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SnoCap 03-18-09 10:33 PM

Do you worship the Sun?
 
If you follow modern religion... then you do.

King Solo 03-18-09 10:37 PM

I follow no religion. I don't see the point in following something that is riddled with contradiction. Discuss that if you will.

SnoCap 03-18-09 10:50 PM

Yes, indeed... you are correct about that. There is a message behind the message of religion. The use of anchient symbolism that we have no idea what means. the sheeple go on following this and believe they are doing the right thing. Well, I dont know what God is, But i know what God isn't. Deffinetly not God.

But all religion is just astrology. If you do research on it, you will find a whole lot of symbolism and interpretations of words. It all relates to astrology.

Brydon 03-18-09 11:07 PM

Im same as nick i dont follow any religion..... Life is hard enough without following shit or believeing shit that you dont know is the truth or whatever.
Besides i tried it once...not deeply but things started to happen that i was told was gonna happen by people who do believe in certain things so it started to get to me but yes then it all turned on its head to give me as many reasons to believe it was aload of bullshit as it was it was true.
So i decide to save the wasteful thinking.

SnoCap 03-18-09 11:15 PM

Don't follow people who don't even know what they are following :-/

Brydon 03-18-09 11:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoCap
Don't follow people who don't even know what they are following :-/




I followed what they believed in simply because what they said will help etc did but it turned out to be in my eyes a coiencidence.

King Solo 03-18-09 11:25 PM

I couldn't be religious anyway, at least not a Christian with all that ten commandments bullshit.. I mean - thou shalt not sleep with thy neighbour's wife.. if my neigbour had a hot wife and I was single, and she offered herself to me.. I'd defo rail her for sure.

one way 03-18-09 11:40 PM

The pope doesn't even believe the shit he preaches, as for astorlogy and christianity, na dude......we're made in the image of god aparently and we don't look like planets, Jesus has nothing to do with the planets, but their is a jesus character in many religions.

Old school 2000 AD type days are when they worshiped astrology

Brydon 03-18-09 11:40 PM

The way i see it is i can only believe in something if i had no doubts what so ever in the belief but in every religion i know of i found stuff i didnt believe in or would ever believe.

I believe in making the world go round living a comfortable life thats all.

SnoCap 03-18-09 11:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by one way
The pope doesn't even believe the shit he preaches, as for astorlogy and christianity, na dude......we're made in the image of god aparently and we don't look like planets, Jesus has nothing to do with the planets, but their is a jesus character in many religions.

Old school 2000 AD type days are when they worshiped astrology



you need to do your research brother... Where do you think they get their ideas from... its all anchient astrology...

Jesus represents the sun my friend. PLease do some research.

La Cosa Nostra 03-19-09 12:00 AM

i worship the big bang and black holes..

one way 03-19-09 12:01 AM

I studied religion dude, I've done my research.....Like I said other religions have their forms of jesus.....they used to worship the sun, but man has slightly evolved the story to make sense, they abandoned the sun as god a very long time ago.

one way 03-19-09 12:02 AM

well the story still doesn't make sense

La Cosa Nostra 03-19-09 12:02 AM

religion is so fucking gay and irrelevant....

SnoCap 03-19-09 12:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by one way
I studied religion dude, I've done my research.....Like I said other religions have their forms of jesus.....they used to worship the sun, but man has slightly evolved the story to make sense, they abandoned the sun as god a very long time ago.


in every religion their "jesus" is the sun god, it stands for the same principals... juss manipulated to manipulate the people.

one way 03-19-09 12:20 AM

Not every religion has a jesus.....and no it has nothing to do with manipulation, man started to gain knowledge about the atmophere and decided that the sun is a star and nothing more, so they made up another story, and when it gets proven wrong they will make up another one, it's the fear of the unknown that make people turn to and create religion.

What is your general point your trying to make in this thread? The sun is really our god and we're being manipulated.

La Cosa Nostra 03-19-09 12:29 AM

the sun has played an integral roll in our creation..

aswell as the moon.....

one way 03-19-09 12:33 AM

Let me say it like this, it may be your point after all

Any religion story has been created using others before it as a guide more or less, and the first form of religion was worshiping the sun......

La Cosa Nostra 03-19-09 12:38 AM

oh was it?

i wouldnt know, i wasnt around when the first forms of religion came out....

one way 03-19-09 12:40 AM

That was supposed to be a thesis type thing.......and historically speaking, so we're told.

