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[.:D:.] 07-05-06 06:21 PM

www.soundclick.com/streetlegendandphilosopha

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.Ike. 07-06-06 12:47 PM

uhh like...

whats the marketability of Ike n Black Magik...the group n shit...

www.soundclick.com/youngike

listen to Ike n black magik mixtape sampler..theres 20 samples on there...listen to the first 3 if u only want 3 lol

Daubs 07-06-06 02:41 PM

You can see i need the feedback...

www.soundclick.com/daubs

Hype and any other 2 cheers.

∆ P E X X 07-09-06 05:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ennui
www.soundclick.com/limitededitioncan

Stanley's Coming Home
Birds in the Metal
Knight in Shining Armor

Thanks.

Long overdue indeed.



Ennui. You have skill on the mic and your voice carries conviction with it. When people hear you, it's easy to listen because you sound passionate about what you're talking about. EQ your mids up a little to lift your voice off the beats some. Your rhymescheme is extra basic, usually 1-2 syls, and you add insult to injury with more than a few bar-couplets that don't lock, or flat out dont rhyme at all. Things like that, concious errors, erode the impression of your music. Some multis would be nice every once in a blue, just to breathe some variety into the tracks. I see you came a lonnnnnggg way since our last discussion about writing to fit your flow. Apparantly you do this at will, because on that shining armor track you made sure all the shit was on point and plainly put more attention into it than the others I listened to.

Your topics mostly consist of pseudo-emotional topics and songs which is great in small doses, not as a mainstay. People get tired of hearing others stack up their problems, it eventually interprets to "complaining". You can write to seemingly any topic, just something in the packaging. Where are your happy songs, don't you ever have good emotions you want to talk about? Lets hear about em! You have your own style, you just need to branch it out waaayy more man.

You're good at telling stories, and stories require long attention spans. Unfortunately for you, your peers (who are your target audience) have short attention spans. That inherently will make you less marketable. Make those types of tracks way fewer and way more far between. People want music that's easy to listen to as well, music where thy don't always have to give intense focus on what you're saying, they can just "hear" it and vibe to it too if they want. weave some tracks like this into your catalog and you'll see people who were luke-warm on your music will grow to like it, and those that 'liked' your music will grow to 'love' it. It makes you more well rounded, and also lets your tracks be heard in yet another frame of mind. And that = good.


- A

∆ P E X X 07-09-06 05:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
www.myspace.com/mrleady

only got an ooollllddddd song and a freestyle on there

erm

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/son...&songID=4059206

few verse previews from some other songs(havent had any vocal editing what so ever to them), but thats about it, i really need to get my arse into gear.


(I peeped the verse previews)

Leady, You'reEQ your mids and high up and your fice will light up when you hear the difference and the clarity in your voice. A well rounded emcee overall, you have variety and spontainety in your lyrics and in your flow. Your beat choices definitly echo the roots of Hip Hop as does your style. You got some punches that'll add light to your verses make listeners chuckle and smile.

The only thing I'd say is that your songs (the ones submitted) all have similar topics, b-boy type braggodocio topics. I mean, you're Leady the Hip Hop Junkie!! That's expected hahaha, and a wide array of topics would make you like...well..sorta like a white KRS. Some collabs with concept artists would blow you up in a big way and make their fans your fans. Marketability is proportionate to the markets you can reach. I tell you this because I know you have the knowledge, the ability, and the platform to apply it.

That's really it man, pick up those mids and highs at tad, and flex your mind muscle on different types of tracks, maybe a few abstract ones and you'd be a top shelf underground artist.

∆ P E X X 07-09-06 06:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKid_Sense
bleh..lol nice though Apexx...

Ill go ahead and do this..even though my quality might be a bad factor..

