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bareknuckle 03-17-03 07:18 PM

Don't Like Bush? Vote him out!
 
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Killah Koz 03-17-03 11:23 PM

I'm not american

fuck bush

Johnny 6-feet 03-18-03 09:36 AM

me niether, how about a jfk style assassination instead?

fatman 03-18-03 01:06 PM

lol why would any1 vote him in in the first place, when he says shit like, 'what i want to do can be summed up in one word; make it right'

fo'trill 03-18-03 01:31 PM

or he says "im a patient man and by that i mean i am a patient man"

Finesse Streetz 03-18-03 01:47 PM

Stop disrespecting our President. I'm behind him 500%. If u don't like it, leave tha U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fo'trill 03-18-03 01:57 PM

Finesse streetz: are u in the military?

fo'trill 03-18-03 02:01 PM

also why do you support him?

varentao 03-18-03 02:09 PM

Simple rhetoric is what appeals to the US people in general - it has been the case for many years (Clinton, Bush Senior....and that other guy before him, forgot his name now....and so on, so forth...)...

...emphasis on GENERAL...not all...

Still, i don't think he should be president...he isn't dumb. But he isn't too clever either. Too ignorant about certain things, methinks he relies too much on his staff (like Powell, Rumsfeld and all the rest)...

And his knowledge of things outside the US is limited to say the least. For a man who is in charge of the most powerful nation on earth, that's worrying...

(yes, i know most of what i said is obvoius, but i thought i'd drop it in here anway)...

KiLLz 03-18-03 02:16 PM

Quote:
Stop disrespecting our President. I'm behind him 500%. If u don't like it, leave tha U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn, I wanted to be the first poster to disagree
with the popular census. Anyway, I am with Streets on
this one. If it wasn't for us, the French would be speaking
German with an economy that would have collapsed upon itself.
And Kuwait, shit it would be controlled by Iraq. In addition
to billions each year in aid we give to areas. Now suddenly, these half ass countries have the audacity to question our motives?
So we are good enough to give handouts, but once
shit hits the fan we are immediately questioned? Damn shame.
Wait till everything blows over, and the U.S. prospers.
Cannot wait for the wolves in sheeps clothing to crawl back
to kiss our fucking asses.

varentao 03-18-03 02:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by KiLLz

Damn, I wanted to be the first poster to disagree
with the popular census. Anyway, I am with Streets on
this one. If it wasn't for us, the French would be speaking
German with an economy that would have collapsed upon itself.
And Kuwait, shit it would be controlled by Iraq. In addition
to billions each year in aid we give to areas. Now suddenly, these half ass countries have the audacity to question our motives?
So we are good enough to give handouts, but once
shit hits the fan we are immediately questioned? Damn shame.
Wait till everything blows over, and the U.S. prospers.
Cannot wait for the wolves in sheeps clothing to crawl back
to kiss our fucking asses.


Erm, questioning the world super power is good, brains.

It's democratic...challenging it to bring a balance to the situation...

I mean by your reckoning, anyone who does something great or what not for a country, should'nt be questioned or be disagreed with....

KiLLz 03-18-03 02:32 PM

Doing great for so many decades should be
a pivotal factor when justifying our intentions.
Our history speaks for itself. If we haven't earned the trust of
civilians in all nations by now as a decisive superpower,
then your perceptions are sorely tainted.

It is a slap in the face.

varentao 03-18-03 02:37 PM

As i said. Questioning your intentions, and what not else, is a good thing. It brings balance - it's democratic.

And there are many people in America who disagree with what the US are doing too (not saying i'm someone who disagrees with the war exactly, even though i don't agree with it either - it's much more complex than that...)...

Either way, it's a good thing. Otherwise the US would have too much power - and that's not good for the world in general. That includes the citizens of USA. As absolute power corrupts absolute and all that...

