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arkatK 03-17-03 11:33 PM

is that really a freestyle???
 
how many rappers do you think really freestyle? weither its on the radio, on a mixtape, or whatever. I mean because youll hear the same eminem,cannibus,chino xL,evidence,etc,etc,etc... freestyles on 2 or 3 different tapes. WTF..


or does it come down to what your personal opinion of what a freestyle is?

Master Blaster 03-17-03 11:59 PM

^^^^^^your right for the most part

A lot of those Artists have freestyles that are the same but
just different beats

Written ~ Verse from paper

Freestyle ~ Verse from your head

And when it comes down to it...You have to be a 50 / 50 rapper
to be the complete package

Half of U should be able to freestyle
While the other Half should be able to write good songs

When it comes down to this Half & Half...Some rappers are 50 / 30
or even 40 / 20

You feel me

Some people like my cousin can freestyle for 5 minutes
without one pause but he rarely has anything written down

Me...I can write words till my hand cramps

But I can't freestyle for shit...Maybe for a few seconds

So when it comes down to it...It all depends on the rapper &
how fine he feels doing on or the other

But you should practice both because you never know

Who's / Who

You don't want to be a poetic writer battling a freestyler

Or

A freestyler battling a poetic writer

You just won't know if he's really coming from the dome or not

~1~

LaRyan Shabaz 03-17-03 11:59 PM

I used to get excited to find a "Canibus Freestyle" on the internet. Then I listened to more of his portfolio, and found that most of this shit was rehash. You can argue that those lines are theirs, and they think of them as they are a part of the artist's identity... but, cmon. I think you'll find Sage does honest freestyles. He can sound whack as fuck in them. Get his freestyle session with Apathy. When there's fuckups and stupid trains of thought, you KNOW it's a freestyle. A freestyle should really just be about fun... A beat and an artist coming off the dome with no writtens is what I consider.

I would like some heads to identify some good ones though, it's a type of exhibit I really enjoy.

arkatK 03-18-03 12:10 AM

Check the Mac Lethal Blaze battles

Finesse Streetz 03-18-03 12:57 AM

I know for a fact that JayZ does, or has, freestyled songs for albums. For example, if u really listen 2 him, he leaves one point to go to another point real quick. Thats how I do. I used to go to tha studio, freestyle about 10 takes, sit down pick out 16 of tha hottest lines, put it together, and dish out tha song. I mean, its a different form of freestyling a song, but I will freestyle it.

Some artist that do freestyle are:

Biggie
JayZ
Nas(Hott)
DMX(Tha Best 4 Past 3 years)
Jin
Poster Boy
Fabolous
Jadakiss
Beans

arkatK 03-18-03 01:05 AM

i heard somewhere that TASH did that for almost his whole Rap Life album

CHAMELEON 03-18-03 01:14 AM

andre nickatina can freestyle like a mad man

Yung 50 03-18-03 01:17 AM

ok heres da deal u have freestyles and mixtape freestyles a mixtape freestyle can be sumthin uve already written or recorded but havent put it out or dont plan to put it out so u use it randomly as u please or just a few quick lines u put together not really on a topic just spittin reel quick off da head now a freestyle is just when u spit all off dome u may have a few lins in storage but who doesnt but basically its just a display of how long u can go without fuckin up dont gotta make sense it just gotta rhyme now if i rhymes makes sense and is on a topic ure dope.........

fo'trill 03-18-03 07:35 AM

the best freestyler is andy milonakis

D-Dizzle 03-18-03 11:21 AM

Man I was thinking about this shit the other day. Those so called "Freestyles", that be on mixtapes and on Rap city and shit be prewitten. Thats for the poeple that belive a freestyle is a never heard before verse about no certain subject just talking about anything , from line to line. Then you got the off the dome frees where thats what it is... of the top. You can tell if somebody spittin' a written after they spit long enough. But for the most part all of ;em do it. I heard Eminem spit writtens (all those Wake Up Show Freestyles are written), Chino XL, Canibus, Ras Kass, all these cats thats lyrical all spit writtens because they don't wanna look like a ass on radio or t.v. Cuz when you freein' off the dome you gonna get caught after awhile sayin some dumb shit.

