Is Jay-Z Coming At Common Sense?
 

Sounds like Jay is coming at Common Sense in the song Moment of Clarity, produced by Eminem, on the Black album.

I don't know if people remember, but. . Common would always throw little jabs at Jigga, cause he talks about Bentleys, poppin bubbly and ice. . Maybe this is a response. . or maybe just another little witty rap. Sounds kinda direct though. .

"I wish I could rap more like Common Sense./ But I sold over 5 mil. .looks like I'm not rhyming like Common Sense./ Looks like I've been using my Common Sense. ."


your thoughts?

My thoughts...die Jay Z

but on this... i think it was a jab...

Hope common finds "The Bitch In You"

na cuzzin i don't think he's goin at Common fo'real fo'real juss a witty line ya'mean........ i mean u could take it that way but u could also say that he wishes he's lyrics could be hot like Common's u dunno.... but JayZ already announced that he didn't dis anybody in of his songs so i mean

jayz has been uppin common and talib lately, he was just on howard stern and shouted out underground rappers for not falling for what they stand for, in replace of money, and staying true to their roots...on the black album, moment of clarity is just givin people like talib and common some props...jay's actually getting at his fans tho (this is like the third diss to his fans), cause he's sayin he dumbs down his lyrics to make that money, to get a bigger fanbase...but i agree with it, cause mostly any artist with a huge fanbase, is gonna have like 75 percent of them being morons.

i dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars,
they critized me for it yet they all yell holla.
if skills sold truth be told,
i'll probaly be lyrically Talib Kweli.
truthfully i wanna rhyme like Common Sense...
but i did 5 mil, I ain't be rhymin like Common since...
when ya sense got that much in common,
and you been hustlin since u'r inception,
fukk perception... go with what makes sense.
since i know what i'm up against,
we as rappers must decide whats most important,
and i cant help the poor if i'm one of them,
so i got rich and gave back to them.. thats the win-win.
so next time you see the homie and his rims spin,
just know my mind is workin just like them... rims that is

dam wrong thread
jay z is ok i guess

Well, there are two different versions of the lyric......

If it was a diss to Common then Jay is going to get humiliated....I mean......we all heard what happened when Ice Cube tried to step to Common.....

i dont think it is a diss when you read between the lines
then he is actually giving commom props...
didnt get it til tingly broke it down
but i thought he was taking a shot at common too...
i dont think he wants beef wit common and i dont think
common wants any beef wit jay either...

Iss To The D

^ I thought the same. The way its worded makes it seem like an indirect diss, but it is there.

its not a diss, he is saying he would rather be like common and talib kweli but that doesnt sell. he was saying its common sence to do what makes money, instead of being like common sence and make music the way you like it

exactly^^^
and he wants to do whatever it takes for him to sell and make money on behalf of his successand so he can give back to the community...

"we as rappers must decide whats most important,
and i cant help the poor if i'm one of them,
so i got rich and gave back to them.. thats the win-win."

Diss.

Lets Get Him Fella's

Word.
Kids just dont want to see beef in case their precious Jay Z loses.

Powder Puff Niggers. .

^^ha ha ha

comical, but did he put er instead of a....forgive me im just an nigga overprotective of the word nigga. As for the bars i think Jay thinks hes smart. Jay says a lot of little shit that could go a bunch of ways and makes niggas speculate, latest example i can think of is that little "Like i play for the houston rockets nah mean!/yao ming!" who fuckin cares, its so borderline its not really worth the speculation, but if i could make some little shit sound like i was gettin back at a nigga from years back without meaning it, that would be hot, call me Hov...1luv.

It's in the same breath & area of the song in which he name-drops Kweli, is it not? If so, then it can't be a diss; 'cos Jay did the Get By remix w/ Kweli last year & both had only good things to say about the partnership.

It Was Just A Witty Line...

Jay Z's Dope.

:Offtopic:

.

^ Point Made. the black album is good but waaaaaaaaaaaay over hyped

Post.

I love Posting after myself.

Make the point like >

BLOWA!

You Stole My Style, Mahfuckkah!

Good question though, it DID sound like hay was going at common. .

<<<"er" dam where you outta Wichita??:wtf: :wtf:

yea i think it was a hidden diss!!

and i still think cube roasted common in there battle!!

You should be banned for confuzzeling me this early in the morn.

^ Word.
What the FUCK did that say?!

Word..it wasn't the classic I expected, but it is a strong album. As for the line, I think it was just a witty line, Because if your going out, then there's no point of really dissing people. It was a pretty dope line too.

no he says i want to rhyme like common since, you need to listen to the song to understand it. you only quote half the bar then it will seem like a diss but thats no the whole thing, their is about 4 bars related to that line

it didnt seem much like a diss

i think that when jay-z said he wanted to retire after this he didnt wanna go back on his word.......but he then noticed that this was a retarded idea....thus making the diss, and waiting for common to come back at him......thus giving him a reason to come out of retirement.........thats my explanation.....by the way i think jay-z is overrated

^^^ 'Zactly

The Fuck ya'll talking 'bout, that ain't a dis, He's giving Com's dap. Listen to the damn song

He starts off talking about how it's more that just dope lyrics to make it.....

"if skills sold truth be told,
i'll probaly be lyrically Talib Kweli"/

He said if it was just about that then he would be trying to be as complex with the rhyme as Common is but he had to dumb down his lyrical skills for mass appeal....

"truthfully i wanna rhyme like Common Sense...
but i did 5 mil, I ain't be rhymin like Common since/"

He ends it buy saying fuck the so calles "hip-hop purist" and critical acceptance who don't understand hard life..he found a way to make good and live comfertable so he's riding with that.....

"when ya sense got that much in common,
and you been hustlin since u'r inception,
fuck perception... go with what makes sense"/


I dont know how the fuck you turned a verse of him showing props into a dis?

And he's gone on record in interviews as saying that Talib and Com are his favorite emcees..hince the name drop...

ok.. lets use our brain cells for once.


this is supposivly the last album jay-z is making. why would he start some fresh beef? he was actually giving him props.


i don't think jay is over-rated. the black album is hot.

^ I only asked the question to try and liven this dead forum up, shit had threads like .. "Who's the best - Eminem or 50 cent" before i came here so ehhhhh. .

And those forums went something like this.....

So, who is the best.....Eminem or 50 Cent?

Em iz hottttttt muhfuckaz!

yo 50 b da shiznit

50 is hotttt but I think em got dis 1

Jay-Z

^^^fuck u nigg! 50 wuld kill jayz in a hand2hand fight. hed fucken pull out hiz gun n cap dat foo!

yo, em is da dopest white rappa eva! he da 1 dat got me in2 rap. Nah'mean?

yo, any1 wan 2 test dis. i'd lyrically merk all yall

^^NiGGa iD fuCkIn KIlL yO aZz

*closed*

ya.. i know...


i was just putting my 2 cent in.. plus adding a derading comment on top.. thats all...

keep doing the damn thing Cam.

Jay-Z is at least one of the best emcee's ever, those that disagree jus don't bother payin' the attention the guy needs to be understood... Ever since his beef wit Nas people be sayin' dis an dat "ohhhhhhhh, Nas is better"... Nah! Jay got mad skillz, watch his wordplay on Reasonable dout an Dynasty... he ain't playin' (he retiring) but he'll still be around...

"Nigga, I'll kill ya, commit suicide then kill ya again"- Jay-Z