Enygma
 

you were in the army right?

What would you say it's like? I'm about to join this shit and I want an opinion outside of a Army Recruiter.

^^enjoy Iraq...nuff said

I want to go there kind of. I mean I think it will be a wondeful oppurtunity to travel and see new places. Besides If I joined the army I'd be doing communications, not Infantry so I wouldn't exactly be on the frontlines.

yeah, and your also going to be getting shot at by crazy islamic extremist everyday...but hey, atleast you'll be getting a degree in communications...something that you could be getting at college, in...you know, AMERICA. word

Yeah, I won't necassarily be getting shot at. I'm not going to be in Infantry.

I have a friend currently in Iraq, disarming roadside IEDs. He says it's alright.

he could also get shot in america by anti-abortion extreemist

or shot by gay marriage extreemist (knocks on wood for tha q)

shot on a college campus in america

or just get shot randomly by one of the millions of crazy fuckin people in this country. you think his parents would feel better if he got killed by an american? i'd rather take my chances wit the close knitness of a platoon.

Sorry nitrogen, but that was just retarded.

We don't have snipers in America who sit outside of their best friends' window looking for U.S. soldiers because they believe their Religion states they should kill non-believers and those who ally themselves with their enemies.

Which is us, there to support Israel. lol.

^^ thats simply a distorted view.

We support Isreal based on 2 different things. We one, beleive both in Jesus Christ...aka Christian relgion, well most of us do (most notably our presidents) which therefore makes all of us support them. And second we fight for the underdog. Isreal has been picked on by every country in the middle east since we have supported them since we fucking gave them their country. So frankly they can fuck off. They really have no clue about how democracey works, period. So how can they judge us? How can YOU judge how democry works? You sound like a hyrocrite, you reap the benefits of democrey and yet complain about it all the time. I love u 2v, nuff said

What did you just fucking say you fucking faggot?

You better love me like a brother..


and on a lighter note, What?

i love you, nuff said

lol dawg that was stupid as fuck.

You're comparing getting shot at during a war to the LOW as fuck percentage chance he could get shot in a campus or those other horrible examples you gave? the fuck? I'm sure the US loses atleast one life a day or some shit over there in IRaq. Do we have college shootings every day? Nope... not even every year.

think before

wow, you guys are seriously idiots.

"islamic extremists"?????? you seriously believe that bullshit?

and 2v, you speak of these horrible snipers sitting in their windows waiting to pick off innocent US soldiers. did you ever think about who's country WE'RE in???

it doesn't take an "extremist" to defend their own country, that is a bullshit way of viewing things that you have been brainwashed into thinking by the US media's representation of the war (which has its best interest in continuing that war).

pretend some "normal" muslims (not extreme like the ones with guns killing people standing right next to OUR soldiers with guns killing people :rolleyes: ) came into the United States and started bombing our schools and cities, killing thousands of innocent civilians. would we be "extremist" to be out there with guns ourselves defending OUR country?

open up your minds.

To the original question......

Past Tense, what is the MOS you're getting into. I don't want you to think you're going into one thing and it end up being totally different than you thought it would be.

The army as a whole though isn't bad. Its a great place to get some traveling done and to be honest, its the most secure job in America right now. YOU CAN'T GET FIRED! Now, if you do some dumb shit that's illegal, you'll get kicked out.....but that's better than going to jail, right?

Anyway, I can go on and on about the benefits of the army (I'm actually still in) but that would take up waaaaaaay too much time. Give me some specifics of what you want to know and I'll shoot it to you straight :thumbup:

Uncle Sam doesn't want you.

oh, and just as a side note so that my comments don't get misinterpreted, i am NOT criticizing soldiers whatsoever. i have the upmost respect for every singe individual who risks their lives everyday so that i can go to college and pursue my own dreams. what i am criticizing is our country's leaders and their motives in going to war, and the mainstream American view of the war.

