300 of his best men holdin the Persian army off.
During the entire movie all them groups of people he was fightin was different factions of the persian army.

At the end of the movie, Leonardius wife convinced the rest of Greece to go to war.
Thats when the full fledged Greece army met the full fledged Persian army at the end of the movie.
The 1 soldier that Leonardius told to go home was the one tellin the story, so how did he know Leonardius died the way he did? lmao
but anyway.. there were no vikings.. Vikings are from Scandinavia.. and there were no barbarians.. barbarians are mostly nomadic villages of savages pillaging and wreckin anything in their way

^lmao.

another one.

look man, at the end of the movie they state they're about to take on the Barbarians. That's who the opposing army was at the end. if i didn't already delete the file i'd record the scene so you know whats goin on

I believe he's asking why they waited a year to fuck Sparta up?

^basically.

but nobody knows, just shooting from the ass.

I told you...because it's pretty goddamn obvious there are more than Spartans in Greece, and there were more than two battles in the war. Not that difficult to understand. All you can do is pull shit out of your ass when the movie is a fictional version of the war. If you want to know, since you won't let people tell you, look at the war itself.

what your dumbass im-hungry-to-look-right self doesnt understand is im not talking about the historical account of the battle, im talking about THE MOVIE!! THEIR EXPLAINATION you fuckin dumbass

holy shit man is it really that complex for you?

There IS NO FUCKING EXPLANATION IN THE MOVIE. If you use your fucking head, you'll realize there are more than two battles in a war --- you shouldn't need to fucking have the movie explain that to you. Is that too complex for you? If you actually read what I said, you'd see I was saying there wasn't an explanation in the movie.





You shouldn't fucking say shit is too complex for someone if you're too dumb to read and comprehend what I'm saying in the first place.

clown, the movie makes no connection between the two battles. there's no refference, there's no inclinaton or anything that they're connected. and that's exactly what this thread is about. there is no explaination in the movie, i said it, you say it, then wtf are you arguing for?

you wanna talk about history and read between the lines and assume shit that wasnt' there and all this other shit man, hardcore hungry to look right about...

guesses.



hang yourself

A connection between what battles? Thermopylae and Plataea? That the battle itself was Plataea? Are we still on the original topic of 'why did Xerxes not continue on and fight Sparta'? Elaborate.

dude im talkin about the battle they were having the whole movie and the battle they were going into at the end. so with that context in mind, re read this.. then still hang yourself.

clown, the movie makes no connection between the two battles. there's no refference, there's no inclinaton or anything that they're connected. and that's exactly what this thread is about. there is no explaination in the movie, i said it, you say it, then wtf are you arguing for?

you wanna talk about history and read between the lines and assume shit that wasnt' there and all this other shit man, hardcore hungry to look right about...

guesses.



hang yourself

Okay, so you're saying there is no connection between the battle at the end of the movie and Thermopylae in the movie? Are you fucking retarded? Except for the fact that Dilios (the guy with the fucked eye that went back to the Council) says to the army at the end that the Persians were unable to hold back 300 Spartans, they must be scared as shit to be facing ten thousand Spartans and many other thousands of soldiers from other places in Greece? Leonidas sent Dilios back to Sparta to tell the Spartan Council how easily they dominated the Persians until the betrayal at the end, and the sacrifice the 300 made. The entire subplot of the movie with the Queen was so that they could rally up the rest of the Spartan army up for battle instead of giving into the peace offerings of the Persians. At the end, which happened a year later, they brought up the Spartan army and confronted the Persians at Plataea, with Dilios as commander. Not only are there Spartans there, but many other Greek armies are present. Use some logic. I would tell you about the Battle of Salamis which happened before and other battles the Spartan army were at before Plataea, but you wouldn't care because they're not movie canon and you need to be spoonfed. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that you're seeing only part of the army of Xerxes or it has been decimated through constant battling (the Spartan Dilious, in the movie, mentions they are fighting 120,000 Persians at the time). But no, you seem to think the movie wants you to believe the Persian army sat down for a year, had some tea, and slept until the Spartans and the other Greeks rallied up an army. The reason they showed Plataea is because that's when the army of Xerxes was permanently beat out of Greece.

But no. Because this isn't specifically mentioned in you movie, almost eight hundred thousand Persian soldiers disappeared, and there were two battles in the war, because you refuse to read between the lines.

"Here on this ragged plain of Plataea, Xerxes' horde faces obliteration. Just there, the barbarians hover. Hear terror ripping tight, their hearts, with icy fingers, knowing full well what merciless horrors they suffered at the swords and spears of the three hundred. It is here now, across the plain, ten thousand Spartans, commanding thirty thousand free greeks...HOOO! The enemy outnumber us a paltry three to one. Good odds for any Greek."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LMCk54QU...related&search=

The quality isn't good so you can't see the opposing force, if indeed that is what you are seeing for that four seconds when you look over Dilios' shoulder. He calls them barbarians, because of course you're calling to call your enemy names, and call them pathetic. The word itself has connotations of dirty invaders trying to destroy your way of life. And even if there is a completely different army there, you refuse to listen to what I say just because it isn't in the movie, because it doesn't need to be in the movie because it's COMMON SENSE.

I would tell you how, after the Battle of Salamis, Xerxes returned to Persia and gave control over to Mardonious, but you wouldn't care. I'd tell you how the Peloponnese were being attacked and the Spartans watned to remain there but were eventually moved out, but you wouldn't care, because the movie didn't spoon feed it to you that other battles had occured. It's funny how you're all over RV telling people to think for yourself, but you expect to sit there gaping dumbly at the screen unable to figure out simple shit like armies (especially the size of Xerxes') do not stay in one place together, and that plenty of battles have occured.

Now, predictably, you won't answer any questions, and you'll repeat what I've already proven wrong.

Hang yourself.