Def-Jux Vs Rocafella
 

Aight, was thinkin about this today.

Def Jux is one of the strongest if not the strongest indie Label, Roc is the strongest Mainstream label.

Completly different but which do yall think has stronger artist?

Def-Jux:

El-P
AesopRock
Murs
Mr.Lif
RJD2


Rocafella:

Camron
Jay-Z
Freeway
Beanie Sigel
Memphis Bleek


Def-Jux for me

peace

yo!!! lol!!!
roca is by far the better........
-jay-z
-mop
-twista
-the diplomats
-freeway
-dirt mcquirt
-beanie seagul
-memphis bleek.....thats a good roster....def jux is just amateurs......aesop cant battle for shit.....murs is ok, mr lif is ok, the rest wont put up

K first of all, The Diplomats are wack as hell thier first album proves it. Freeway is a terrible Lyricist, the rest of the Roc crew is decent. Cam is prolly the strongest, Jay really fucked up his shit after Reasonable Doubt.

Aesop doesnt really battle dude, have you listened to Daylight or Labor Days, his shits amazing.

Amateurs? most of the Def-Jux crew has more talent then anyone on the Roc.....

dont rocafella now own ODB ?

yea, just signed.

This is probably the stupidest question ever asked. No competition. Definitive Jux is by far the better of the two. Rocafella sucks ass. They have no good, let alone halfway decent, artists, but Def Jux has nothing but talent.

As for that moron that picked Rocafella, claiming that Def Jux can't battle, sorry to burst your bubble but Roc isn't that great at anything. I don't really care if Aesop doesn't battle or not, the fact is that he is a dope artist and pulls out classic albums almost everytime. El-P, Aesop Rock, MURS, Mr. Lif, Rjd2, Cannibal Ox,and others that come out with thought provoking quality and classic albums, and the Roc has yet to deliver one.

like you said they done compare if you like undreground shit its jux, if you like jiggy shit its roc

LoL...How True...Although Envisionz Is A Def Junkie By The Looks Of Things So I Can Let You Off For Posting Such A Weird Vs Topic ..Hehe :D

vote: Def Jux

Def jux

Dont say shit my personal opinion ai

I love Def-Jux alot.....not much favortisim when i made the thread, just wanted to see what yall thought.

peace

Aesops kool...

but even he gets boring after a while...

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This is probably the stupidest question ever asked. No competition. Definitive Jux is by far the better of the two. Rocafella sucks ass. They have no good, let alone halfway decent, artists, but Def Jux has nothing but talent.

As for that moron that picked Rocafella, claiming that Def Jux can't battle, sorry to burst your bubble but Roc isn't that great at anything. I don't really care if Aesop doesn't battle or not, the fact is that he is a dope artist and pulls out classic albums almost everytime. El-P, Aesop Rock, MURS, Mr. Lif, Rjd2, Cannibal Ox,and others that come out with thought provoking quality and classic albums, and the Roc has yet to deliver one.

* Stands Up And Applauses.......Tears Shed........Walks Out Wondering Why The Hell Would He Compare The Too*

Rocafella sucks. Dip Anthem? roflmao

Vote - Def

tough battle

the roc vs def jux-no competiton, def jux gets it.

Def Jux. . no questions

Im really glad to see that alot of cats here are feelin the Def.

Jay-z has talent . . .













. . . he just don't know how to use it.

i hope he decides to use it on "Black Album"

peace

i doubt it. hes too much about the money.

ight Def Jux has more talent. as in your opinions.

(i don't agree with 98%of the thread tho.)

but if half the roc artists would take the same concepts that your Def Jux crew uses... the Roc will make you their fans.

Def Jux will tell you themselves, no competition with the ROC. you kids swear to your mother's backbone.. that mainstream artists have no talent. they have... but that's not what sells however. sad, but true.

i'd say the roc.

(and i have def jux in my playlist, and barely ROC artists.)

fuckin hell haters!!!!!!!! as much as u dotn want 2 believae it these 2 do comapre they are both hip hop oriented labels. As far as im concered the jukies smash it on the lyrics and concepts side, but if u gave me some Kanye West or Just Blaze shit which hasnt been influenced by those SOB's Neptunes id probably rather have that than some Fantastic damage El-P esque production.

he said it would fall along the lines of Reasonable Doubt and stay away from the style of Blueprint 2, so i think less cameo's and shit and just strait up jay. I really hope the album is sick though, i wouldnt want to see jay go out bad.

roc by far i think that jigga an cam are the best on the label but u got to think they already been where def jux are, underground an producin the raw hip hop shit coz they dont need to know more cz i hate to tell u summin the industry is alot more bout sales an makin money than u makin it out to be

first of all to envisions! KAY!!!
second of all the backpacking stupid ass geek that dissed me, yeah your really that stupid......
def jux got whored by this amateur cat i dunno who it was, and then they pussed out of the battle....
second of all....aesop can pit a good verse once in a while but he no battle rapper without a doubt.....
EL-p hah you guys are insane
mr lif is the only one that can hit hard of def jux.....
matter o fact twista can take the whole label by himself.....
jay-z if aint dickridin nas you know can diss pretty good(takeover), so can the MOP which is got huge street cred.....
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nah really use your brains before you say sometin back packers its funny...
oh and to that emotional slut envisions you asked a question and i gave you a honest answer so yall shut the fuck up or you can ask me to add you to my record............