I don't take any offense. I know what people mean when they dislike the war :thumbup:

that was purposly a limited perspective. its too many factors to fit on this site. i was basically trying to state that anyone could die anyday at anytime. theres really no higher chance of dying just from being in Iraq. now yes there may be more of a likely hood. but the fact that he may die isnt a valid reason not to join the army when he may die in the next minute if he doesnt.







and before dome dumbass starts to say chance and likely hood is the same thing, i know. the correct wording just slipped my mind and to me its really not important enough to sit here and think of how to get my point across

well it would be best you sit down and figure out how to get your point across. Otherwise no one is going to understand it. Thanks for editing the bottom though, I was about to quote it either in a post or a signature.

"theres really no higher chance of dying just from being in Iraq. now yes there may be more of a likely hood."

Gold.

with that I'd like to say, yes, you can post all the reasons on this board. It's text.

AND... As for the guy who said "Islamic Extremists don't exist they just fight because we're invading"

That's all cool, but remember why we invaded? Don't tell me you forgot, just go look it up if you did.

lol yea i picked up on it before i even typed it. im just saying I personally would rather get shot at with an entire squadron than in my city by myself. (not saying thats likely to happen, just an example)

Eli should fight on behalf of america.

Eli is America.

Lol umm.. Israelis are Jewish, aka don't believe Jesus is the savior...

We support Israel because we were a country based on God and Israel is God's country :thumbup:

I believed that at one point too enygma lol.

Who knows the real reason we do? All I know is we do. What I don't get is how Israel has such strict rules to get into heaven, yet they have a standing army. . lmfao

In the bible it talks about war and how its ok to protect yourself and your people with violence if its in a defensive way. I'm not a biblical scholar or anything, I just know its in there somewhere....lol


And yeah, what I meant to say in the last post is what we are told the reason we protect Israel is..........


And that's that :thumbup:

But is that even truly a reason at all, is the question >_>

It's very scientific but it would need to be taken to a much further level than just protecting Israel, if we're even going to do that at all. Hell, the bible coulda been wrong if America didn't stop the Nazi's from burning the jews.

Think about it, World War 2 happens and they succeed in extermination of the jew race, how would the bible be seen then? lol. Still, it's beside the point now.. This thread went wayyyy off topic.

if people dumb enough to die over "their" religion they should, and will. i could care less. two different religions tellin them they should kill someone over land, obviously got it wrong and thats all i need to know.

Past Tense, if you're still interested in knowing about the Army, hit me up on AIM


AIM = heyenygma

*scratches head* Ne one hear even know why Isreal exists? Like the actually land setting of Isreal?? Oh thats right, because some dipshit in Great Britin thought it was fair that they have their own country and so he just drew the shit up and told everyone in the Middle East that they better fucking like......We basically pissed on everyone in the middle east for along time. Do you know how bad we've fucked over Iran?? The only time they've ever had a president who was actually getting shit done for them, got ousted during WWII...by guess who?? America. We backstabbed them again in the fucking 50's-60's becuase we thought they were going to become an ally with Russia...even though they had no intent to do so, but we of course didn't belivie them. We believed our silly ally Great Britin, who wanted us to go into Iran and do something about how Iran's oil was getting split up. Becuase Great Britin who owned all their oil fields would give Iran a very very very small profit of the money that was made out of them. So Iran told Britin to fuck off, and thats when we went into Iran and basically backstabbed them.....

so holla, READ A FUCKING BOOOOOK tezzy, wezzy...whatever the fuck your name is.

N have of your posts are crappy contradictions as is. We all agree we should have gone to Iraq to put an end to Saddam. But now we can't get out of Iraq because we are fighting an impossible war to win, and people are starting to point the finger at everyone else saying....no no no, i didn't want this...blah blah blah....shut the fuck up, i'm sure you were down for this shit in the first place. Now lets fucking deal with this.

Holla @ Enygma for goign to Afghan, that takes balls

...thats defiently the most i've written on this website, in a while.

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yea why is it that we invaded mister conspiracy theorist? that hates the government so much,why?
weapons of mass destruction that we didnt find? and before you reply put fox news on mute or something.

............well put................