King Solo 03-19-09 12:56 AM

Religion is a fucking joke. You get enough people faithful to a created religion and you can pretty much have a religion of anything.

Just ask people of the Jedi Census Church about that.

03-19-09 01:28 AM

Yeah, Adam is trying to teach people the same thing there, Sno

it's just funny that people are like OMG 12 DISCIPLES THAT POINTS TO THIS IN THE STARS SEEEEEEEEEE? OMG ITS ALL JUST ASTROLOGY..

then 2v has to slap them with the "Oh yeah but the bible says Jesus had more than 12 disciples. Aint that but a bitch dawg?"

In essence, every argument you come up with has a counter-argument and no, one way, there is no proof that people create Religion to define the unknown.

for all anybody in the PLANET knows, God could be 100% real and he's just setting the stage for you to fail in believing him. That you know no more than the first Religion revolving around the sun, or why Religion itself exists.

You could die tomorrow and simply appear in a 244 different colored realm with a giant angry hermaphrodite staring down at you screaming "YOU FAILED MY TEST OF FAITH."

then when you're like "But dude, there was no proof! Why have you tested me?! I apologize, you are my Lord!!!!!!!"

He'll/She'll be like "I GAVE YOU THE BIBLE AND TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE. I DELIBERATELY GAVE MAN THE CAPABILITY TO TEST THINGS OUT, I'VE DONE THIS TO ADD COLOR TO YOUR SOUL AND THERE ARE 244 COLORS IN MY REALM. IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE COLORS WHICH REPRESENTS PURITY AND GOOD, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM EXISTENCE.

GOODBYE. YOU HAVE FAILED."

_Talksic_ 03-19-09 01:57 AM

i worship the son jesus chirst.

J.Roy 03-19-09 02:28 AM

I believe in a religion, but i'm considered a "ignorant person" for believing in what I believe in. And normally the people that are saying i'm "ignorant" are ignorant themselves.

_Talksic_ 03-19-09 02:56 AM

^^^^^true that.

La Cosa Nostra 03-19-09 08:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Roy
I believe in a religion, but i'm considered a "ignorant person" for believing in what I believe in. And normally the people that are saying i'm "ignorant" are ignorant themselves.

well im not ignorant...

so lets delve into the abnormal and im going to call you ignorant for allowing yourself to become a sheep in the herd of primative human teachings of paradoxial unknown phenomina and fabels.

03-19-09 08:44 AM

it's paradoxical. That's twice now you left out the 'c'

and anyway, you'd have to define what you mean by paradoxical for me to argue with that.

Other than this, primitive human teachings had to have come from somewhere. Are you saying, primitive humans produced the bible? If so then wouldn't that make it extremely important regardless, and wouldn't that mean that 2,000 years ago is "primitive" and Alexander The Great was pre-primitive. Wow, he must have just been modern in a primitive world, either that or he was one heck of a monkey.

Besides... Unknown phenomena? You might as well say "everyday on earth"

and Fables? freakin' prove it....

Adam 03-19-09 09:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Roy
I believe in a religion, but i'm considered a "ignorant person" for believing in what I believe in. And normally the people that are saying i'm "ignorant" are ignorant themselves.


If I'm considered lost in your eyes because I don't believe in the same thing you do, it's a little condescending, you tell me whose ignorant?

Just because people can easily point out the flaws in your religion with common logic doesn't mean they're ignorant.

one way 03-19-09 11:16 AM

Quote:
In essence, every argument you come up with has a counter-argument and no, one way, there is no proof that people create Religion to define the unknown.



that is exactly why, no one knows whats going on so they make up stories so they feel better, any religion is just somones idea of our creator passes down through the generations......the fact is no one knows, and you are ignorant to think you do.

Brydon 03-19-09 12:13 PM

This is exactly all religion is good for a discussion or debate and just an arguement.

Either way a waste of time, as it changes NOTHING.

SnoCap 03-19-09 01:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2v
Yeah, Adam is trying to teach people the same thing there, Sno

it's just funny that people are like OMG 12 DISCIPLES THAT POINTS TO THIS IN THE STARS SEEEEEEEEEE? OMG ITS ALL JUST ASTROLOGY..

then 2v has to slap them with the "Oh yeah but the bible says Jesus had more than 12 disciples. Aint that but a bitch dawg?"

In essence, every argument you come up with has a counter-argument and no, one way, there is no proof that people create Religion to define the unknown.

for all anybody in the PLANET knows, God could be 100% real and he's just setting the stage for you to fail in believing him. That you know no more than the first Religion revolving around the sun, or why Religion itself exists.

