my grandpa
 

Okay. Well, everyone has their own beliefs in such so I suggest unless you have an open mind, you leave this thread right fucking now.

This is a thread about my racist grandfather. He's fought in a war and he's 60 years old. He lived in the age and days where people had separated water fountains and such, and just like if you're black, you might have racist grandparents, you could be white and have racist grandparents, for good reason, it is THEIR life, their time, not their grandchildrens. Just a sign of the times I guess.

But lemme get to the point, a lot of white folk down in Alabama still believe in segregation. They think there needs to be separation of the races, not completely, but there needs to be boundaries. & science is playing the role likewise has Religion in the segregation deal, scientific speculation suggests that white people will be the minority in about 35-45 years, due to racial mixing and dark colors being dark when they mix with a light colored human. So that's the newest excuse I've heard for well managed segregation.

Aside from that, my grandfather told me that he thinks that if I was in a group of black people (even though I constantly talk to cool black folk up north) that I would be excluded. In other words, if it were me at a social event that consisted of a lot of black people, I'd get excluded and feel that way, likewise would a black kid in a social event that consisted of many whites. I shrugged this case off when I heard it, so you should too, let me get to his other point.

"Black people never had it that bad. I grew up working the fields alongside black slaves or else I wouldn't get fed, and when I refused to work, I got my ass whooped too" - him. He also went on to say that white slave owners weren't stupid, and black people shouldn't hold anything against us or personally our family, because we were broke and worked hard for what we owned and didn't own any slaves either. He said that you wouldn't go out and bust the door in your car, so why the fuck would a $1,600.00 olden day slave get beaten badly for just being black? It's not cost effective and they were treated as well as anybody else in America.

So here's my main initial point

just because you have a racist grandparent, that doesn't mean you should be racist. If anyone has a reason to be racist, it's WHITE people, so why are there more racist black people these days? Looking for excuses? Because the white excuse to be racist is pretty fucking sorry, lmao

and America is fucked up nowadays 'cuz it's always been fucked up. I feel excluded from my family anyway, even though I get told that black people would exclude me, 'cuz when I sit at the dinner table and someone mentions politics, I can only bring it down to "Both presidential candidates suck" to get a nod from anyone without controversy.

I said McCain knows nothing about the economy, I was told Obama could-be a Muslim in disguise, in these words: "Would you go to Christian school just to say you did or would you go to learn about and believe in Christianity?" which was a well-said comeback, so I said McCain is an idiot. "Obama's a nigger".

So, now you see why you had to be open minded. Alabama is a beautiful place, it truly is, but that doesn't change it from being a part of America. These people are a bit wacked out in my opinion. Thanks for being open minded.

OH and before darkmanner or whatever waltz's in here and gives the typical "IF YOUR GPAP SAID NIGGER AROUND HERE HED GET AJSKdlajdlkasjd DEAD" then I'll just go on to say my grandfather is the most respected person in this county. He can go to the local wal mart and get anything he fucking wants for free because he's worked his ass off for this community his entire life. YOU would get captured, put in jail, and given the death sentence for harming my grandfather in this area of Alabama. No hostility, don't say something stupid.

Fuck racism. Racism is just a word created to define hatred or any semblance of distaste towards anyone of any race/colour or whatever that is dissimilar to your own.

It is just a way for the grand populous to identify a group of people and find a way to single them out from others, put them into a group to be hated or loved.. depending on your own chosen views on society.


I personally think the term racist is a joke. It is thrown around by so many people, and a lot of them use it either as a tool to bring sympathy to themselves and those like them or direct hate towards those who are not like them.

A pure example is this guy who lives down the street from me. He is a total douche and I am constantly engaged in shouting wars with each of us throwing obscenities at each other. He is white, as am I. Now if one of us was black, the outside world looking in would view one of if not both of us as racist because we are verbally assaulting a person of a different colour/race or whatever.

Its a fucking joke. A white guy calls a black guy a fucking cunt or whatever and starts bad mouthing him in general. The real reason is because he generally dislikes him because he is indeed a cunt. The white guy is labelled a racist.

A black guy beats up a white guy for the simple reason that the white guy was lets say dating the black guys sister and they broke up because the white guy was cheating on the girl. The black guy beats the white guy up because he is angry at the guy mistreating his sister. The black guy would be labelled a racist and the crime would be considered by the majority as a hate crime.

Racism is ridiculous. It is a ridiculous term and I pay no mind to it.

im kinda racist against guidos they really annoy the fuck out of me... lol

also hickish french people around here get on my nerves too

^ That would be prejudice then, not racist.