Fox fucking news? I should slap you silly with the biggest E-hand I can draw for the whack ass computer screen you probably idolize.

You're just one of many who think I watch the fucking news for information, and you're a dickhead.

To Teevy Wonder:
Of course we'd defend ourself, but what you don't fucking SEE is that they are NOT defending themselves, we are patrolling the streets and getting hit by roadside bombs, we are not killing innocent people, yes, we've invaded and set up camps, but we're not there to take over their country, just establish Democracy over the left over remnants of what would become another dictatorship, or ownership of the country by a neighbor. Iraq is unstable, that's why we're there now, we went in for weapons, found none, destroyed their government, and now we're just supposed to leave? There is reason to believe Iraq will go to hell if we don't stay and fix what we caused.

The problem? People are shooting at us. Why are they shooting at us ? You tell me, and it's not your made up, lame-brained believed reason that we're bombing their cities and schools because despite your personal belief, we're only blowing up buildings that contain people who are sniping us down. Why are the sniping us down? "Cry!! BECAUSE WE ARE BLOWING UP THEIR BUILDINGS CRY!!!" They blew us up first. Shut the fuck up.

now, back to random new-faced asshole:
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yea why is it that we invaded mister conspiracy theorist? why?
weapons of mass destruction that we didnt find? and before you reply put fox news on mute or something."

Oh wait. I answered your question. What a cunt you've proved to be.

.........first off R.I.P. to our american BROTHERS who have died over their who have been brainwashed to believe that they are fighting for a reason(no weapons were found)..but those people are protecting their country..when we are bombing those buildings we ARE killing innocent poeple..you say were not there to take over their country, bullshit setting up our form of government is considered taking over their country,they were a stalble country before we blew the fuck out of them for no reason..what weapons of mass destruction?
their shoooting at us becuase weve killed their innocent relatives by blowing up those buildings.common you watch fox news they even admitt they kill innocent people on ACCIDENT..
and who the fuck blew us up mr conspiracy theorist that hates the government?

Wow......some of you people are so out of touch with reality.....lol


Ok, first of all, we are not over there blowing up buildings and killing everyone we see. We were never over there doing that. We had a small air strike when the whole thing first kicked off that I was very proud of and I'm sure most of you were too, at one point. Now all of a sudden everyone wants to pretend that they were against all of this from the beginning? Fuckin flakes.

We didn't go in there to instill democracy on Iraq which is why I don't understand why we are still there. We went in there to dethrone Saddam, which we did. Mission Complete, Lets Go Home! But now that we've decided to help them rebuild like some fucktards, we have to actually stay there until they're rebuilt.

And contrary to popular belief, there are maybe a handful of snipers over there, and by handful, I mean you could count them on one hand. We are not fighting people anymore, we are fighting IEDs (Improvised Explosive Devices) which are rigged to go off with cell phones, radio frequencies, and other shit like that. The people claiming that they are protecting their country nobly are really just a bunch of cowards hiding in the bushes pushing a call button on a cell phone. We are no longer fighting people in Iraq, we are fighting IEDs.


Now, on the flip side, Afghanistan hasn't really used any IEDs because we don't patrol Afghanistan the same way we do Iraq. Afghanistan is a more mountainous terrain which we patrol on foot, so we are more likely to encounter some small arms fire than an IED. We aren't doing much good in Afghanistan either besides delaying the Taliban from doing whatever they feel like, but we're doing more good there than Iraq.


Yup :thumbup:

^^ if we were to pull out....their'd be mass fucking killings, oh wait thier already are.

But think of this, if we were to pull out, we would see a new regime trying to take over and we would know who we were fighting then.

And plus, its not our fuckin country, so who gives a fuck. We went in there and took out the threat, let them figure out how to fix their own shit.

Meh.....sorry, I get a little heated about this shit :(

thats great, i fucking hate fox newss

2v said they blew us up first. i hate u for that. and yes fox news is the devil.
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and enygma, i agree, that makes really good sense to back out and let someone try and take over, then we go back, know who we're fighting and fuck up a visual target.