aesop rock groupies please tell me
 

can any of you aesop rock groupes tell me what this means? and dont give me no bullshit about it means what you want it to mean thats why its abstract, or you have to look at the whole picture. i have heard all the excuses to get out of explaining aesop rock lyrics and im sick of them so, will some of you fans of his music please explain to me (n-demik cant answer cause he is aesop and he is the only one that knows)

Ok, this is the dawning of the book of bitter aspects
Where the jackals sit and watch the pedigods last flesh
Poison functions accompanied by six armorclad
Black horse and buggy mechanism
Tugged a portion of my severed vision
The gathering of loose ends in a bucket
Wit a shoestring budget
Every man's got a field to plow (I know that now)
But it's like, man I really can't afford the oxen
Fee fie et cetera
I smell the warm blood of the bill collector knockin
I get awkwardly sturdy with a frigid liquid backbone
I get swept in the pressure cooker tryin to paddle back home
I get sprung with a vibe and alliance of clean intention
By eclipsing doom midigons hatched to bash these picket fences
Now I'll attend the wedding of the open sword festering
Now when the groom presents the ring
The bride commence to blistering
This textbook magnificently crude
Prototype king beserker modulate
Serve the vertical thirst, burst horizontal
Treasure, loose cannons span the starbit power
The clippership dipped in truth famine pressure
Cabin fever meter pegging ludicrous
Beautiful cartoon trooper
swallow brutal futility with a teaspoon full of sugar
I rock ready aim fire, while y'all rock ready fire aim
Then blame the stationary target when the prey escapes the frame
Merit badge marksman, a poacher, it's all the same
So I lay across the woods perpendicular to the grain


tell me what that means and break down as many lines as you can with a meaning, prove to me that aesop isnt garbage ass mindless babble. i'll post some more that are even worse if i get a answer that is acceptable and not some bullshit.

EDIT - changed to lyrics i found on OHHLA

Oooooh oooooooh I know

of coarse you do you wrote it.;) but i see kids saying how dope he is(most only do it to fit in), but i doubt they understand one word he says.

rythemic tendances (what ever his name is) is one of the ones i want to answer cause for some reason i dont beleave he understands aesop i think he is only tring to fit in.

and i want handcuffs to answer cause i dont beleave him either.

muthugga probabley does understand cause i have read his work and its weird like aesop but i want him to answer just cause he is fun to pick on.:hump:

yes im calling out names. i want people to prove they like him cause they understand him not because they think he is diffrent or because someone else said he was dope. ill find some more so called aesop fans later

Those lyrics you have there for Big Bang are way off

wher'd you get them from?

could be a part of why you don't understand them

Yea the lyrics are off a bit. But I know what the song's meaning and message is :)

Oh and I am really Aesop. Demik ghosted for me a few times *coughs*

well i didnt actualy look at the lyrics i just found them and pasted them but a true aesop rock fan wouldnt need to read his lyrics they should know them, . but i have some aesop CDs and i still dont understand his lyrics.

i used to like him until i actually sat and listened and realised he was wack.

but yet you dont give the meaning typical aesop fan

Meaning of what ? Those lyrics you posted and claimed they were Aesop ? How can I tell you the meaning of something that is that off ?

Oh and just to help you out. A lot.. not me personally.. but a lot of his fanbase listen to his tracks for his diverse delivery and rhyme schemes my friend.

well i put up the right lyrics now, and dont say they are wrong cause im listening to the song and they match now so tell me the meaning. if your not goignt o give me the meaning then dont reply again.

If you REALLY need it I'll break some section down bar for bar or whatever but let me get at the jist of things first.

Ok, this is the dawning of the book of bitter aspects
Where the jackals sit and watch the pedigods last flesh
Poison functions accompanied by six armorclad
Black horse and buggy mechanism
Tugged a portion of my severed vision
The gathering of loose ends in a bucket
Wit a shoestring budget
Every man's got a field to plow (I know that now)
But it's like, man I really can't afford the oxen
Fee fie et cetera
I smell the warm blood of the bill collector knockin
I get awkwardly sturdy with a frigid liquid backbone
I get swept in the pressure cooker tryin to paddle back home
I get sprung with a vibe and alliance of clean intention
By eclipsing doom midigons hatched to bash these picket fences

^That is talking about the way he lives. Aesop isn't a rich man. He has said multiple times how we has to scramble to pay rent. This is hinting at the facts that he isn't a rich man, in fact, he is often times poor. So poor he can't afford some of the luxaries in life. This one was an easy section.