PS: iam a underground fan

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Whatever, truth in the matter is that Rocafella has no good artists. Tell me one thought provoking, inspirational, or groundbreaking album that ROC has produced. Tell me just one that could even compare to the likes of Labor Days, Fantastic Damage, The Cold Vein, DeadRinger, The End of the Beginning, or I Phantom.

Again, you bring up a point that is pointless. I don't care about battling. I would much rather listen to a conceptual album instead of someone shouting battle lyrics at an invisible opponent. Doesn't mean I don't listen to it at times, but I prefer concepts that inspire and make you think.

You want to call me out for a battle? Go ahead, dick. You can call me out until you're blue in the face. I won't respond or even acknowledge the thread. I don't battle. I don't feel as though it has helped me advance or improve upon my writing talents. But you can call me out all that you want. And you can call me a pussy, and you can claim that I am just making up a lame excuse to duck a battle, and you can state whatever the Hell you want. Truth in the matter is that ever since I have been here, that has been my philosophy. Ask some people, check my posting history.

Summing up, Twista is terrible. The Takeover sucked. Call me out all that your ass wants to, I don't care. You just said, "Fuck you, you niggah." You don't need the second "you" and I'm white so I suppose you mislabeled who that was directed to. Def Jux still is better than Rocafella.

yeah whatever fruit.....the thread says jux vs roca.....

plus tha fuc you dont make sense...i only like phantom I and just a couple of joints of labor days...the rest is wack.....

el-p spits wack lyrics on rock beats....cold vein was ok, not that good but average the rest is garbage.....

now compare that to kamakazi or adrenaline rush, memphis beek, and REASONABLE doubt.....

yeah.....

aesop rock can be tight but alot of his shit sometimes dont flow at all therefore skip track is inevitable....

If we are going to look at pure talent Definitive Jux is by far better, plain and simple.

i was pratically raised on Jay-z's Reasonable Doubt. Thought provoking? shit it gave me a different grip on life. a album about elevating from the hard ships, and bullshit of what life, has to offer you, into success. what has def jux done for you.

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LoL....That Made Me Laugh..

That Was The Best Hip Hop Album Of 2001...I Know Non UG Heads That Even Agree With Me..

And Since When Did This Thread Turn Into A "Vs. Battle Thread" ?

Envisionz Said "Strongest Artists"

Battling Ability Has Nothing To Do With Anything, Although Im Pretty Sure Camu Tao Could Make A Better Battle Track Than The Whole Roc.. :rolleyes:

*phew*... aint really into that other crew or what not but R.O.C. is tight...
Cam
Jay
Bleek
Siegel
Gunz
M.O.P.

not so much freeway after his meeting with cass i lost ratings from him.... but anyways... im seeing some hateration towards tha ROC.... f'realz...

I agree with you, but that's only one album. Reasonable doubt is one of my altime fav's but it doesnt dig the Roc outta the hole its in now.....7 years later...... But at least Jux come's with better shit then "Diplomatic Immunity".....for real now

There's more quality artist on Def right now, its as simple as that. One album doesnt make a record label, sorry.

ROC wins no contest whatever those fools say......the best Hip hop lp of 2001 was the chronic lp by dre, dumb ass....and it got awarded by the source XXL and urb magazine.....

yall kan keep talkin whatever but the fact remains that roc has way more street cred and way better sales cuz their fans wanna hear their shit.....even on the mix tapes where their underground freestyles are bough too,
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my 2 cent

i dunno how you can compare the two...one is gangsta rap orientated...and wack...and the other...is just def jux...no need to explain it...murs would have to the most gangsta of def jux...but thats like so limited its not even worth talking about...you cant compare two completly different styles o label...now if you compared roc,and then the mobb,then youd have something to cmpare,both very similar.but i know nothing baou tgangsta rap,so i wouldnt know if they were cool with each other or what...

but anyway,def jux is iller...iller...so much iller then that commercial bullshit churned out from the roc...

pshh

The only magazine there worth a damn is URB.....

And the best album of 2001 is The Cold Vein.

Wow Like I Care What A Hip Hop Magazine Says And Does...They're Ignorant And Ignore The UG Anyway..So Its Just Slightly Biased..

Although We Can Argue Allday About This... Its Always Gonna Be UG Vs Wackne*Cough* I Mean Mainstream.

^lol^

you got to respect Rook-E-G tho. the kid forever sticks to his guns.

yeah Envisionz ... you are right.