First Real Track - Shorty -
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/son...&songID=3878532

Dear Lord -
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/son...&songID=4100635

Dkon Diss -
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/son...&songID=4087886

'Pexx you need to send me some new equipment :P


Sense, damn man, your quality sounds like a slice of ass-cake. That alone makes your marketability a goose egg since no consumer at any level wants to listen to poor quality music, no matter HOW good it is. It's a shame too since your voice has a harmony that that steaming shit log of a mic just can't capture. It backfires on you too because you can't groom the good habits that a voice like yours calls for. Your topics are nice man nice array, something for everybody, that's big. Your track "Dear Lord" is probbly the most entertaining "I'm down with god" track I've listenend to, mostly in how you approached it. Should have let ther instrumental ride out some more, the melody after a track like that makes a great runway for peoples thoughts about wht you said since anyone listening will reflect on their own experiences.

EQing helps any situation, so i suggest you read up on it (thread in this forum) and apply what's within to bring your stuff up. On that DKon diss, you sounded like you wrote it in a rush because it wasn't as fluid as the other tracks I heard. That applies for the delivery and for the flow, in some parts you mumble, and in others, it sounds like you're a victim of your own poor sylable conservation - factors that weren't prevelant on the other submissions. Don't drop your standards man, it always comes back to bite you.

Learn to EQ - and then apply it, then get a new mic, and you'll be sitting on a launch pad fueled by your lyrics and inate sense of creativity.


Pexx

∆ P E X X 07-09-06 06:06 PM

Enyg
Bmaj
Cal'lam
DV
Ike (as IBM)
Daubs

Enygma 07-09-06 06:20 PM

Woo Hoo.....I'm Next :D

Young Kidd (LM) 07-09-06 08:00 PM

Lol, in a way it was one big compliment, and one big "Buy some more shit you poor bitch" lmao...but really thanks man...im workin on gettin some stuff sold, gettin a job, etc. and tryna get that equipment.. lol ...now im gettin older i can finally get a job..lmao... and im still tryna get the eqin' down..im just illiterate to it..

Thanks for it though...really helped..

B. Magik 07-09-06 11:36 PM

^^ Your avy is dope as Christ himself.

∆ P E X X 07-10-06 12:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKid_Sense
Lol, in a way it was one big compliment, and one big "Buy some more shit you poor bitch" lmao...but really thanks man...im workin on gettin some stuff sold, gettin a job, etc. and tryna get that equipment.. lol ...now im gettin older i can finally get a job..lmao... and im still tryna get the eqin' down..im just illiterate to it..

Thanks for it though...really helped..



How come the first thing you went off on was buying gear?

the first thing you shoudl be doing is learning how to EQ. Depending on your skills, you might not need to buy jack shit.

Have you read this: http://community.rapverse.com/showthread.php?t=224725

Young Kidd (LM) 07-10-06 01:48 AM

yea i read it.. and sitll cant do it..and the reason i said that about the equipment first is cuz i been lookin in to and saving money to buy equipment already..

∆ P E X X 07-10-06 01:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKid_Sense
yea i read it.. and sitll cant do it..and the reason i said that about the equipment first is cuz i been lookin in to and saving money to buy equipment already..



hhmm...so lemme ask you, what made it difficult to apply? I mean, if I can make it clearer and improve it, hey man, I'm always open to that. To keep this thread on topic, hit me in a PM.

leady 07-12-06 04:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
(I peeped the verse previews)

Leady, You'reEQ your mids and high up and your fice will light up when you hear the difference and the clarity in your voice. A well rounded emcee overall, you have variety and spontainety in your lyrics and in your flow. Your beat choices definitly echo the roots of Hip Hop as does your style. You got some punches that'll add light to your verses make listeners chuckle and smile.

The only thing I'd say is that your songs (the ones submitted) all have similar topics, b-boy type braggodocio topics. I mean, you're Leady the Hip Hop Junkie!! That's expected hahaha, and a wide array of topics would make you like...well..sorta like a white KRS. Some collabs with concept artists would blow you up in a big way and make their fans your fans. Marketability is proportionate to the markets you can reach. I tell you this because I know you have the knowledge, the ability, and the platform to apply it.

