god is in you...
 

so god is you, so if u beleive in yourself u will have a great life. same wit havin jesus in your heart, meaning if u have faith in yourself you can do anything god and jesus are just metaphors to get people to believe in themselves and create heaven on earth, not in our after lives.

Oh, word. Kinda.

True. Although, God is in you doesn't really describe it well... It's more like God IS you, but if you say it like that people will feel more important, which they shouldn't, because while God is you, there is also nothing that God isn't.

Yah good point this is tight inspirin and stuff!

yes, i said "god is you". u musta missed that. but ya god is everything too. meaning get to believe in anything you want. my favorite saying is "everything is nothing and nothing is everything" b/c u can choose to make anything u want a big deal or it could be absolutely nothing, and neither choice is wrong as long as u know that theres a choice there that everyone is allowed to make for themselves. i wish everyone knew that. damn

God is in you and God is around you looking after you BUT you are NOT God...Man was made in Gods image we are not Gods...to say we are Gods goes against the First Commandment because God says HE is God and you shall have no other Gods before him.

god is everything though, god isn't a person who created us, us being created is god. anything and everything is god and is as dope as the next thing so putting anything above another is the road to hell and never havin heaven on earth. knowlege and respect is heaven. not puttin anything or anyone over another is heaven.

God is everything?

God is war ?

God is gay?

God created man in his image and created Woman to keep him company, but the study of birth shows us that everybody is a female when they are a fetus, until their gender is decided by genetics and they grow a penis?

God is the all knowing being, and of course, he MUST represent everything, considering no ONE knows the end of human life.

If I could ask God a question, I wouldn't. Knowing it could be a lie.

War isn't God/The Universe, war is stupidity.

Gays aren't God/the universe, they just don't have sex with women.

Female and Male mean nothing. Both are equally as important as eachother, they might as well be considered one organism instead of two. A fetus does not have any features of a female besides not having a penis.

When questions are provided to prove a point, I don't think answering them is either funny or smart.

Well, the questions didn't prove your point, since God isn't those things.

Wanna know the funniest part?


That was my point. :thumbup:

Your point is completely unclear.

- Is the second last paragraph sarcasm or not?
- How could God lie if your point is God isn't a being?
- Why is there a question mark after God is everything if that was your point?

Is your point that God is everything, or that if God was everything he wouldn't be wars and gays? If it's the former, you are bad at expressing yourself. If it's the latter, God isn't wars and gays so your point is incorrect.

My point is obviously either too deep or too shallow for your un-attempting mind to comprehend.



Now, USE YOUR FUCKING HEAD and the rest will make sense.

My point is: God is Not Everything.

Now, if it's the former, You can suck my fucking cock and spit.

If it's the latter, You can suck my fucking cock and swallow.

Shut the fuck up.

Well, God is everything. That's what I'm trying to say. God is everything, but not every thing. Dividing the universe up into things is useless, and the universe is not a combination of every thing and event.

Things are just units of measurement similar to inches, they don't actually exist in the universe. Why do you think they call thinking thinking? It's thingking, thingifying the universe into parts so life is a little bit easier.

So see through the separateness of every thing, and then you'll see how God can be everything.

"That's what I'm trying to say"

Then you shoulda said it from the fucking start instead of attempting to make me look stupid as if I could possibly be wrong in what I was 'getting @'

I wasn't attempting to make you look stupid, I was trying to talk to you and show you that you were wrong in saying God isn't everything just because God isn't war or gays. Wasn't it you that was trying to make me look stupid since my first reply to your post? Do you feel better about yourself yet? If not, you can keep insulting me if you like.

but god is every thing, becuase anything we do since we are god is creating more god, like how god created us. becuase some people like war and are happy killing people, just those same people dont respect or acknowledge how others want nothing to do with it. we (as gods) need to us are god given abilities to respect and learn everything about every thing and creat heaven on earth, ya dig

I always thought we couldn't create anything. War and homosexuality and other things like that aren't God because they are just labels given to things that don't actually exist in the real universe. If you make a table, you're not really creating anything, you're just moving a tree into the shape of a table and moving some ore into the shape of nails/screws to hold it together. We can't turn earth into heaven by changing it, we can only turn this life into heaven internally. They might not even know it but most people are in hell. We can't learn everything about everything, and we can't know what another person is really thinking or feeling, it's all just speculation. We will never know, and you have to accept that.

