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Daubs 12-03-05 09:23 PM

Paki
 
...Do you people find that term racist?
(I will argue from a neutral point of view)

At the end of the day it isnt, people go on like it is, for example:
Some one comes up to me and calls me a Brit cause im British i dont start throwing the racist card, or people callin americans yanks....so why is it so wrong to call pakistanis pakis? :huh:

Indeph 12-03-05 09:39 PM

Same thing goes for people being called whitey or blacky.

Daubs 12-03-05 09:47 PM

Yeah,

some one calls me whitey big shit lol.

That aint bother me either.

Sean Gunner 12-03-05 09:55 PM

It depends on the tone you have in your voice. Like, if you call Mexican people Mexicans just meaning the culture, it's fine. But if you use it as an insulting tone, then it changes and people find it offensive.

Daubs 12-03-05 10:03 PM

Cricket commentators refer to the pakistan team as the pakis.
Australia as the aussies
and west indies as the windys.

So there racist?

Sean Gunner 12-03-05 10:07 PM

Fook crickets...

Baseball the only way to go. :cool:

Ysdat 12-03-05 10:19 PM

Any conversations about rasicm fuels the arguement. No matter if your from a positive point of veiw or actually being racist. Any conversation gives racist a spot to talk about it and act out.

So fuck race conversations.

*eats dissapearing cookie*

Daubs 12-03-05 10:21 PM

But the point is...i dont think this is racist.

SlicKnife 12-05-05 05:11 PM

Paki is a racist term, Daubs your logic is very flawed and I will prove that to be the case...

Paki is just like any other offensive word, the reason why it is offensive is not solely or even slightly because of what the word actually means or has been derived from, but because of the reason WHY it is used...hence if it is used by people to be offensive, then it is and will be offensive - The word Paki was used by racists (it was supposed to be a deragatory term for Pakistanis), and is still used by racists hence Pakistanis (like myself) find it offensive if it used by a person...

It is just like 'nigger' - The fact is, if you minus the history of the word nigger and the type of people it was intentionally used by as a deragatory term (the racists) then you could argue that there is nothing wrong with the actual word because it is derived from Negro which is an acceptable term...however, this is taking the word nigger out of context, and its history, and the fact it too was invented to be used as an offensive term....

Your logic is horribly flawed because you assume Paki is just a short word for Pakistani, and can be used instead of the latter....your assumption is wrong, because I do not know if you are aware, but racist motherfuckers use that term...whereas terms like Brit, they are not offensive because when they were first used and in the majority of cases when they are used now, their purpose is NOT to be offensive....

Now you could argue why Paki should be offensive, same way you can argue why Nigger should be offensive (I know the big difference between the two terms in terms of history) and that people should not find it offensive if it is not said to offend...however, go tell that to every single person who has been insulted with these terms, only for being who they are - besides, nothing is that easy...why should people like you be able to use terms that were popularly used by racists....just use the word Pakistani or Negro (for black people), or even Asian (something people do not find offensive in Britain when used to refer to people from the subcontinent)....

As for the part about the cricket commentators...that is bullshit - I watch cricket, and I have no idea which cricket you have been watching (probabaly some shit by the BNP maybe?), commentators NEVER and have NEVER used the term Paki as it is politically uncorrect, and rest assured if they did, you would find them receiving many complaints...

So drop your flawed logic, or try to reason with me....

SlicKnife 12-05-05 05:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daubs
But the point is...i dont think this is racist.


Please, it doesn't matter what YOU fuckin think

But it matters what I think, because people use that term to try and offend me and for that sole purpose, which is also the reason why it was basically first used

B To The D 12-05-05 05:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
Any conversations about rasicm fuels the arguement. No matter if your from a positive point of veiw or actually being racist. Any conversation gives racist a spot to talk about it and act out.

So fuck race conversations.

*eats dissapearing cookie*


You And Your Fuggin Cookies Lol

Well On The Topic I Would Say It Depends In WHich Way You Use It

if You Go Up To Someone Kick The yHead Call Em Pakis N Shit..>Thas Racist

But Reffering To The Culture Isnt Like Sayin The Pakis Come From Pakistan

And Like us

Brits Come From Britain

Welll.....Thas My Perspective

Daubs 12-05-05 05:16 PM

-If i was asian and someone called me a paki, id be like...yeah your a brit..

It is not offencive unless stated in an abusive tone.

Now i understand what your saying, but fuckin dicke bird etc regularly say it in cricket commentating.

Australia = aussies
West ndies = windys
Pakistan = pakis

How can it be derogotary, when its just a shortened version, nickname if you like.

B To The D 12-05-05 05:18 PM

^^I Know Im Sayin It Depnds How U Say it i agree with u


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