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Ajax 0042 09-03-03 09:22 PM

Whats it mean to you ???
 
What does being an american and having the freedoms we have, mean to you? I know some people couldnt give a shit, and some do, and others thinkin im a big ass herb for posting this. But what does it mean to you, being an american having the rights to do what you want to do??? cuz if you think about it, if you were in another country, you wouldnt have the right to rap or to do poetry, and in some places someone chooses the topic for you an if ya do different they kill ya, if we all were some were not in a free country like American this site wouldnt last 10 minutes. All of us would have to hid or give up the things you do so your not locked up fo life or killed, look at middle eastern countrys, some of them would shoot ya if so much as spat in the wrong direction. What does being an American mean to you??? And what would you do to preserve it???

C-Section 09-03-03 09:47 PM

it doesnt mean shit to me. id rather live in canada.

James Bondage 09-03-03 09:47 PM

Quote:
What does being an american and having the freedoms we have, mean to you?


I Live In England, So It Means Fuck All To Me!

Taktik 09-03-03 09:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by C-section
it doesnt mean shit to me. id rather live in canada.


Werd and for all of canadians, if we couldn't live here we'd live anywere but states

mdizz 09-03-03 09:59 PM

yo, canada has some seriously fine ass bitches
word to section
fuck america
id rather be in africa bonin big booty neked simbolian bitches wit aids and not even know it..but noooo im stuck here with worries and responsibilities....fuckin white ppl

Crysis 09-03-03 09:59 PM

The US sucks everyone should move to a certain place in europe where they have weed shops...im sure you all know where that is...or move to japan cuz japanese food is hella tight

Perfekt 09-03-03 09:59 PM

Bein An American Means Tellin People Not to use Nuclear Weapons Than blowin their Countries Up....... Or Sayin we Are killing Sadam To help the Civilians Out.. But once hes dead We Get Up and Bolt the fuck outta there... Bein a n American means one thing


Bein A hypocrit

Ajax 0042 09-03-03 10:02 PM

wow some true americans...

Ajax 0042 09-03-03 10:12 PM

i see what perfekt is gettin at and he has a pont

Crysis 09-03-03 10:26 PM

for one thing i myself am not proud to be an american.......The government takes all of OUR hard earned money through taxes and then spends it on shit like new limos for the pres. and for bombing innocent countries......wtf?........we work to make money when in truth it all goes to them....so if u think about it....you work for 10$ when everything adds up its like your workin for 6.50! this country is screwed when different strokes stars run for govenor.....this so called free country is actually not free at all....are we allowed to smoke a plant that comes from the ground???? YES! but only the one that has no affect on your mind (aka tobacco) but yet we cant smoke something that doesnt contain shit such as niccoteen (sp) and tars, that also makes us feel good bout our day...while the pres is a coke addict who can not be arrested for his actions........hmmmm hypocritic leader for a hypocritic country....why do so many ppl wanna say god bless america when AMERICA KILLS INNOCENT PEOPLE IN wAR EVERYDAY!.....why do ppl wanna say UNITED WE STAND when there are more ppl murding ppl than there are ppl being friends???....this country is fucked in my opinion...FUCKED....we are all just like fish in a fish tank...i mean whats so free about a country where you have to have permission to leave and to enter? (passport) you have to PAY just to park your car??what is so good about a country that has cops who dore more drugs then everyone else, then they go arrest ppl for drugs while they are HIGH!?! what is so good about a country where you have to be 18 to see a PAIR OF FUCKIN TITS!?!?! what is so good about a country where a 15 yr old guy cant fuck a 18 yr old girl, without it being called statutory rape (i know you 15 yr olds out there wishin)??? the truth is we are all just suckers to the american dream....be free, do what you want......then get arrested for it

The End 09-03-03 10:28 PM

Fuck Canada.

U.S. is the dopest/most powerful country in the world. All you jealous bastards need to get off our dicks.

Crysis 09-03-03 10:29 PM

i agree we are dope when it comes to being powerful....but what about dope when it comes to being arrested for weed???? is that dope???

C-Section 09-03-03 10:31 PM

but seriously there is no such thing as freedom. we are told that becuase its a good form of propaganda to get people to suport the country. but our lifes are actually being controled. we just dont realize it cause it been that way for such along time.

if we were truley freedom we would be able to go to what ever school we wanted to go to. if i tried to transfer from bernalillo to cibola to get a better education i wouldnt be able to do that.

during the world wars and vietnam people preached freedom, but if people didnt go to war when they were called on they were thrown in jail. people that walk streets protesting wars are harrassed and thrown in jail. but people who walk the streets supporting the wars are "good americans" and they are free to do what ever they want.

if you look at poor people, some are poor cause they are lazy, but alot of them are woorking 2-3 jobs just to support their family, they are tring to make a change but they arent allowed to grow, because people in hire places look down on them and make it harder for them to get better jobs. they arent free.

of coarse we aint as bad as middle eastern countrys but we aint free. anyone saying we are free is an idiot.

i could go on some more but im sick and fighting my sleep. i dont even know if what i typed makes since

8-off 09-03-03 10:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by The End
Fuck Canada.