I mean you got to realise that the war is not TOTALLY just. There's many reasons to go for it, and against it.

fo'trill 03-18-03 02:39 PM

doing great for so many DECADES? my friend about 5 decades ago the red scare happened and we were afraid of ourselves. decades ago we persecuted blacks and immigrants. decades ago we got into a war that we should of never entered. deacades ago we gave LSD to our own soldiers, decades ago we infectedour own citizens with, what std was it, gonrhea. so yeh i see why civilians of all nations trust us.
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Murder 1.N.E. 03-18-03 02:55 PM

fuck every president.

minimum wage 03-18-03 05:10 PM

I'm not political at all fuck everyone

KiLLz 03-18-03 05:21 PM

Spare me your attempt at belitteling the greatest
civilization since the Roman empire. You are just
desensitized by the utter nonsense projected by some radical faction, you been reading about on the Net. As your presumptions are absurb, time & jaded, exaggerations,
and or just complete heresay. Stop spitting regurjatated references.

Shit I'm the first one to put down our society, and it's conventional
standards. However, I know in my mind, although a lot of
bullshit. It's the price you pay to live in the single greatest country. You cannot convince me otherwise.

By the way we got a line that seperates the weak from the strong.
It's called the Canadian border. Don't like our country?
Move the fuck on, with ya little dog chewy, and ya napsack.

varentao 03-18-03 05:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by KiLLz
Spare me your attempt at belitteling the greatest
civilization since the Roman empire. You are just
desensitized by the utter nonsense projected by some radical faction, you been reading about on the Net. As your presumptions are absurb, time & jaded, exaggerations,
and or just complete heresay. Stop spitting regurjatated references.

Shit I'm the first one to put down our society, and it's conventional
standards. However, I know in my mind, although a lot of
bullshit. It's the price you pay to live in the single greatest country. You cannot convince me otherwise.

By the way we got a line that seperates the weak from the strong.
It's called the Canadian border. Don't like our country?
Move the fuck on, with ya little dog chewy, and ya napsack.


Jebus...

...that's so ignorant and out of touch that it's not even funny...(well actually, it's mildly amusing)...

...i shall 'say' no more, 'killz'...

"Spare me your attempt at belitteling the greatest
civilization since the Roman empire" - heh...

bareknuckle 03-18-03 05:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finesse Streetz
Stop disrespecting our President. I'm behind him 500%. If u don't like it, leave tha U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm not going to leave because i don't believe in what he's doing. this is a democracy..well supposed to be..which means everyone's voice should be considered and heard, so why can't i say that i don't believe he is doing an adequate job in office. if everyone just agreed with what the president was doing no matter what then we would have a dictator and bush would be regarded as the american sadaam hussein(which he already is)

fabolous89 03-18-03 07:52 PM

lemme add something...america goes and kills middle easterns...then they get mad when the sept.11th attacks happen...they had it coming sorry to say, i'm not anti-american but american's are the biggest terrorist...this war is stupid

"mast weapons of distruction"

naw they just want iraq's oil...and that's true...why don't they attack korea...korea kicked the U.N. outta their country. This is gay the guy starts two wars in three years. Tries to kill Osama when Osama didn't do anything...america needs a new president

Dirty Shanks 03-18-03 08:50 PM

ok fo'trill, Other countries have done much worse of things to people. We were not tha first to introduce slavery, or anything that you said. Tha world is fucked up, and to live in a world fucked up and prosper, you must maintain tha safty of tha people within' ya country, and its economy... A Super Power has a much larger responsibility to up-hold within' its country and tha world. Tha world expects alot from a super power, and when we make decisions about what we intend on doing. Tha world gets all pee-pee hearted about shit. Tha last time France said a country posed no threat, tha Germans were marching through Paris with there nazi flags held high. Tha world was pissed at us for not entering World War II early in tha begining. Now we are preventing shit, and tha world still get's pissed. Make ya fuckin' minds up!... You want tha U.S. to do this and that, but then we do this and that, and it's wrong. STFU!!......
Stand aside and let us do what WE are good at. Correcting tha fucked up world, when we should be helping ourselves, and forget about how FUCKED up everyone else is. Not our problem!..

varentao::
"Simple rhetoric is what appeals to the US people in general - it has been the case for many years (Clinton, Bush Senior....and that other guy before him, forgot his name now....and so on, so forth...)..."