Lee Scott 03-18-03 01:09 PM

juice and supernat - dopest freestyle emcees

Killah Koz 03-18-03 05:03 PM

freestyle can mean 2 things

dropping off the dome

or

spitting a written verse to an already used beat


that probly explains it

self 03-19-03 01:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finesse Streetz
I know for a fact that JayZ does, or has, freestyled songs for albums. For example, if u really listen 2 him, he leaves one point to go to another point real quick. Thats how I do. I used to go to tha studio, freestyle about 10 takes, sit down pick out 16 of tha hottest lines, put it together, and dish out tha song. I mean, its a different form of freestyling a song, but I will freestyle it.

Some artist that do freestyle are:

Biggie
JayZ
Nas(Hott)
DMX(Tha Best 4 Past 3 years)
Jin
Poster Boy
Fabolous
Jadakiss
Beans



Yes, Jay doesnt write. He hasn't writen a lyric since his first album (so he says).

And Jin didn't freestyle. He came on stage with 2-4 bars written and then free'd the rest.

deathtoll 03-19-03 05:39 PM

big l could freestyle

10 O'Clock 03-19-03 05:49 PM

W0rd^
And GZA

Epedemik 03-19-03 06:25 PM

this thread has become another "whos the illest freestyler"

...but anyways

bigs freestyles on his albums are ill

so are mine...:)

arkatK 03-20-03 02:35 AM

rhyme sayers and freestyle fellowship are nice

AlcaTrakz 03-20-03 03:02 AM

Koz summed it up...

legally they have to call it a 'freestyle' so they dont get ass raped legally....

thats why shit on mixtapes are 'freestyles'

.pz.

dane 03-20-03 04:19 PM

lol how can u guys forget these guys??!?!

S-nat
juice!!!
COPYWRITE
JAKKI
esoteric
ALIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKIN EYEDEA!!!!!!!!!! he is a KILLLLLERR when it comes to frees
apathy
sage
ADM!!!!!!!!
killah priest i've heard can rip it to frees
big l
c rayz
illogic
slug
all of the arsonists
ILL fuckin BILLL
akbar

lots of emcees can free as they wish

fatman 03-20-03 04:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finesse Streetz
Some artist that do freestyle are:

Biggie
JayZ
Nas(Hott)


LMAO nas said himself he cant freestyle on the westwood show, he writes especialy for the shows sumtimes but he never freestyles...

em and proof freestyle, i duno about kuniver tho cos he came with a mad freestyle and no one was cheern or anythin in the background,
but i doubt most peeps realy freestyle, seen as they never get stuck and word things well,

self 03-20-03 05:07 PM

Eminem did a "freestyle" and he did the whole intro to M-E-T-H-O-D Man...that was just gay, lost all respect for him there.

Kkooly66 03-20-03 07:28 PM

he is right
I was gonna mention 50 cent did some desent freestyle (old stuff) most of his new ain't
J Hood did some
Eminem claims he does freestyle which is bullshit

PrestaH 03-20-03 07:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dane
lol how can u guys forget these guys??!?!

S-nat
juice!!!
COPYWRITE
JAKKI
esoteric
ALIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCKIN EYEDEA!!!!!!!!!! he is a KILLLLLERR when it comes to frees
apathy
sage
ADM!!!!!!!!
killah priest i've heard can rip it to frees
big l
c rayz
illogic
slug
all of the arsonists
ILL fuckin BILLL
akbar

lots of emcees can free as they wish


That's because this is a "WHAT IS A FREESTYLE" thread, not a fucking "WHO'S THE BEST FREESTYLER?" thread. You never even heard killah priest rip it to a free but yet you can't believe no one mentioned him? fuck outta here. I hate it when people name names..

that should be the real definition of a backpacker..