That's really it man, pick up those mids and highs at tad, and flex your mind muscle on different types of tracks, maybe a few abstract ones and you'd be a top shelf underground artist.


thanks man, thats really appreciated :D yeh as of late im switching up my topics n shit, n im now getting the producers of the beats to mix and edit my vocals with the beat properly to create that crisp sound n shit like that, so watch for sum new material with sum crisp production and more variation of topic.

thanks again man, its nice to see sum1 actually understand my style and what im trying to do and exactly where it gets the inspiration from.

L.E 07-14-06 01:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
Ennui. You have skill on the mic and your voice carries conviction with it. When people hear you, it's easy to listen because you sound passionate about what you're talking about. EQ your mids up a little to lift your voice off the beats some. Your rhymescheme is extra basic, usually 1-2 syls, and you add insult to injury with more than a few bar-couplets that don't lock, or flat out dont rhyme at all. Things like that, concious errors, erode the impression of your music. Some multis would be nice every once in a blue, just to breathe some variety into the tracks. I see you came a lonnnnnggg way since our last discussion about writing to fit your flow. Apparantly you do this at will, because on that shining armor track you made sure all the shit was on point and plainly put more attention into it than the others I listened to.

Your topics mostly consist of pseudo-emotional topics and songs which is great in small doses, not as a mainstay. People get tired of hearing others stack up their problems, it eventually interprets to "complaining". You can write to seemingly any topic, just something in the packaging. Where are your happy songs, don't you ever have good emotions you want to talk about? Lets hear about em! You have your own style, you just need to branch it out waaayy more man.

You're good at telling stories, and stories require long attention spans. Unfortunately for you, your peers (who are your target audience) have short attention spans. That inherently will make you less marketable. Make those types of tracks way fewer and way more far between. People want music that's easy to listen to as well, music where thy don't always have to give intense focus on what you're saying, they can just "hear" it and vibe to it too if they want. weave some tracks like this into your catalog and you'll see people who were luke-warm on your music will grow to like it, and those that 'liked' your music will grow to 'love' it. It makes you more well rounded, and also lets your tracks be heard in yet another frame of mind. And that = good.


- A


Thanks alot man...really appreciate it. Props on this.

And I will work on the things you said.

:thumbup:

Ca'lam 07-19-06 12:49 AM

*cough* lol.



:)

∆ P E X X 07-19-06 03:44 AM

^lol chea, I'll see you beeches tomorrow with this lol

Key... 07-19-06 04:31 AM

Haw Chooooooooooooooooo

ayo A peck...what the delio...rate the brotha..lol

www.soundclick.com/keyrogue

∆ P E X X 07-19-06 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enygma
1. Fuckin Wit Chu
2. Hip Hop Police
3. Almighty OYD

www.myspace.com/enygmasmusic


Word......:thumbup:


Enyg, you rush shit in your flow at times it's always a loose sylable here and there that make your flow sound stuffed together and othe times it's just gaps like you don't flow all the way to the end of the bar so it doesn't "lock" which makes you sound unpolished. Easily corrected with word conservation. You remind me of Megala of Cannibal Ox in some regards. Your flow is consistent but also redundant at times since your spit tempo is the same on pretty much everything cept on that "almight oyd" track it sounded like you put something different into it to match everyone elses tempo. Who ever did the hook on that song was way off beat, speaking beyond the bar end and the reverb made it sound worse. Actually, now that I listen to you on the second hook, its' the beat that comes back in too soon, it should have stlled for a little bit longer. You went back to your typical flow by the time the second verse started.

I'd say all in all you sound like a "close" emcee, as in you're closed to a finished product but the shortcomings that you hear in your self i also hear. It's mostly in flow like talking at one pace then rushing a part of a sentence to get more sylables in, thne going back to the normal tempo agian all in the same sentence is a no-no. Iron that out and I think you'd be pretty well off. Your beat choices are slow tempo usually more abstract underground type of sound which some people aboslutely love and other people couldn't care less for, so be mindfull of that.