Now I'll attend the wedding of the open sword festering
Now when the groom presents the ring
The bride commence to blistering
This textbook magnificently crude
Prototype king beserker modulate
Serve the vertical thirst, burst horizontal
^This is saying basically. Although some may perceive it SLIGHTLY different. The blatant message behind it is that nothing has the fairy tale ending.

Treasure, loose cannons span the starbit power
The clippership dipped in truth famine pressure
Cabin fever meter pegging ludicrous
Beautiful cartoon trooper
swallow brutal futility with a teaspoon full of sugar
^This is basically saying. You gotta roll with the punches. Even though your dealt a bad hand you have to "swallow" with "a teaspoon full of sugar" to paraphrase.

I rock ready aim fire, while y'all rock ready fire aim
Then blame the stationary target when the prey escapes the frame
Merit badge marksman, a poacher, it's all the same
So I lay across the woods perpendicular to the grain

^This speaks of his diversity. He is saying how he likes doing things his way and different from everyone. Another easy message.

Blah. Post some Bazooka Tooth I bet hardly anyone gets what that's even about. :)

I'm too lazy to do it all, and some of the lyrics are still off, but here's my interpretation/explanation of sum of it

The gathering of loose ends in a bucket
Wit a shoestring budget
Every man's got a field to plow (I know that now)
But it's like, man I really can't afford the oxen
Fee fie et cetera
I smell the warm blood of the bill collector knockin
^^I put everything I have left to do b4 I die together, but I don't have the money to do it since I have bills to pay.
I get awkwardly sturdy with a frigid liquid backbone
I get swept in the pressure cooker tryin to paddle back home
^^alcohol solves my problems but then when I try to get back home I get into trouble.
I get sprung with a vibe and alliance of clean intention
By eclipsing doom midigons hatched to bash these picket fences
^^I think sumthin good's coming my way but only because I block out the bad shit.
Now I'll attend the wedding of the open sore and festering
Now when the groom presents the ring
The bride commence to blistering
^^I'll embrace my pain, dreams of happiness turn out to just that
This textbook magnificently crude
^^It's always been like this

Mine was cooler. But yea fuck a line break down. I just told you the messages in entirities.

its funny how both of you come up with two diffrent meaningS LOL. i guess that goes back to the it means what ever you want it to mean cause its abstract excuse.

precise i agree with some of yours but it seems like you got the meaning out your parts off off one little line.

like this part

Now I'll attend the wedding of the open sword festering
Now when the groom presents the ring
The bride commence to blistering

i think that part is how you got the maning to that part cause the other 3 lines were just bullshit lines.

swallow brutal futility with a teaspoon full of sugar

and that line is the one you got the meaning of the other part from cause the other lines were just some more bullshit.

thats why i dont like aesop.

How could I when I seperating them ? Look. He is talking about proposing to a girl he presented the ring.. she started crying.. THEN comes..

This textbook magnificently crude
^Textbook.. crude.. main words. Textbook goes back to uniformity of the obviously prementioned. Crude is obvious if not then you won't get anything Aesop says.

Prototype king beserker modulate
^PROTOTYPE ohhh. Modulate. ooohh. It gets ALTERED. A modulate is add ons of something. Prototype.. jesus I hope I don't need to explain that.

Serve the vertical thirst, burst horizontal
^Ok honestly the message is hazy. Ok firstly vertical and horizontal. Differences.. or opposites. Thirst and burst sorta opposite in nature right ? Cuz if you thirst you take in and if you burst it comes out. I got a sorta feeling of Serve the vertical thirst <--- Uniformity of things. Everyone doing things the same way. burst horizontal <--- Transition it. Be yourself.

This is why I said everything isn't a fairybook ending. And there you go.

The other is the same way. Of course the other is just 2 bars. A message per 2 bars is still blatantly complex.