Prejudice is distaste to select groups, racist is distaste to all groups that don't fit in with your own. Hitler was the finest example of a racist. Although, if somebody hadn't decided to bring a title to those who viewed all those unlike themselves as inferior then nobody would be racist.

lmao don't start that shit man. I had to write a whole fucking paper on that shit for philosophy class

"If the sky was never labeled with a name, then would it still be a sky?"

"Yes, because the sky is the sky no matter what!"

"No, because if the word sky doesn't exist then there's no such thing as a sky!"

etc etc

fuck intro to philosophy. It was fun at certain points but overall so fucking boring

Yeah seriously

that was obviously senseless as shit, I would have probably argued the third statement with "Then that makes you a fucking idiot because if blue was green then the sky would be green but that wouldn't make it a different color now would it? No. Shut the fuck up"

you can never be right or wrong in philosophy, there's no such thing as an answer that solves a philosophical question, and then they get this bright idea to make you debate against classmates like it's ever going to go anywhere, i would get so fucking frustrated and be ready to kill someone

This is a ramble that has nothing to do with this thread:
Well if you look at what philosophy really is, then you would see it's logical interpretations of that which is unknown or very difficult to explain. So yeah, you can say there is no right or wrong but there ARE explanations that are closer to right then others.

That is because there are only words to explain the logical interpretation and because words are only descriptions you can only get so close to explaining in words what you're trying to solve. So if you're going to sit there and talk bullshit about the sky, you need to ask your debater a direct and descriptive question. "Oh if the word sky doesn't exist then the sky doesn't"

when fact of it is, Sky exists, just not the word for it, and after that, you can only be forced to determine what the word Sky represents. Is that the blue -atmosphere- above you, or is it everything that you can't reach with your hands that is far above you, is it the color of the sky? You just need to have some fucking sense. That's why I'll be taking philosophy.

You can take any one thing and philosophize about it, but I prefer to philosophize about things like the human mind, because that's a fucked up worm hole. Everything else can basically be solved because it's external. I remember one philosophical thing I debated with terumoto about before his death, I think it was.. voidness. That was fucking funny, lol

but anyway, yeah, my grandpa is pretty much a racist in my eyes. He'll say something to a black person and be like, "Yeah well it's okay I don't hate you, you're a cool nigger".

Most respected person in the county??? sure.... mr racism is the most respected person... haha

1.One of the funniest things i've read in a while.


2. lol, funny how Wal-mart n Alabama is just hand in hand. Also, how fuckin backwards Alabama is. So what if your grandfather worked his ass off, lots of othe rpeople break their backs aswell, they aint getting speical prevliages.
N i dont mean ne disprescpt to your family/grandpa either 2v. I'm just making a point that Albama is far behinde in the times...

U've never been to the Deep South. Have You? :shocked:

I think personally it would be interesting to see what would happen if the Holocaust would happen again, only it targeted white or black people.

See the true racism in people.

I didn't say it's because he breaks his back. It's because it's a community where everybody knows everybody, seriously, if someone catches AIDS, everyone in the fucking county knows. In other words, if you have AIDS and you're in this area, you aint gonna get sex. lmao

and because everybody knows everybody, and gdad spends all his time around everybody down here and has done business of almost all forms with almost all families, everyone respects him, that includes wal-mart managers, gas station owners, etc. He could go into a store and literally get 200 dollars worth of groceries and be like "I'll pay you back next month"

earlier today he got his hair cut in front of me by a local barber who came to his house and she was like "Yeah just pay me whenever it's no big deal" hahaha.

fuck racism shits stupid

Lmao @ Alabama.

Pinky, how dare you rag on the place that gave birth to Forrest Gump.

werd

prejudice, is stupid. Racism is an unjustified hate so it's moronic

so I guess my gpa aint racist necessarily, he's lived and worked with blacks all his life, he's just prejudice and puts whites above blacks.

I still call him racist. 'cuz he's putting whites above blacks. It's just an incorrect term.

I don't see any race/colour or whatever as less or more, or as equal.

I just see them for what they are, just like I hope people see me for what I am. I try not to define people by general labels. I see my friend Joe as my friend Joe. I see my friend Simon as my friend Simon. I see my brother Jamie as Jaffa, because that is what people have been calling him for over 15 years now.

Labels suck.

Well you have a label and you also have words to describe a label.

Alabama - Forrest Gump. Alabama - Southern Hicks etc.

Just like you have words to describe Jaffa, his label, his name.

That's not philosophy, but what I'm about to say could be in its relation.. Stereo Types suck.

I mean labels that identify groups though.

Like these people are inferior to these people, but they are equal to these people. That sort of shit. That alabama shit was a joke.

And I see my brother as Jaffa because that is the nickname given to him because when he was young he used to always be seen with the jaffa cakes munching away.

*chews*

I wonder ... If trail mix had existed back during the Trail Of Tears, would it have been so sad?