^^Yet tha rest of tha world is learning english, and becoming more like us...^^

"Still, i don't think he should be president...he isn't dumb. But he isn't too clever either. Too ignorant about certain things, methinks he relies too much on his staff (like Powell, Rumsfeld and all the rest)..."

^^that's how shit works. His staff takes care of alot of shit, cause we got alot of shit to take care of.^^

"And his knowledge of things outside the US is limited to say the least. For a man who is in charge of the most powerful nation on earth, that's worrying..."

^^He's not in charge of shit... He acts only as a voice of tha U.S. people as a majority. nothing happends, unless permission is granted through congress.^^

Tha Marines can act on there own though. No permission from tha people needed. They are an amphibious ready group that can attack and leave at any time, no-body can say shit about it...

-Navy Seals
-Marine Force Recon.
-Green Barets
-Delta Force

^^All Amphibious ready groups that are mission capable^^

peace....

G.Hod 03-18-03 08:52 PM

ahhh.. How many more opinions must I hear on this subject? School, the dinner table, the courts.. now Rapbattles?!

No matter how good the previous person argues the subject at hand, the next in line always argues his idea, and points are reiterated to the bone. I am behind Bush wholeheartedly, but also perplexed by the United Nations Weapons Inspectors' recent actions. Previously, I felt the UN was a puppet for the U.S. to operate, however, it has taken a stand of its own in recent months, which is, frankly, surprising.

Dirty Shanks 03-18-03 08:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Eck-Lipse
lemme add something...america goes and kills middle easterns...then they get mad when the sept.11th attacks happen...they had it coming sorry to say, i'm not anti-american but american's are the biggest terrorist...this war is stupid

"mast weapons of distruction"

naw they just want iraq's oil...and that's true...why don't they attack korea...korea kicked the U.N. outta their country. This is gay the guy starts two wars in three years. Tries to kill Osama when Osama didn't do anything...america needs a new president



Sorry Eck.... But that's tha largest load of bullshit that I have ever glanced at... To say we had it comin'? fuck that!!!... Iraq will soon have it comin'.... again...Tomarrow!

Who wanna step, no-body. Terror is a weak countries only ally.

peace

Dirty Shanks 03-18-03 09:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by LyricALI
Previously, I felt the UN was a puppet for the U.S. to operate, however, it has taken a stand of its own in recent months, which is, frankly, surprising.


^^Just a minor set-back... Taken care of...^^

Finesse Streetz 03-19-03 01:02 AM

See, u guys have it wrong. Prosecution of blacks and immigrants are no more, PER SAY. Sad to say, we discriminate against arabs. And I love arabs, but we as a nation take things that they have nothing to do with, out on them.

No I am not in tha military. I am an senior honor student at Harold L. Richards High School in Oak Lawn,IL. We are a blue ribbon school. That helped me receive 6 academic scholarships from six different schools in tha Midwest. I chose to attend St.Xavier University on a full-scholarship. It's like 10 minutes from my house.

But, I said to myself, if this whole 9/11 situation was to get out of hand, I will exercise my right as a citizen and join tha Naval Academy. Not tha Navy. Those are 2 different institutions. In tha NA, I will attend their college, but also learn tha skills of a midshipmen.

I support Bush so much bcuz hes tha president for one. And he has held this country together through our hardest times. Plus I'm a republican. And I'm black. Don't associate democrats as being all blacks, and whites being all republicans. Bush has taken measures to ensure my security in this country. I've been diminished tha racial barriers supposedly set up against my black people. Bush has gave me a feeling of security within this country and myself. I put my faith in him 500%. I believe Bush and Blair are doing tha right thing. Tony Blair is an inspiration. He's standing up for what he believes in and won't back down.