And that's pretty much it.

Uno

∆ P E X X 07-19-06 06:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVaginaCrusher
www.soundclick.com/blackmagikproductionz

a Goodnight's Sleep
Here To Stay
The Truth

Thanks :thumbup:


Black Magic, that track "a good nights sleep" sounds like it was spit or recorded completely off beat. Your rhymescheme had change-ups that weren't anywhere near on synch with the bar start and ends in the first verse. Tightenend back up in the second verse though still wasn't what I was used to from you. And don't slack on the rhyme scheme man, you sound like you gave up on making some bar couplets rhyme 100% and just plugged in a word that ..ehh...sounded kinda similar but not enough to say it rhymes, which in 2006 equates to not rhyming at all. I can tell you had a hard time on this cuz the bpm isn't what you're normally on, and the flow you usually use sounds stretched and too segmented on a beat like this, so you fill the gaps with extra syls and it sounds like lumpy oatmeal. Your vocal quality is really good. That "here to stay" was more like it haha, I'm not sliding to sleep no more. ok,feels like now the review starts. You already know I think you can produce your beats have variety and a sounds that's marketable if you actually market it. Sounds liek you half-assed the transition to the hooks on that "the truth" and the reverb on your vese was waaaaayyyyyy too long and too bright.

That's all I can say for now, I really think you should have submitted 3 different songs or at least tracks where you spit longer than 1 verse. I'll have to catch back up to you on the IBM review, 1


`Pexx

∆ P E X X 07-19-06 07:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ca'lam
haha.. i remember this. triple did me like 2 years ago.

most my joint arent full songs. more like verses that i lost interest in the song...


but you'll get my style without a whole song.


www.soundclick.com/pheenix


Pocket Change
Can you Help me Sample (sample)
My Civil War(sample) and/or When Pigs Fly(first verse to a join im working on)

they should all be at the top

i dont have many full joints. workin on that.


Ca'lam, damn it's been a minute. Your vocals are clear, your reverb is a little too high on that pocket change on the verses, its lifting you from the beat a little too much. Seems to be a preset for you cuz it's the same on all these tracks. You'd gain a whole lot of body in your vocals if you EQ'd your lows and mids more for your verses. Your preset for the hooks (being that there's a lot of singing) is on point. Your lyrics still tak a concious effort to make out due to the EQing as mentioned before, turnign dow nthe reverb and bringing up the mids and lows would completely turn that around. You have the makings of a real harmonic hip hop type seeing that you sing, it's to some extent liek a smooth jazz type of hip hop, and I can easily visualize someone playing through a CD of yours at a contemporary art show or say ...a wedding and in places that people are in a hip hop type of cultural vibe but normally wouldn't play hip hop at all you'd get spins there. Matter fact, I can think of more than a few art shows my brother's put on that I could se this playing at and people going 'damn..who's this?". The phase pan on When pigs fly is too overt from ear to ear, you'd want it a little more subtle on that synth so people slightly hear it, so it doesnt' become an effort on their ears after a whole song worth of wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah back and fourth. Or another alternative is that when the synth first hits, have it start in one ear and slowly pan to the other as the tone progresses, then on the next, fades back in the other direction and so on.

One thing that I noticed is that even after listening and analyzing the songs, with the exception of Pocket Change I'm really not sure what your topics are. I think you'd aboslutely explode if you did visionary type tracks or more conceptual tracks where you're speaking to someone specific or about something specific. I don't often say this, but I think you and a professional conceptual song writer would have the makings of a run away music career. The right A&R would would fall out his seat laughin if your CD slid across his desk cuz he'd see how to align the pieces and make you a household name on tour with Jill Scott and Flowetry, and doing collabs with Maxwell and D'Angelo and a Mos Def cameo. You have some "lyrical" tracks and some collabs on your page, but I'm tellin ya man, lol don't even waste your time with that man that's way beneath what you can do, and after some massaging on your vocals, playing to your strengths and aiming at the right crowd would pay off for you BIG TIME. And I mean BIG TIME.