It's right here, the place where suffering no longer exists. There is nothing else to do but be in the moment. Once you're in heaven, one of the clearest things to you will be other people's suffering, and naturally you'll want to try and help them.

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werd, but how some people living are in hell right now; the opposite is that some people are in heaven. we just are to disrespectful and ignorant to allow everyone to live in heaven here on earth. i absolutely think heaven could be on earth. and werd that whole tree into a table thing makes more sense to answer the whole war and homosexual thing. because its peoples will that makes them do the things they do and thats always speculation, but if everyone respected each others speculations everyone would be living their own heaven on earth.

That's the thing, it's all up to the person. You can't force people to be in heaven, they have to do it for themselves. You can point them in the right direction though. And if a person is in heaven, that person is still in the universe and is not separate from the universe. Their existence affects the world and the people around them in a good way.

werd, and heaven is just a simple mind set that could be taught very easily if there wasn't so much religion and stuff separating us.
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could be easily taught because just making sense and not lying would overcome everyones differences. just speaking truths in laymen terms instead of this crazy higher purpose mumbojumbo religion always talks about.
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heaven and hell is right now, not after u die.

A new, more wordly-accepted Religion needs to be accepted and adopted if we are ever to achieve your common dream of being united, BP.

All it takes is views that far outshine any bibles or Religion's, LABEL it a Religion, sell it as one, and it needs to be so utterly ingenious that respected scientists look up to it as a version of 'new world'... In my opinion the world needs to be re-born or no one is gonna pay attention to government business and some rich monkey moron is gonna actually fire his missiles at any given country. Hopefully it's America just so we'd WAKE UP to how dire the earth situation is in terms of belief.

Hope is one thing, but World Order through Peace is an entire different team work of aspects...

sorry for rambling @ you.

Teru, get into this conversation and be as harsh as possible

its funny u said "new world" because in revelations in the bible talks all about how that is the devil, the so called "new world order" and the "mark of the beast" and the "anti christ". i need to read that chapter and try to sort through the crap.

I'm not the anti Christ.

I'm just a boy with visions :)

thats not what religion says if u act on your visions in a great way

There is such a religion already. It is the religion of no religion. I grew up as a Christian and also did some Theology, and I never ever understood Christianity at all, my views were completely foolish and based on nothing except what people told me was the truth. As soon as I let go of Christianity and started studying other religions, I started seeing the real purpose of religion.

Any real religion will have at it's core similar teachings. This excludes fabricated religions made by selfish or foolish people. The first religion that really opened my eyes to all of this was Zen Buddhism. It was the first religion I had come across that was completely open, tradition and regulation is not important, and anything that has survived throughout it's history is due to it having a good use. There are no empty rituals. It is known as the religion of no religion because it includes getting rid of misconceptions of everything including the idea of religion. There are no boundaries, no you go to hell or suffer if you don't believe in it. There is so much respect, love and peace, given to others. This story is a perfect example:

A university student while visiting Master Gasan asked him: "Have you ever read the Christian Bible?"

"No, read it to me," said Gasan.

The student opened the Bible and read from St. Matthew: "And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow. They toil not, neither do they spin, and yet I say unto you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these...Take therefore no thought for the morrow, for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself."

Gasan said: "Whoever uttered those words I consider an enlightened man."

The student continued reading: "Ask and it shall be given you, seek and ye shall find, knock and it shall be opened unto you. For everyone that asketh receiveth, and he that seeketh findeth, and to him that knocketh, it shall be opened."

