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01-13-09 03:17 PM

This sentence is false,
 
and I am lying to you.

discuss.

La Cosa Nostra 01-13-09 07:29 PM

you never made a statement to judge.

this is a freeposting thread...

fuckwhit...

01-13-09 11:45 PM

there is two statements to judge. It's not a freepost thread, well? Are you going to 'solve' it? I already have my conclusion, and if you want to look up the philosophy on your own ways to solve and conclude, then look it up. There are supposed many solutions, but none are fully explained to the point that they are a fully symbolic theory. This dilemma is over thousands of years old.

Well? Come on genius. Whatcha got?

La Cosa Nostra 01-14-09 02:53 AM

this sentence is false and i am lying to you.

i dont need to look this up buddy, ill apply some simple logic.. if your telling me your lying then your telling me the truth about a non-existant subject matter making your sentence compleatly paradoxial and obviously false.

what other answers do you speak of..

just to humor me with your pathetic mental cognitive skills at comphrehending logic.

La Cosa Nostra 01-14-09 02:54 AM

me and OMB used to fuck with hardcore paradoxial arguments and statements.. you wont catch me out with something so simple.......

01-14-09 03:05 AM

"your telling me the truth about a non-existant subject matter making your sentence compleatly paradoxial and obviously false."

So if my sentence is false and I admit I'm lying in the same sentence then I'm telling the truth.

So therefore you haven't fully explained yourself. Keep going or was that it? Because if that's all, you fail quite obviously, and just so you know - this thread was for everybody. Not for your dumbass to parade in here acting king of the expected high horse. So shut the fuck up if you're not going to solve it. thanz.

JTR 01-14-09 04:40 AM

you wont find a solution because there is none, just like every other stupid philosophical question, there are no conclusions, no right or wrong answers.

Is the universe finite or infinite?

What is the capacity of knowledge we can understand?

Is nothing something?

etc etc

Do you know the answer? No? CUZ THERE IS NO RIGHT ANSWER

man i hate philosophy so much that I love it to death

01-14-09 04:48 AM

lol man dont be so easily fooled, there is a direct answer, people are just wrong and disagree.

there is one pessimistic conclusion and 4 optimistic conclusions and they all differ a little bit, my answer is very complex but I wanted more opinions than just someone's high self esteemed opinion.

So yes, wanna give this one a go or not?

Oh and ... all of those questions you asked have an answer.

Is the universe finite or infinite? - What context are you asking? Life or the universe? Life surely isn't infinite and all humans will eventually disappear. That is one thing I absolutely promise, even if humans figure out how to live forever, they will have to disappear. Though not as simple as that. It's written within in the philosophy book I'm writing.
Capacity of knowledge? - that which physically allows us capable of remembering. That doesn't include functionality.
is nothing something - yes and no, depending on the context.

However this thread is probably the only philosophical question which I have yet to come to an absolute conclusion in. I think I have it in my brain, but I haven't written it down. lol. You need to explain it in understandable language, otherwise it's just "oh it computes in my brain but I cant explain. sorry! bye" which is what baph is trying here. Can he explain it? Doubt it, but we'll see.

JTR 01-14-09 04:52 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2v
lol man dont be so easily fooled, there is a direct answer, people are just wrong and disagree.

there is one pessimistic conclusion and 4 optimistic conclusions and they all differ a little bit, my answer is very complex but I wanted more opinions than just someone's high self esteemed opinion.

So yes, wanna give this one a go or not?

Oh and ... all of those questions you asked have an answer.

Is the universe finite or infinite? - What context are you asking? Life or the universe? Life surely isn't infinite and all humans will eventually disappear. That is one thing I absolutely promise, even if humans figure out how to live forever, they will have to disappear. Though not as simple as that. It's written within in the philosophy book I'm writing.
Capacity of knowledge? - that which physically allows us capable of remembering. That doesn't include functionality.
is nothing something - yes and no, depending on the context.

However this thread is probably the only philosophical question which I have yet to come to an absolute conclusion in. I think I have it in my brain, but I haven't written it down. lol. You need to explain it in understandable language, otherwise it's just "oh it computes in my brain but I cant explain. sorry! bye" which is what baph is trying here. Can he explain it? Doubt it, but we'll see.


Those answers can be argued.

I mean the universe in general. Space. Does it have an ending point, or stretch on for eternity?

And nah, people have knowledge based on their subconcious which they don't remember. And what is the capacity of which we are able to remember things then? Is our brain able to store an infinite amount of knowledge? Or does it ever come to the point where we can't learn anymore?

01-14-09 05:01 AM

Listen man, just because shit seems so hard to you, that doesn't make it hard for me. I'll debate it with a philosopher, you can keep hating philosophy for being too hard.

Cola 01-14-09 05:33 AM

kidna of a cool question you got going


hmmmm


than again i suppose its how you are try to interept what it is about the sentence that makes it either correct or incorrect, obviously by english languarge standards it is not a statment...if you are taking the words for a meaning by which they are stating they are something...


I gotta jet right now, i just woke up to check my computer

but i all i can say is that i cant say its wrong, until i can prove that its not right

01-14-09 05:36 AM

*nods head*
that is a dope response.

But please do take a second look later! We'll be waiting on others now.

La Cosa Nostra 01-14-09 05:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2v
"your telling me the truth about a non-existant subject matter making your sentence compleatly paradoxial and obviously false."

So if my sentence is false and I admit I'm lying in the same sentence then I'm telling the truth.

So therefore you haven't fully explained yourself. Keep going or was that it? Because if that's all, you fail quite obviously, and just so you know - this thread was for everybody. Not for your dumbass to parade in here acting king of the expected high horse. So shut the fuck up if you're not going to solve it. thanz.

that is a reasonable answer to a stupid question buddy..

sure though, let others give it a go... ultimatly they can only come to the same conclusion i did...

01-14-09 05:39 AM

you had NO fucking conclusion.

"YOU WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING SO YOU COULDN'T LIE ABOUT ANYTHING"

I said, "This sentence (subject) is false, and I (writer) am lying to you" the comma doesn't make it two separate sentences, it's the same sentence. So, explain yourself, all you did was say "HAHA YOUR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT NOTHING SO YOUR SENTENCE IS FALSE"

But I said my sentence was false. So your wild calculation must have been concluded from not thinking. So I asked you to explain yourself, and I very much hope people don't come up with the same conclusion as you.

Cola 01-14-09 05:43 AM

lol


what i always find a funny is how people will throw complex words into sentences, not in order to bolster their statment or arguement....but in order to sound smarter than they really are


usally, when this happens...you know who ever is talking has no idea WHAT they are talking about



but hey, its like playing darts...sometimes when ya close your eyes, you may just hit a bulls eye


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