U.S. is the dopest/most powerful country in the world. All you jealous bastards need to get off our dicks.


dats wuzup, canada is for bitches, all they do is be gay:)

euro is aight, they still gay though:)

8-off 09-03-03 10:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Crysis
i agree we are dope when it comes to being powerful....but what about dope when it comes to being arrested for weed???? is that dope???



whoops, jus ignore my last post, canada is da shit, smokin and tokin in public its wats good

James Bondage 09-03-03 10:39 PM

^ Hop Off My Avatar, Hoe. .

Jes 09-03-03 10:40 PM

My american patriotism spans a little further for me than these folks. Although I'm against much of what the government does, this form of government gives people the most freedom. Yes, Canada has one-upped us by recognizing gay marriages, but I don't agree with alot of their ways and regulations. Africa itself is in a ongoing war. And many countries either rely on American resources and economy or follow our suit on certain stances. America is the leading country in regards to activisim and sub-activity are constitution allows us to congregate with who we please. Of course the bad side to this is hate groups such as KKK neo-nazi's, and black panthers reformed. But, we have many volunteer groups that help with worldy causes, the Peace Corp for one, and abolisionists against capitalisim, and obviously the list goes on. I understand that other activity and groups such as RAWA are formed over seas, but for the majority we hold an absurd number of activity groups (good and bad), religions, and blah...

I just think that despite alot of the shit that needs adjusting, America still provides its people with the most liberty to the pursuit of happiness.

just tossing in my change.

..Jack Hanna.. 09-03-03 10:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by The End
Fuck Canada.

U.S. is the dopest/most powerful country in the world. All you jealous bastards need to get off our dicks.


B, dude, when did you become naive?

sure, america is the most powerful country, but never the dopest. canada isn't a hell of a lot better, but basically all your federal government does is bomb people and ignore the homeless. At least we have some Coast to Coast Law.

Our goverment just ignores our starving farmers and sends money to iraq because they're starving, so I'm in no place to say Canada is better, but still. The reason they're starving is because we couldn't export our beef to america and elsewhere, because an AMERICAN cow happened to be discovered with mad cow in BC, and AMERICA said they wouldn't trade beef. What the fuck is the deal with that?

You guys fucking suck. Everyone Fucking sucks. Fuck the world, I'm moving to fiji.

(I might have some wrong info, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)

prophiit 09-03-03 11:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by The End
Fuck Canada.

U.S. is the dopest/most powerful country in the world. All you jealous bastards need to get off our dicks.


^Werd!!! We may not be perfect but no country is.........as far as I'm concerned we are the best there is..........find somewhere better where you have as many rights and protections and a voice in the government and maybe i'll change my mind but until then...........we ARE the DOPEST!!!!!

The End 09-03-03 11:57 PM

LMAO, Making random comments to get a reaction from our canadian members was rather enjoyable. In case you didn't understand, I was just kidding. Although, I do love the U.S. even with it's imperfections and still believe we are the best country on the planet, I am not against other countries. Heh, although it is fun to "blame Canada."

Crysis 09-04-03 12:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by The End
LMAO, Making random comments to get a reaction from our canadian members was rather enjoyable. In case you didn't understand, I was just kidding. Although, I do love the U.S. even with it's imperfections and still believe we are the best country on the planet, I am not against other countries. Heh, although it is fun to "blame Canada."


lmao....true true we are one of the most civilized countries there is...just look at places like afghanistan and think...you have it good here... but the government is for shit

The Necromancer 09-04-03 07:04 AM

I know they aint be teaching this scheiße in schools but...

