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Accelerate 11-26-03 03:29 PM

Stereotyping Hip Hop?
 
Im in a chat, and suddenly people start a hip hop conversation. I tell them how you should see Hip Hop as, but as I know all of you know, 2Pac groupies run wild. So here is a conversation b/w me and some other girl, and how she tells me A couple of things.

UrLiLpRmAmI: HEY BITCH
DarK SkriP Sha: hey
UrLiLpRmAmI: c'mon why we fighting over this stupid shit?
DarK SkriP Sha: LOL
DarK SkriP Sha: You won't accept the facts Im saying
DarK SkriP Sha: 2Pac isn't what everyone cracks him up to be
UrLiLpRmAmI: first of all
UrLiLpRmAmI: ur making every1 mad
DarK SkriP Sha: your not everyone
UrLiLpRmAmI: they come into a fuckin chat and here your mouth talkin shit
DarK SkriP Sha: talkin shit?
DarK SkriP Sha: HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
UrLiLpRmAmI: ?
UrLiLpRmAmI: yea talkin shit
DarK SkriP Sha: 2Pac is not a Poet, nor is he a real rapper
UrLiLpRmAmI: u act like your better than every1
DarK SkriP Sha: he's a sellout
DarK SkriP Sha: tell me...Do you listen to alot of rap?
UrLiLpRmAmI: yea
DarK SkriP Sha: do you think you know more than I do?
UrLiLpRmAmI: no and i dont try to
DarK SkriP Sha: Lmao...nobody in that chat listens to more rap than I do
DarK SkriP Sha: And that is a FACT
UrLiLpRmAmI: how do you know that
DarK SkriP Sha: Believe me...statements like 2Pac is the best
UrLiLpRmAmI: did you ask them 1 by `
UrLiLpRmAmI: 1
DarK SkriP Sha: 1 by 1, and half the chat is already out because most don't listen or like rap
DarK SkriP Sha: the ones that do remain get all their rap from MTV and BET

Auto response from UrLiLpRmAmI: im bored as hell so yeah if you wanna do sumthing today call me and if you dont know my number here it is......262-679-8779 so holla at me if you wanna do shit!

DarK SkriP Sha: Trying to avoid
DarK SkriP Sha: well I don't give a fuck
DarK SkriP Sha: You wanted it like this for you to try and bounce???
DarK SkriP Sha: Lmao
DarK SkriP Sha: what a bunch of Bullshit
UrLiLpRmAmI: what is your nationality
UrLiLpRmAmI: ?
DarK SkriP Sha: Dominican and Puerto Rican
UrLiLpRmAmI: well im puerto rican...but dont you listen to your own cultures music sometimes?
DarK SkriP Sha: yes I do
UrLiLpRmAmI: then maybe you start listening to more of that and less rap...i understand u like rap...yes...but its your own frikin culture...damn i hate that music too....but sometimes you just have to listen to it.
DarK SkriP Sha: So your saying Rap is Black Music?
UrLiLpRmAmI: no
DarK SkriP Sha: Or of Black Culture?
UrLiLpRmAmI: no
UrLiLpRmAmI: no
UrLiLpRmAmI: i listen to it too
DarK SkriP Sha: so...why should I listen to spanish music?
UrLiLpRmAmI: i just dont try to act or turn black i try to stay the same
UrLiLpRmAmI: becuase its what u are
DarK SkriP Sha: there is no Acting Black
DarK SkriP Sha: thats stereotyping
UrLiLpRmAmI: my dad tells me this shit all the time
UrLiLpRmAmI: and i listen to him
UrLiLpRmAmI: and it really encourages u
DarK SkriP Sha: So because its spanish music, other people aren't supposed to listen to it?
UrLiLpRmAmI: not sayin black music is bad but have u ever just listen to what they talk about in there songs....sex this sex that ill kill those bitches...mutherfuckin cops this and that
DarK SkriP Sha: Thats mainstream rap
DarK SkriP Sha: Not even what hip-hop is supposed to be
DarK SkriP Sha: And all songs are not like that
UrLiLpRmAmI: most of em
DarK SkriP Sha: Not even most
DarK SkriP Sha: Listen to some of Nas' albums, he's commercial right?
DarK SkriP Sha: Songs like "Rewind" and "One Mic"
DarK SkriP Sha: Or even "I Can"
DarK SkriP Sha: And people limit themselves to the small amount of rappers they listen to, and just make a whole giant stereotype that "ALL RAP IS ABOUT GANGBANGING and KILLING PEOPLE And SEX"

Auto response from UrLiLpRmAmI: making food mmmm dont fuckin bother me!

DarK SkriP Sha: lol...this was useless.
DarK SkriP Sha: Words cut deeper than knives, but sometimes you need more than words to get through hard headed people

DEL the funkee 11-26-03 03:36 PM

cliff notes for your post?

Bio*Chemist 11-26-03 03:36 PM

"Auto response from UrLiLpRmAmI: im bored as hell so yeah if you wanna do sumthing today call me and if you dont know my number here it is......262-679-8779 so holla at me if you wanna do shit!"

I hope you don't mind if I call her right now....


Umm wow..touchy topic in away..stereotypes are made everday and in almost used in every sentence..
Tell the person to go do research..and have a more open mind...Looks like she is basing everyting from one perspective.

laters...