^ post some bazooka tooth lyrics and i'll try and decipher them... i like challenges :D

of course, we dont understand EVERYTHING, thats what makes him interesting to listen to. But if u listen long enough, you'll understand his stuff to a certain degree. Like i said, post some other stuff.

hi i am going to write like aesop rock today

the villagers are swimming in a stream of self pity
only to discover bad lands are joyous cites
the simile of divinity turn to ironies echoes
the freckled past diminished to dreams of charcoal
the charcoal is ambiguous to eye lids of blind men
confind to a ocean with suit of iron sent to swim

if aesop wrote that it you guys would be tring to descipher it forcing meaning into it when their is none and it would have 30 diffrent amazing meanings by the time your done

you guys make me laugh how you force meaning into his words.

wogsta i've probabley listened to aesop longer then you. i been listening to him since one of my friends showed me music for earthworms or something like that. and at first i liked him, explaining why i own, float, labor days, and the daylight ep. but now that i stopped smoking weed i have realized how wack he really is.

people act like just because im talking bad about him that i never sat and listed to him, when i used to listen to him alot.
and most of you probabley think i only like simple raps that dont take much thinking to understand but that isnt the case either.
i just dont like aesop and think most of his fans are full of shit when they say they understand his songs. or they are just tring to fit in with the few people that actually do or think they do

^ i didnt mean that at all.... i was just making a point, not directly aimed at you. And i actually dont understand prolly 60% of what hes saying. But thats why i like listening to him, i work out something new everytime i listen, so its always interesting.

I do think people who say they know what he means all the time are full of shit, but it is possible to understand to a certain degree. I agree with forcing meaning into it and that people do do that, but he makes music for himself - i guess thats why hes prolly the only who really knows what it means. Even with other artists, you do have to force meanings - thats poetry, you listen, and then make your own judgement as to what it means to you. Of course there are simple rappers like 50 that dont really have any meaning, just blatantly simple things, but most good rappers have deeper meanings that you wont get straight away. In aesops case, you'll prolly never get all of it. I know I sound stupid, but thats just what i think. You make your own judgement as to what you think it means. Or you can just give Ace a call.

hahaha, nice!

that is so funny, my friends were just trying to "decode" his lyrics today in study hall. Some of what he says is just random bull shit, like on that song abandon all hope. "I do jigs around pigs, figurin'/" i mean, whatb the fuck does that mean? He uses alot of big words to confuse people, like xenophobe and analgamates. He is just good because he odd, that's it, he is just one odd mutha fucka. We got to the point where we went to the library and looked up the biblical shit he says, it just means dark, evil and shit like that. It is wierd though, i like him though.
~peace~

post "abandon all hope" give some people some fun trying to decode it. haha

Agreeably some of his stuff is just ment to push the track onwards. But if you are listening to an MC for just the meaning of lyrics.. then you're doing it wrong. I started listening to him when his Float EP first came out. His lyrics didn't catch me really until later. But his rhyme scheme and pressence are unique and dope. This is what got me into him. But I'd say I've been listening to Aesop for quite a few years. And I still play on average 14 tracks.. a full CD a day. Not trying to say I fully understand everything he says. But I basically know the meaning behind it all.

But yea. His flow is greeeeat.

did you guys ever think that he might be speaking ina sense that only makes sense to him...like ppl have inside jokes but they dont make sense to anyone else....maybe hes just making the shit he wants to....maybe just a different bunch of words has an inner meaning to him.......

Yeah, Precise got it right. But I have fun deciphering his lyrics, so post some more!

i don't agree that aesop sometimes just uses "big words" or "confuses" people for the fuck of it. To each his own, and yes in all music its what it means personally to you. i enjoy when the typical phrases or sayings are said differently, i like to think. aesop is not my fav. but i enjoy his music. he refers to a sea of bobbleheads nodding yes (think people), its witty and you'll bound to remember that.

Slug says something like "thug love standing on the corner of a wal-greens, looked at me like i was just another square saltine"

square saltine = cracker = aka whiteboy... creativity.

I agree wit Habitat ... Cuz a lot of times I write shit ... Spit it ... And my boy's be like ... Wat the fucc U talkin' bout man ... And I juss say fucc it ... At least I know wat I mean ... But personally ... I juss started listenin' to Aesop ... I think he has meanin' in his verse ... But U shouldn't really try decipherin' his entire verse ... Juss break down wat U understand ... Juss like listenin' to anythin' else ... I doubt U break down every fuccin' thing they say ... So why should U look at Aesop any differently ? Because U have a description of Underground rappers havin' to have meanin' in every fuccin' line ? Slug doesn't have meanin' in every line ... Do U try to break him down like that ? Juss think of it that way ... And shit'll make sense ... And yes ... If U wanna put your own meanin' to the verse do so ... Cuz no-one will have the exact meanin of his verse unless they sat down and discussed it with him ... Nah meam ?

thats complete crap...

so your saying that not every line has a meaning, so can you give me an example? cause i beg to differ. EVERY line in a song means something or leads to a meaning, however perceived. there may not be some deep underlying meaning but it has purpose. 50's lines have meaning even though they're pointless meanings about parties and pimpings. So your saying theres just alot of filler in Slug's verses? care to further explain cause i don't "nah" what you "meam"

Exactly wat U said ... They lead to a meanin' ... Gettin' to the point that U can explain sections of a song ... But might have trouble explainin' the line alone ...