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

~~~
Buoyed by victories in World Wars I and II and the end of the Cold War in 1991, the US remains the world's most powerful nation-state. The economy is marked by steady growth, low unemployment and inflation, and rapid advances in technology.
~~~
air pollution resulting in acid rain in both the US and Canada; the US is the largest single emitter of carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels; water pollution from runoff of pesticides and fertilizers; very limited natural fresh water resources in much of the western part of the country require careful management; desertification (In other words, unless we be willing to pay billions of dollars on purifying salt water, we be screwed.)
~~~
white 77.1%, black 12.9%, Asian 4.2%, Amerindian and Alaska native 1.5%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.3%, other 4% (2000)
note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean a person of Latin American descent (including persons of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin) living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.)
~~~
Protestant 56%, Roman Catholic 28%, Jewish 2%, other 4%, none 10% (1989)
~~~
Dependent areas: American Samoa, Baker Island, Guam, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Johnston Atoll, Kingman Reef, Midway Islands, Navassa Island, Northern Mariana Islands, Palmyra Atoll, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Wake Island (In other words you best respect me or else I'll tell all my fellow American Samoans to stop giving you fish.)
~~~
The US has the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of $37,600. (Also note that we are capitilist, not communist. If we were communist, the government would take ALL our money, instead of just a sizeable portion. Then again, we would also be reimbursed with everything we need to live. Which not everyone has.)
~~~
The years 1994-2000 witnessed solid increases in real output, low inflation rates, and a drop in unemployment to below 5%. The year 2001 saw the end of boom psychology and performance, with output increasing only 0.3% and unemployment and business failures rising substantially. (Which may or may not be a nice way of saying, Clinton good, Bush bad.)
~~~
Population below poverty line: 12.7% (2001 est.) (That's way too much in my opinion.)
~~~
Exports - commodities: capital goods, automobiles, industrial supplies and raw materials, consumer goods, agricultural products (What it DOESN'T say is that the biggest export America has is trash. Literal garbage.)
~~~
Military expenditures - dollar figure: $276.7 billion (Suddenly a billion dollars a week to attack Iraq doesn't seem as expensive.)
~~~
Illicit drugs: consumer of cocaine shipped from Colombia through Mexico and the Caribbean; consumer of heroin, marijuana, and increasingly methamphetamine from Mexico; consumer of high-quality Southeast Asian heroin; illicit producer of cannabis, marijuana, depressants, stimulants, hallucinogens, and methamphetamine; money-laundering center (So wait... if I buy drugs imported from SOUTH AMERICA, according the government, I support terrorist in THE MIDDLE EAST. How the FUCK do they figure THAT?!?!)

Und das ist alles.

~Shalom~

Ajax 0042 09-04-03 08:00 AM

our goverment is run by people who only want to get richer and more powerful, like others said theyd rather take over a new place instead of worrin bout ours, like homeloess and other shit. if they changed some laws it would do alot, and we best not start shit in other countrys till our own is on the right track. The goverment is waisting our money for munitions and shit to use on other countrys worth nothing to us. for years we never fought till attacked, now we went from the attracked to the attacker...

Jes 09-04-03 01:06 PM

^^^ there are many government instituted programs for the homeless and unemployed other than gov. aid. Some will train those to get a job as well as pay for rehabilitation for drug abuse. And despite all that we still have people with out homes and bordering on poverty. I do agree some of the financial brackets need adjusting, but I feel it'll eventually come in time, mid-class is the ruling class.

The average homeless person makes 10 an hour. thats more than Mcdonald's could ever give. Some people choose to live that way. I mean I have a very big heart and I feel compassion towards humanity, but I've seen the same guy standing on the same corner, with his same vietnam vet sign, he's notorious. It was rumored that a pizzaboy actually delivered pizza to this vietnam vets house, and discovered he was living decent.

So yeah B-squared, there is still homelessness, and as long as there are lazy people and drug abusers, homelessness is here to stay. But you have to see that our homeless people are better treated and live alot better than say those in parts of Africa.

bouncedoggydog 09-04-03 01:26 PM

I am completely embarrased for those Americans who posted assinine comments about thier own Country. You know what, screw all this debating and slaming the US, if your not happy with you're Country, then please leave. Go live in your ideal country, and then shut up when someone invades your borders and transforms your people in the name of religion. Don't call, look or expect the US, to come bail your ass out, yet again. I am honestly disgusted by such idiotic rhetoric, juvinille platforms from which most speak, and the blatant lack of resepect for anything good. I will keep my cooments to myself about my feelings for this great nation. I don't need to describe my thoughts on freedom, cuz each one of your post, speak volumes for our freedoms.

This thread in an other "Country" would get most of you killed and or worse. So as you mock away, you are undoubtedly embracing this Country and it's freedoms. <--Point made!

shiznit 09-04-03 02:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Crysis
move to japan cuz japanese food is hella tight



^errrr...ive been to japan and food there was ...ahhh i dont even know how to describe it...we went there for a few weeks and we got home we were so craving for real food. Sushis are good but the rest..uhhh..let me think about it. NOT. But i would definitely say Japan is a pretty nice place...no doubt about that.