When u guys say peace over war, think about tha tens of thousands of people Saddam has killed. Those tens of thousands are children. During tha Persian Gulf War, Tha U.S. death toll was taken up by a whopping 87% of friendly fire! That means we basically killed our own people, by accident ofcourse.

B4 u people go and stick your necks out for a cause, know your facts. This war is good for all of us. It will only last less than a month. We will begin in tha next new moon. Right now its a full moon in Iraq. Giving them an advantage in night battle. We have better night vision equipment, but they will be alert enuff to see us coming.

As of Right Now, Tha United States Of America Has 29 Allies Around Tha World!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Know Your Facts People

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Finesse Streetz 03-19-03 01:10 AM

Osama bin Laden is so upset at us bcuz of their war in tha 70s with Russia. We helped them win, then turned our backs on them. Just like we did tha Kurds in Northern Iraq now.

Also, something to break tha tension, I'm surprised you all have voiced your opinion oh so well. Thank u for being so, so, so intelligent. We should run tha country :)

A Joke I Heard:

Look Who Runs Our Country

A Dick
A Colin
A Bush

Get It?:):):):)

Dogg, I wasn't saying leave literally, I mean exercise your right. But if you don't like whats going on, exercise your right further. Write to your congressman, senator, state reps and senators, and president. Vote him out of office.

I love Bush so much also bcuz Condeleeza Rice is so hott. Honestly?

self 03-19-03 01:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dirty Shanks
^^Yet tha rest of tha world is learning english, and becoming more like us...^^


Please god, oh please god tell me you didn't mean that America started the English Language.

varentao 03-19-03 07:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dirty Shanks
ok fo'trill, Other countries have done much worse of things to people. We were not tha first to introduce slavery, or anything that you said. Tha world is fucked up, and to live in a world fucked up and prosper, you must maintain tha safty of tha people within' ya country, and its economy... A Super Power has a much larger responsibility to up-hold within' its country and tha world. Tha world expects alot from a super power, and when we make decisions about what we intend on doing. Tha world gets all pee-pee hearted about shit. Tha last time France said a country posed no threat, tha Germans were marching through Paris with there nazi flags held high. Tha world was pissed at us for not entering World War II early in tha begining. Now we are preventing shit, and tha world still get's pissed. Make ya fuckin' minds up!... You want tha U.S. to do this and that, but then we do this and that, and it's wrong. STFU!!......
Stand aside and let us do what WE are good at. Correcting tha fucked up world, when we should be helping ourselves, and forget about how FUCKED up everyone else is. Not our problem!..

varentao::
"Simple rhetoric is what appeals to the US people in general - it has been the case for many years (Clinton, Bush Senior....and that other guy before him, forgot his name now....and so on, so forth...)..."

^^Yet tha rest of tha world is learning english, and becoming more like us...^^

"Still, i don't think he should be president...he isn't dumb. But he isn't too clever either. Too ignorant about certain things, methinks he relies too much on his staff (like Powell, Rumsfeld and all the rest)..."

^^that's how shit works. His staff takes care of alot of shit, cause we got alot of shit to take care of.^^

"And his knowledge of things outside the US is limited to say the least. For a man who is in charge of the most powerful nation on earth, that's worrying..."

^^He's not in charge of shit... He acts only as a voice of tha U.S. people as a majority. nothing happends, unless permission is granted through congress.^^

Tha Marines can act on there own though. No permission from tha people needed. They are an amphibious ready group that can attack and leave at any time, no-body can say shit about it...

-Navy Seals
-Marine Force Recon.
-Green Barets
-Delta Force

^^All Amphibious ready groups that are mission capable^^

peace....