Gasan remarked: "That is excellent. Whoever said that is not far from Buddhahood."

In studying Zen, the Bible made complete sense to me. Hinduism, other kinds of Buddhism, Judaism, and I'm sure many other religions that I don't know of are just different paths to the same thing. Enlightenment, Satori, Nirvana, Heaven... All the same. Dukkha, Hell, Samsara, the world of suffering... Also all the same. There is a core aspect in all these religions, that is not clear to most people because of the way the religions developed.

Throughout history, there have been fools in important positions in many religions that add negative things to them and ruin the understanding of everybody in the future. The most prime example of this is Christianity in the middle ages.

There can never be a worldwide religion, because people are clingy, reluctant, foolish and skeptical. They have no idea what they are doing. I mean look at me, what the hell am I saying? What I am proposing here could just be the outline of the next religion that people start clinging to and ruining. It could also be wrong, I could have misunderstood something. What is my real intention here? Am I trying to help people or am I being selfish and trying to be above people? I don't even know.

The truth is not something that can be told to someone or found in a book. Religion is a tool, a means rather than an end. It is a signpost pointing to the truth, God, reality, enlightenment, the Tao, the Universe, whatever you want to call "it." It's like a raft you use to cross a river. There are many different styles of rafts, some are humble things made of bamboo and rope, some are small boats made of wood, others are majestic cruise ships, but they are all designed solely to help you cross the river. Once you are at the other side, you have no need for the boat anymore and carrying it becomes a burden.

Some explore the other side while dragging their rafts, and then discover the raft is unnecessary and can let go of the burden. The people who chose to cross in big cruise ships have it harder because they can't even explore and learn, they are too attached to their ships. If they decide to stay on their boats forever, the river will sweep them out to see and they will become lost. All they can do is cling to their boat until they die.

so does Zen Buddhism put a teacher in the book above its learners and use confusing metaphors to teach basic and essential knowledge? or does fooling with this religion make reaching enlightenment faster and more useful with out having to hold onto a "big ship" once "crossed the river" to the goal of enlightenment?

Zen puts everyone equally. There is no division between student and teacher except the division that is already there. Like in any other religion, there are bad teachers of Zen and good teachers of Zen. A good teacher of Zen can know your understanding of life by talking with you or being around you, and thus will know what to do to help you get to heaven.

What confusing metaphors are you talking about?

I'm not saying Zen is the "right" religion. It won't get you anything faster than anything else. It depends on the person. You can't do it expecting it to get you enlightened faster than say, Hinduism. If you are a person like that Zen will just confuse the shit out of you and try to break down your misconceptions with things like unsolvable riddles that you have to solve. Which is a good thing.

People can let go of any ship they use to cross the river. I'm just saying that the more there is to get attached to, the harder it will be to leave your ship/religion behind once you reach the other side. Also, if you get swept out to see and lost, it's easier to cling to a large cruise ship like Christianity until you die, than it is to other religions. Especially when the driver is telling you that if you stay aboard the ship, they will eventually get to land.

Take every Religion, take EVERYTHING good out of them that makes people happy to be alive/have hope (except false beliefs that contradict), throw them all in one big book with add-ons of future World health, Human expansion, Belief in all Unknown because There is No Evidence disproving it (All theories of the Universe added and dealt with as Possibilities until proven wrong) how to do it, make it simple and natural, so easy to comprehend (words may not riddleth.) and don't allow it for kids under the age of 10. Make it so completely agreeable with that everyone except those people with those big boats follows it for the sole ingeniousness, glory, connection, and purpose of the teachings that celebrate peace & happiness, but mostly Human Growth in an un-hostile world.

No one is better than any other (money aside also) And.......... I don't know if any of you would agree with this but... I believe Democracy is failing us here in America. a Government created BY the people FOR the people is holding information FROM the people so WE don't tell enemies OF the people decided BY the government FOR the people. And that's one of the hundreds of problems with our system today.