I actually agree with Flu here .. i got into Aesop when the popularity snowballed .. heard Daylight which had the quoteable about Life's Not a Bitch, decided to get more, liked No Regrets but when i heard 90% of the album, i realised most of it was bullshit. And didnt make sense to me at the time. There's like .. 4 tracks of his i actually like and listen to, but to me .. the rest is hype by backpackers thinking if they listen to him, they'll fit in. Flu - go listen to Grouch .. a lot more simple, but still backpacker-esque, he's more what im into. Either grouch, eligh or eyedea

Not necessarily...I mean it's Aesops writers voice that makes him that way...Some emcees do tend to include stuff that can only be deciphered by themselves...Or having the listener have to look so in depthly that you might have to look at each word individually and then link the following 2 or 3 words with it. I mean emcees tend to relate to fixations they have with things, and if you're a first time listener to something they've recycled before..you won't necessarily understand whats being said. This said its only really exampled in Aesop Rocks lyrics and few other artists like Mac Lethal and *cough, cough, cough, rolls eyes*

^LMAO ... And I agree wit Cam ... Grouch is a lot simpler ... And dope too ... Aside from that ... N-Demik explained it good ...

i guess i'm missing our point...

makes him what way? meaning less?

yes, emcees do include stuff that may not make sense to everyone else, but is fitting to themselves. but there is meaning, or shall i say, we find meaning anyhow because why would we like a song which didn't make sense? I do agree than when you jump into something you may miss things, but I wasn't necessarily referring to Aesop.

whoaaa
im not getting involved in this argument.
all im saying is ace is tres' dope

aes writes in metaphores everything he says in all his verses are metaphores. I know you didn't wanna hear this but it is made ta be taken by everyone in a different way. Your supposed to feel it for how you relate the metaphore to your own life. he's not talking about his life, usually he is talking about life in general or the industry. That's the intrigue of abstract hip hop is taking someone else's thought and turning it into your own.


on the other hand grouch is dope too definately a good suggestion. Or on the abstract side i like slug's shit too but his styles a little hard for alot of people to swallow.

"Sometimes people take it too far. I mean, I don't know... I spend time with what I write, and to a degree I try to make shit connect behind the scenes, but sometimes cats waaaaay over analyze shit. It's cool I guess. If kids find some crazy other meaning for shit and it helps them through their day then that's cool, but I hate when people step to me like "what does it mean when you say... ?" I don't really answer those types of questions. I don't make shit up and everything I say makes sense to me. That's all that is important. I'll tell you what though, I never really thought my shit was that abstract. Most of the time I just think of interesting ways to say "fuck you." That's my main goal."

-Aesop Rock


By the way, "Big Bang" is about his hopes and dreams and plans for the future. Basically, where he wants to go with this "artistry." The trick is to not dissect shit word for word, but focus on the macrocosm. The minute you try to decipher line for line and get specific about it, that is when contradictions rise.


As for my own crazy lyrics, take them anyway you want C-Section, they are open for interpretation.

and Abandon All Hope, when you try to understand those lyrics, think of ABANDONING ALL HOPE.

every fifth marks lands diagonal to symbolize your downfall

and so on.......

^ nice explanation.....

and aesop has some less-complicated songs too... has anyone heard 11:35 with mr. lif? If you hear it a few times, pretty much everything Ace says is understandable

precise i agree he does have a nice flow and presence and he is original and i heard he puts on some dope shows i wont take that away from him, but i still need to understand what the hell he is talking about for me to like him.
thats like lil john he has nice beats and his 3 words he repeats threw the whole song flow nice to the beat, and he get people"crunk" but i still hate him

cam, i heard the guys you named, but i never really sat and listened to them

n-demik hi hows it going

ill Explicit - you said ". he's not talking about his life, usually he is talking about life in general or the industry. "
thats funny cause in an interview i read he said all his song are just personal stuff thats why he is shocked that people even buy it. ill try to find it and post it here.

^I hear you man.

To each his own. But yea I've been to a few shows with him in it and he is verrry dope. Awesome stage pressence.