oh yeah and by the way...

Freedom with Limitations...thats being an American.


and that is ^ WORD

Split~Barz 09-04-03 03:00 PM

Lmao...

self 09-04-03 03:02 PM

Blame Canada
Blame Canada

Freepost Like Whoa

Split~Barz 09-04-03 03:04 PM

^ U also....

Ajax 0042 09-04-03 05:48 PM

Bounce is very true with saying This thread in an other "Country" would get most of you killed and or worse. So as you mock away, you are undoubtedly embracing this Country and it's freedoms. <--Point made!

which is like i said in the beggining of the thread, i know this country is the best finacially, power and at heart, but before we go and rescue other countrys, we should do so to our own. Now a days people dont give a shit of the rights we have and the freedom we have, people simply do not care about what this country used to be, and should be. Our country is starting to take the turn all other empires have., people who live in the country/empire lose unity and trust with echother. If you look back at all empires (ex. Roman,Ottoman Turks, Arabs, ect) they all failed in the end becouse people simply didnt care about the rights and what they had and could have. when you look at the flag what do you see???

Ajax 0042 09-04-03 05:49 PM

and split bars STFU god damn herb

Maven 09-04-03 06:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by The End
LMAO, Making random comments to get a reaction from our canadian members was rather enjoyable. In case you didn't understand, I was just kidding. Although, I do love the U.S. even with it's imperfections and still believe we are the best country on the planet, I am not against other countries. Heh, although it is fun to "blame Canada."



LOL yeah, shut up, just cuz I went off the handle.
I was listening to KRS while stoned, it always results in a rant, if a rather incoherant one.

blame Canada all you want, but at least I won't be getting drafted if ol Bushy decides to starty a war :P

bouncedoggydog 09-04-03 06:51 PM

When I look at the US Flag I see:

The ability of a people to stand up for what they believe.
Reassurance for parents who want thier children to grow up free of tyranny.
Acceptance for those practicing in anything outside of the norm (within the scope of the law)
As a father I see the endless and countless opprotunites available for those who want it most.
Life in a land where Families are free to shape the views, values and morals of thier offspring.
Infinate means of educating ones self and people.
A Country willing to fight and die for the overall good of humanity.
Uncensored access to information, educational, spiritual, and political.

Most importantly, I see a Country where children can grow up with thier innocense in place. Our childrens innocense is by far my greatest concern for this and every other Country.

Until you mature and even have children of your own, many may not comprehend my position.

I believe the worlds greatest resource is our Youth, and I will die defending that resource, yours or mine!!!!

I am not proud of everything in US history, but I am proud of the good the US has provided to so many. As well as the other Countries who activily stand down inhumanity...No one or no State is or ever will be perfect, but ask yourself this, honestly what would this world be like for you, if the US fell to hostile nations...

Canadians? Europeans? Islanders? Whoever? Zionist? Care to enlighten us?

I do hope you give it an honset thought, because it would have a drastic impact on most all...

kgm 09-04-03 06:51 PM

^You wouldn't get drafted anyway, your only fourteen.^^

Too Late

bouncedoggydog 09-04-03 07:09 PM

^ Shit at fourteen I would have signed up for the draft, where ever they sent me, just had to be better than the war zone I grew up in...

"blame Canada all you want, but at least I won't be getting drafted if ol Bushy decides to starty a war "
^quoted by understatement

I understand your position, (not wanting to be drafted into war) but I hope it doesn't mean that you have nothing your willing to fight for. I am sure everyone one of you have something close to your heart, that you are willing to fight to preserve, a child, a mother, a family, a friend, a belief.... If not, then you're already dead!

Ajax 0042 09-04-03 07:19 PM

(directed too bounce)

Bounce i agree with you in both of your posts, i too see similar picture when i look at the flag and youth is the greatest recource, but youth thses days dont give a shit about the flag their country nor those who died and fought for there rights. all they want to do is be in ther own little world were everyone tends to them. They protest and hate thedraft cuz they dont want to go fight for there country, What happened to the days were every american would lay down there lives for their country and or helping another country??? People today are more worried about gettin stoned n bonin someone, when their country is at a high risk of faluir, thank god that poeple like you stand up for their country in homeland defense, homeland were 250 million poeple dont give a shit about it. sad huh???

Ajax 0042 09-04-03 07:22 PM

understatement your a weak hearted herb who would rather hide instead of fight and defend your homeland, and last i checked if it wasnt for the US saving your ass everytime you ladies got in a bind you would be fucked beyond bilief

C-Section 09-04-03 07:29 PM

you probabley didnt even care before 9/11. everone got branwashed with patriotism after that.

shut the fuck up. all you guys speaking patriotism could give a fuckless before 9/11 stop tring to front liek super americans.

i didnt care before that and i still dont care

Ajax 0042 09-04-03 07:36 PM

FUCK YOU ive been in this all my life, im jus waitin till im 18 to enlist, ive into the military as long as i can remember, im not a fair wether cat when something happens i act, so back the fuck off

Ajax 0042 09-04-03 07:45 PM

C if you call your self an american, why dont you givew a fuck about anything to do with america all you sao is id rather live in canada when we save n support their asses all the time if you hate america so much get the fuck out


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