I believe the country should be ran BY the people (essentially and extremely, fully, no inbetween hand-in-hand working with the government), I think there should be three buildings (or something along that line) built all across the U.S. with connections to eachother where U.S. citizens can volunteer to go into and advise/make decisions with other U.S. citizens based on popular belief, and that the only people getting PAYED to help run the country would be the people watching and making sure no one is saying crazy shit like "LETS BOMB RUSSIA".

In this fake world of mine, No one is to talk of war until war is brought upon us and we are to DEAL WITH IT AS A THREAT. This terrorist shit got way too out of hand, and not by our people. No-no, by one man who thought it was popular belief, what his dad wanted, and what God himself wanted, to invade Iraq and make them our responsibility. You know how much money of ours now belongs to other countries? No U.S. citizen actually has MONEY in his pocket now. Only higher class rich fucks actually have money. Any and every person you see on the streets in the U.S. owns nothing, and that's the truth of it. He owns a house and has a job in a country that is indebt more money than the U.S. has as a whole (with an exception of the rich folk) :thumbup:

we're screwed and something needs to change. And I would do something about it.

*hires terumoto and Big Picture as back-up creators to the plan and project*

name of Project: DLTWE

Don't Let The World End

No though, share your thoughts with me. I need to see your views.

that all makes sense. i like that, dont show kids the book before they're ten. at first i thought that was dumb, but that would let kids have an open mind and make an waiverable discussion to follow it or w/e.
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but one thing with terrorism is that if someone doesn't confess to the act of terrorism it can always be used by one country or group to cause another group to harm someone else. terrorism is the biggest problem with the world today, it puts fear in people and makes people make misinformed decisions. and i dont know how to fix that, it seems like a catch 22 and could forever be useful tactic for evil. best way i would fix it is to have a sit down with terrorist in some way and tell them to "live and let live" we wont fuck with you if u dont fuck with us, just as long as u dont disrespect your own people and refuse to let them leave your country if they feel violated.

i dont know of anyone whose reached "Enlightenment, Satori, Nirvana, Heaven" and let go of their religion or "boat" like u said in your metaphor.

On the contrary, it is impossible to reach such a state while attached to religion. This is only evident within the person in question, to us outsiders it will look like they are a Buddhist, or a Taoist, or a Christian, but to them religion is nothing but a label.

There is one Fatal flaw in the system 2v and you are proposing... It is only as strong as it's weakest link. The one, single, insignificant person that decides to be a selfish asshole ruins the system for everyone else. Suppress him, and the world is not perfect, it is just as judgmental and imperfect as our world now.

There needs to be humans on the earth that understand what "bad" is and have the option to discuss what possible evil lurks within our own home.

To destroy routes of evil in other people's homes is invading and can be considered war, that's what I mean.

Yes we are judgmental but we have to make sure everyone understands what sanity and insanity is. What good and bad is, What evil intentions and righteous intentions are. If we could do this while supervising what the people want, (by the people running their own government voluntarily), I believe the system may be better off.

It's George Bush Jr everyone :thumbup:

Didn't they already make a television show about that? ....

What in the fuck are you even talking about here? Everyone is a female when they are a fetus? Are you retarded? Do you not know what a fetus is? A fetus is a baby prototype in the womb that already has genetics. Ever heard of chromosones? XY, XX?. Do you know what 'female' means? You do know the only time a penis comes out of a vagina during the process of making baby is after sex, right?

Anyway, no. God is not everything. Everything is not god. Everything in the universe is not one thing. This belief comes from pounding it into your brain so long that it seems to be true. Oh shit, everything is made out of atoms! That means everything is the same! And every atom has quarks in it! We're all just a bunch of quarks! Oh, and there's a huge amount of empty space in atoms, that means most of the physical things in the universe are mostly empty space.

Stupid.

Please, explain to me how something can be different or separate from the universe. I would really like to know. If you can even give me one example of something that is not part of the universe, then you deserve to win a Nobel prize.