You could die tomorrow and simply appear in a 244 different colored realm with a giant angry hermaphrodite staring down at you screaming "YOU FAILED MY TEST OF FAITH."

then when you're like "But dude, there was no proof! Why have you tested me?! I apologize, you are my Lord!!!!!!!"

He'll/She'll be like "I GAVE YOU THE BIBLE AND TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE. I DELIBERATELY GAVE MAN THE CAPABILITY TO TEST THINGS OUT, I'VE DONE THIS TO ADD COLOR TO YOUR SOUL AND THERE ARE 244 COLORS IN MY REALM. IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THE COLORS WHICH REPRESENTS PURITY AND GOOD, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM EXISTENCE.

GOODBYE. YOU HAVE FAILED."


Okay man, You're are truely in the darkness. I believe in God, But not yours.

You worship false God's... and if you read he bible, You'd know That worshipping false God's is the worst sin. You think you are doing the right thing because of what people have told you. But at what point do you stop believing what people tell you and start doing your own research? Your religion makes no sense. I am no trying to attack your beliefs. I am trying to open your eyes. You are clearly in the dark because when i turn on the light of illumination you turn away and react violently. This is what happens when you are in the dark and see the light for the first time so i am not mad at you.

You are following the anchient egyption religion of sun worship. No matter how they tell the story, this is what you are worshipping. you have to look behind the words and symbols for the true meaning. It doesn't matter how many deciples Jesus had because numbers in the bible are just symbols. They represent something. the do not necissarily mean their face value. Talk to any true theologist about this. Lucifer refers to the mourning star. Its actually Venis, which if you wake up at 4AM and watch just before the sun rise, you will see this star. After it comes the Sun. Thats why they call it "The bringer of the light" In actually The devil has nothing to do with the representation of Bad. It just a play on words... its just evil with a D. And God is just good without an O. Good/Bad it doesn't exist. Religion is manipulating your mind. There just IS. There is a devine force in the universe but you are not intune with it. So no matter how much you pray for things to get better... it never will, You my self decieve yourself into thinking your praying helps, or even look for something to vouch for your prayers. But you are praying to the Sun and Astrology... Not the underlying devine force of the universe.

Theres so much more to go into. So whatever comeback you have, i have one for you. But im not here to attack your beliefs, only open your eyes. I'm sure you were raised Catholic or whatever, and I'm sure you do not believe in the illuminati. You must start thinking for yourself man.

The Bible has a message within a message. If you look deeper, you will find the true message. Not the outerlayers of how people manipulated astrology from the anchients and make you worship false Gods. Realise this and you will be saved from yourself. And you can start to get in touch with the true devine forces of the universe.

King Solo 03-19-09 02:00 PM

We should all just become members of the Jedi Census Church.

Praise the force, man.

SnoCap 03-19-09 02:05 PM

Do you know how much religious symbolism is in starwars? Its really quiet interesting, and i hate star wars.

King Solo 03-19-09 02:35 PM

I'm not talking about Star Wars though. I'm talking about the ACTUAL Jedi Religion.

SnoCap 03-19-09 02:38 PM

hmmm... i don't know about that.

But i know that catholics say Amen at the end of a prayer or psalm because of the wordship of the egyption Sun God Amun Ra

King Solo 03-19-09 03:34 PM

http://www.jedichurch.org/


Word, that shit changed my life.

one way 03-19-09 04:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoCap
hmmm... i don't know about that.

But i know that catholics say Amen at the end of a prayer or psalm because of the wordship of the egyption Sun God Amun Ra



Once again your wrong........amen is from hebrew origins meaning "So be it" nothing to do with the sun, the words just happen to look the same

SnoCap 03-19-09 04:27 PM

LoL, you're funny man. Egypt was around way before hebrew was. The word is Derived from Egypt. So you're wrong.

WhoAmI 03-19-09 04:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Fletcher.
http://www.jedichurch.org/


Word, that shit changed my life.


Lmao @ us being in the key jedi demographic age-wise and nationality -wise

one way 03-19-09 04:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoCap
LoL, you're funny man. Egypt was around way before hebrew was. The word is Derived from Egypt. So you're wrong.



look it up, amen in christianity means so be it in hebrew, in the bible jesus would say it at the end of each message to mean exactly that, so be it, and hebrew had semitic origins not egyption.....where do you get your info from, I don't give a shit if some sun god was named amun ra, amen has nothing to do with it.


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