I aint putting down the USA on the whole. But it's true, simple rhetoric is what appeals to the American population. And that usually is a good thing, sometimes i think Tony Blair is too complicated in his speeches, which then seems to exclude the 'less learned'...

I don't know what you mean by "yet the rest of the world is learning English, and becoming like us..."...like who? US? I'm aware people are learning English all over the world. It's the international language. And the US has played a big part in spreading it over the past 40 years or so with corporate globalisation n what not (especially over the last decade though)...but then the British Empire was the catalyst, they are the ones who implanted the language all over the world (all four corners, if you would)...but that's a different story...

And i know Presidents are supposed to rely on their staff. But as i said, it seems to me he relies a bit TOO MUCH on his staff on certain matters a president should know about...it impairs his ability to make judgment calls...but that's just what it seems, and my opinion, i don't know too many exacts in that situation...

..once again, i don't think Bush Junior is dumb, he's a fairly level headed Republican...but as said before, lacks in certain departments of knowledge (and possibly intelligence) that you'd expect from the leader of the most powerful nation on earth (well actually, what you'd expect from a leader of any well developed, strong miliatairy and economic nations e.g. UK, France, Germany..Japan..etc...)....

"He's not in charge of shit... He acts only as a voice of tha U.S. people as a majority. nothing happends, unless permission is granted through congress".

Unto the next part^^^ - The Republican party has such a strong foothold in the Congress, that it aint even funny. Don't you remember last year? The elections were a white wash for the Republicans...

...and to say he aint charge of shit is kind of ignorant. He's in charge of a lot, and can work the system (to an extent) to his (and his administration's) advantage. The President of the USA has a lot of power, especially when the congress is over flowing with Republicans, disrupting the balance to the extent that it stretches democracy to right to it's 'boundaries'.

Oh yeah, and that stuff you said at the start aint worth commenting on, man, ignorance is what it is. I mean damn, you got to accept people challenging the US...once more, it's democratic. And the WWII, saving the world thing....well, i'll leave it at that...

Dirty Shanks 03-19-03 12:50 PM

ok, I know where tha English language came from. I know where I came from. We just changed tha original version of proper English to what I think is called American. Simple, yes, fuck tha proper fagg shit with a cup of tea. U.S. started as nothin' but a few that thought tha british were bitch asses. So we fucked there asses up, and now look. WE are tha Super Power of tha world.

"I aint putting down the USA on the whole. But it's true, simple rhetoric is what appeals to the American population. And that usually is a good thing, sometimes i think Tony Blair is too complicated in his speeches, which then seems to exclude the 'less learned'..."

^^ Fuck tha proper tea cup shit. Bunch of fagg's when I hear ya voices, sorry... but that shit sounds gay as fuck. Complicated? how? I know what tha fuck he says all tha time. Smart, compared to Bush? I don't give a fuck, Bush does what he is told. His staff and many many others script tha shit he speaks. Bush has a mini-earphone in his ear that tells him what to say... He's just a puppet for tha government and its people.


haha! peace....

fabolous89 03-19-03 06:56 PM

ok...shanks...when i say "they had it coming"...you only watch cnn...cnn is an american channle...cnn will only show stories from america's side...they aren't going to make their country look bad...but why is iraq getting attacked??? they want the oil and thats it...bush is a terrorist...and that's the truth

G.Hod 03-19-03 07:27 PM

Unfortunately, the U.S. has been put (and has, to an extent, put itself) in a lose-lose situation with their current world status.. No matter what our government does, both praise and scrutiny will be abundant. As far as war with Iraq, is it DEFINITE that Congress will pass it with 2/3 of the votes? I haven't heard ANY discussion on it and it is a necessity if Bush wants war.



P.S. Ecklipse: Where's F. Money Bags been? No more Zacaroofs? :(

C-Section 03-19-03 07:32 PM

Quote:
Stop disrespecting our President. I'm behind him 500%. If u don't like it, leave tha U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you sound like sadaam, he tells people how they should live there lifes to, no one could talk out against him or they get killed good job!