Accelerate 11-26-03 03:37 PM

Can't everyone post something serious anymore?

Transmogrify 11-26-03 03:37 PM

Go into the public chats and read around the bots it's alot worse than this. People tlkin bout how they're G's and shit. Saddens me. Then I post a link to say eydea "What is this gay crap nigguh"

I hate commercialism

Accelerate 11-26-03 03:38 PM

And call her, I dunno her

MultiVersEal 11-26-03 03:38 PM

lol. some australian guy has your aim name skiddz. inspire or whatever. or the other one.

LM 11-26-03 03:39 PM

That was a long conversation. I didnt read it all. But if someone thinks 2pac is the best then thats their opinion, whats the problem

Accelerate 11-26-03 03:39 PM

Huh???
My aim name??
exactly like that?

Accelerate 11-26-03 03:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by LM
That was a long conversation. I didnt read it all. But if someone thinks 2pac is the best then thats their opinion, whats the problem


They haven't listened to any real hip hop, and they blast at me for my opinion.

LM 11-26-03 03:51 PM

I love debates bout hip hop. Anyway opinions are opinions no matter how much they've heard

Aisle Phive 11-26-03 04:14 PM

Tupac IS a real rapper, and he was one of the best ones to date, him and Biggie used to run shit, now that they are dead there haven't been many real rappers. Hip hop and Rap are two very different things. Get Low is an example of Hip Hop, and a Tupac song is rap. I hate when people sit there and hate on Tupac for no reason at all, like he wasn't the best rapper in ages. His lyrics, music, his bizzare behavior all add up to why he was so great. Name a rapper better than Tupac, and don't give me an underground artist, give me somebody who has established themselves..?

Accelerate 11-26-03 04:17 PM

Jay-Z

Crysis 11-26-03 04:17 PM

im totally with skiddz on this shit.......she was mad b/c he said tupac isnt real hip hop...then she totally changes subject on music..........first off she was just realizing that she was gettin sonned.....second off..........she was stereo typing hip hop to a black music......yes hip hop started off with african american ppl.....but now its universal....anyone and everyone who listens to it isnt black.....ok ima stop venting now

Mental God 11-26-03 04:19 PM

Tupac Is A Real Rapper... I Don't Think He Was The Best Ever, But He Was Good.

And YES He WAS A Poet... Have You Read Any Of His Poetry Out Of His Book?

Here Hoes....

Sometimes when i'm alone
I cry because I'm on my own
The tears I cry R bitter and warm
They flow with life but take no form
I cry because my heart is torn
and I find it difficult 2 carry on
If I had an ear 2 confide in
I would cry among my treasured friends
But who do u know that stops that long
to help another carry on
The world moves fast and it would rather pass you by
than 2 stop and c what makes u cry
It's painful and sad and sometimes I cry
and no one cares about why.

He's Not The Best Ever, But He Was A Good Man

Accelerate 11-26-03 04:21 PM

I never denied the fact that he wasn't a good man, but he is a sell out.
If you really know about Pac, you know he wasn't a thug...
Digital Underground:Outspoken Political artist
Death Row: Thug Life?

Lokinator 11-26-03 04:21 PM

One Time Whilst Playing With Myself I Thought Of Eminem

But I'm Not Gay

wogzta 11-27-03 12:38 AM

they are entitled to whatever they think, but they shouldnt force their opinion on you or say they are right and you are wrong.. i personally enjoy 2pac... but im not about to start attacking other ppl cos they think nas or biggie or canibus are the best... if u get me... so in a way you were both kinda wrong... if she enjoys 2pac, let her enjoy 2pac... if you dont like his rapping, just dont listen to it, dont try and force other ppl to stop.. maybe they enjoy

HaycH 11-27-03 01:08 AM

Pac was gewd without a doubt, but now days he is way overrated. His style was Incredible

HaycH 11-27-03 01:16 AM

How many fans did he have when he was alive and how many does he have now?

Accelerate 11-27-03 10:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by wogzta
they are entitled to whatever they think, but they shouldnt force their opinion on you or say they are right and you are wrong.. i personally enjoy 2pac... but im not about to start attacking other ppl cos they think nas or biggie or canibus are the best... if u get me... so in a way you were both kinda wrong... if she enjoys 2pac, let her enjoy 2pac... if you dont like his rapping, just dont listen to it, dont try and force other ppl to stop.. maybe they enjoy


I'm defending my reasons for being attacked. They came saying shit to me on my opinions so I stated them again.

wogzta 11-28-03 02:32 AM

^ i understand that, but you also attacked them, by saying 2pac wasnt real hip-hop etc... if they enjoy it, just leave them alone and let them listen to whatever music they want to... just because an artist is commercial doesnt mean they arent real hip-hop... for example, i hate songs like how do u want it and all about u, but i listen to 2 of amerikaz most wanted, got my mind made up, ambitionz as a ridah, young black male, god bless the dead.. all nice songs by 2pac and they arent that commercialized... an example of totally unreal hip hop would be ja rule or nelly, where they sing in their own songs, never have any meaningful or raw tracks, always do sell out collabs with pop singers, have overproduced beats, and suck with lyrics... 2pac doesnt qualify as that...

now i respect your opinion, and if they attacked you, state your reasons.. just dont attack them back, show that u r better than them

ps. 2pac is notmy favourite rapper


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