FiL-Be-iLL 03-20-03 10:06 PM

"And when it comes down to it...You have to be a 50 / 50 rapper
to be the complete package"


hmm...i guarantee u that 90% of all hiphop recording artists write each 'n every verse they display to you audibly...freestyling in essence is a central key top hiphop, but if ur a recording artist, u cant waste studio time everytime u fuck up a freestyle verse cuz come on, every freestyle verse ive ever heard had a few fuck ups here an there...


so why not eliminate the troubles by writing the perfect verse with topic an all included along wit the beat? studio time is fuckin expensive...


i say noone freestyle anymore, unless ur called SuperNat...every "freestyle" u hear ona clue/Whoo/Slay/DooWop/TonyToca/FunkFlex/GreenLatern mixtape is usualy a written verse so the artist doesnt make himself look an sound like a dumbass...
oNe...

SKiTzo_NiCCa 03-20-03 10:46 PM

On some of dem mixtapez dey b sayin "freestyle" but U KNO dat sum of dem b lyin cuz some of dose freestyles b soundin betta den a prewrite n how da fuck dem niggaz dunt b fuckin up n b spittin 4 like 2 or 3 minz str8.........I kno everybody fuckz up afta awhile wen dey spittin......dem niggaz dunt even b stutterin........n derez no way 2 do a second take on a freestyle if dey mess up

Kobra 03-30-03 12:31 PM

in ma vocab a freestyle is a rap that hasnt been pre written n is from tha brain that you've thought of

i can freesyle basic rhymes but when it comes to freesylin multies n all that shit i cant do it i can write some deep stuff down though

Th3 K1d 03-30-03 02:53 PM

nas really freestyles

tRiLL 04-01-03 05:19 AM

biggie, super nat, mc juice i got a lot of his wake up show frees he fucks up n shit but they r funny, eyedea/slug (the whole atmosphere crew) they can freestyle for ova 30 mins, jin, posterboy no doubts there at all

eminem CAN freestyle but on his PSYCHO BOOTLEG underground album most of his songs r freestyles i know cuse he doesnt have a clue what he's talkin about yes they are with scam..yes u hear that fan guy mention scam's name on the Stan song

JuSa9iNe 04-01-03 03:40 PM

If People Are Sayin Big L Freestyled Wut He Did In The '98 Freestyle' I think They Are Stupid Cause There is No Way Anyone Can Think Of Lines Like The But-Head One And The New York Nicks One In A Freestyle, Hell Most Of The Time It's Hard Enuff TO Think Of Rhymes When Freestyling, Let Along Meta-phors And Multi-Syllables For Like 3 Minutes Straight .. Anywayz, I Dont Care ..
Peace

fgee 04-01-03 04:35 PM

respect to anyone who can free style worth a shit straight off the top of their head cos i'm shit at it and it's a talent

Chaos 04-01-03 05:15 PM

no matter where you look that Crooked I verse (the Optimus Prime one with Chino XL), is listed as a freestyle but we all know it ain't.

I really don't know who freestyles but in my opinion, how is it possible for people like Canibus to freestyle like they say they do?

RealizE 04-03-03 07:45 PM

idiots..

the dopest battler an freestyler out right now is..

..A.L.I.A.S

damn, go figure, half of yall would claim commercial rappers ne ways...

chambers 04-03-03 08:12 PM

bump

chambers 04-03-03 08:15 PM

i dotn know where that came from, i typed a whole load of stuff.......:s

but it all boiled down to this: where can i get good freestyling from, i live in the UK and cant get an freestyle cds or tapes or anything, i was wondering if they sell that kinda thing in america or if its all bootleg?

salient 04-03-03 08:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by deathtoll
big l could freestyle


of course, the kat was insane.

aNoN- 04-04-03 07:21 PM

anyone who says a freestyle can consist of written shit is a lil fake bitch mc...... ha ...... every word that comes out of ur mouth is just wahtever pops in ur head...... u can tell when somones freestyling or not

MCaesar 04-05-03 02:05 PM

Supernatural and Atmosphere dont prewrite their "freestyles".

J.T. KNUCKLES 04-06-03 01:38 AM

through all this bullshit and hott freestylers yall forgot about the ONLY tru freestyler is and thats KRS-ONE!!!!!!!!


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