C-Section 03-19-03 07:43 PM

we are going to war because of what could thats stupid, korea made threats to use nukes on us they kicked the un out of there country, why arent we at war with them? why dont we go to war with the world cause anyone could bomb us. and i also seen on tv were we where saying that we didnt want to have a vote with the un cause if we lost it would make us look bad, WTF is that, bush is willing to lose lifes just so he doesnt hurt his EGO! this shouldnt be called the war with iraq it should be called the war of bush's ego! fuck his nazi propaganda

ORIGINALCRIMINAL 03-19-03 07:50 PM

I SAY WE ASSASINATE THAT FUCKIN FAGGETTE UNLESS HES ON THE FRONT LINES HE SHOULDNT BE PUTTING US ON THE LINE

C-Section 03-19-03 07:54 PM

^^^^has bush ever faught in a war? i hope he has i would had to be lead into war by a idiot who has never been in one.

i forget who says this but someone says something like being lead to war by your fearless leader who has 800 secret serves agents watching his back or somethign like then when he said it it made alot of since.

like he is quick to take us to war while he sits protected in his white house surounder by 800 people who will die to keep him safe fuck bush

Dirty Shanks 03-19-03 08:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Eck-Lipse
ok...shanks...when i say "they had it coming"...you only watch cnn...cnn is an american channle...cnn will only show stories from america's side...they aren't going to make their country look bad...but why is iraq getting attacked??? they want the oil and thats it...bush is a terrorist...and that's the truth


Sorry my friend, you have been miss-led... "they want the oil" is what they tell you... We have many resources through-out tha U.S... we do not need there oil... It will never be tha U.S's oil. Get that straight... We are going to get ridd of his ass once and for-all before he try's to get rid of tha U.S. and tha rest of tha world. Terrorism, is 9/11... not tha U.S. fuckin' up Saddam or how ever you spell his shit...


Think!...peace

Dirty Shanks 03-19-03 08:08 PM

MyK.... are you that fat FUCK in ya avy?
just wondering man, I've been wanting to ask that for awhile...
let me know if you are, so I can clown on ya fat ass...


peace

varentao 03-20-03 08:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dirty Shanks
ok, I know where tha English language came from. I know where I came from. We just changed tha original version of proper English to what I think is called American. Simple, yes, fuck tha proper fagg shit with a cup of tea. U.S. started as nothin' but a few that thought tha british were bitch asses. So we fucked there asses up, and now look. WE are tha Super Power of tha world.

"I aint putting down the USA on the whole. But it's true, simple rhetoric is what appeals to the American population. And that usually is a good thing, sometimes i think Tony Blair is too complicated in his speeches, which then seems to exclude the 'less learned'..."

^^ Fuck tha proper tea cup shit. Bunch of fagg's when I hear ya voices, sorry... but that shit sounds gay as fuck. Complicated? how? I know what tha fuck he says all tha time. Smart, compared to Bush? I don't give a fuck, Bush does what he is told. His staff and many many others script tha shit he speaks. Bush has a mini-earphone in his ear that tells him what to say... He's just a puppet for tha government and its people.


haha! peace....


*Sighs*...Jebus...

C-Section 03-20-03 11:31 AM

thats not me thats jarred from subway LOL i wish i was that fat though yyyyyyyuuuuuummmmm fat

Finesse Streetz 03-21-03 10:21 AM

Myk:

"I SAY WE ASSASINATE THAT FUCKIN FAGGETTE UNLESS HES ON THE FRONT LINES HE SHOULDNT BE PUTTING US ON THE LINE"

Thats fukked up 2 say. But as far as oil goes, only 12% of our oil comes from tha middle east. Most of our oil comes from our nation, Venezula, Canada, most South American countries. How do you like those apples?

How does everybody feel now that tha war is turning into a complete success?


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