Your target audience is mature adults that are older and wiser now, and beyond the "rap" phase but still got that culture in em and just want to listen to something smoother. I can see this playing in the Caddy easily, like the sound track to unwind to. This is that plush leather seat music, ya feel? It's music for the grown. music for the trendy, the new young contemporary corporate america with fat pockets music.


Apexx

∆ P E X X 07-19-06 07:27 PM

DV
Ike (as IBM)
Daubs
Key (yo key, pick 3 tracks off your page chief!)

Tar Heel 07-19-06 10:33 PM

long time no see pawtna,

just lookin for a new name and the critique wouldnt hurt either

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/tarheel704

Tracks- Real Shit, Im A Rapper, and Makin It

Enygma 07-20-06 12:18 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
Enyg, you rush shit in your flow at times it's always a loose sylable here and there that make your flow sound stuffed together and othe times it's just gaps like you don't flow all the way to the end of the bar so it doesn't "lock" which makes you sound unpolished. Easily corrected with word conservation. You remind me of Megala of Cannibal Ox in some regards. Your flow is consistent but also redundant at times since your spit tempo is the same on pretty much everything cept on that "almight oyd" track it sounded like you put something different into it to match everyone elses tempo. Who ever did the hook on that song was way off beat, speaking beyond the bar end and the reverb made it sound worse. Actually, now that I listen to you on the second hook, its' the beat that comes back in too soon, it should have stlled for a little bit longer. You went back to your typical flow by the time the second verse started.

I'd say all in all you sound like a "close" emcee, as in you're closed to a finished product but the shortcomings that you hear in your self i also hear. It's mostly in flow like talking at one pace then rushing a part of a sentence to get more sylables in, thne going back to the normal tempo agian all in the same sentence is a no-no. Iron that out and I think you'd be pretty well off. Your beat choices are slow tempo usually more abstract underground type of sound which some people aboslutely love and other people couldn't care less for, so be mindfull of that.

And that's pretty much it.

Uno

Word....I appreciate it. I was wondering when someone was going to tell me about all those little things I hear...lol. Sometimes I'll just put a track up to see if anyone else hears the little shit that I do......

Good Looks though.....definitely appreciated :thumbup:

ILL GEE 07-20-06 01:47 AM

click da siggy... I'm Here Now Remixed...lol... there's definitel;y a diff between this and the old one... peep 'em both (I'm Here Now... it's near the bottom) to see what i mean...
Four Minutes... it's on my MySpace account ... which is also in my sig! easy

Daubs 07-20-06 11:28 AM

Another random thing, Hype, f*** Blair.

There my 3 tracks for you to look at.

Cheers.

Key... 07-20-06 02:51 PM

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pag...m?bandID=193936

3 trackz:

1-Sometimes I Feel feat Q & Duece
2-The Circle
3-Never Cheat

Ca'lam 07-20-06 03:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
Ca'lam, damn it's been a minute. Your vocals are clear, your reverb is a little too high on that pocket change on the verses, its lifting you from the beat a little too much. Seems to be a preset for you cuz it's the same on all these tracks. You'd gain a whole lot of body in your vocals if you EQ'd your lows and mids more for your verses. Your preset for the hooks (being that there's a lot of singing) is on point. Your lyrics still tak a concious effort to make out due to the EQing as mentioned before, turnign dow nthe reverb and bringing up the mids and lows would completely turn that around. You have the makings of a real harmonic hip hop type seeing that you sing, it's to some extent liek a smooth jazz type of hip hop, and I can easily visualize someone playing through a CD of yours at a contemporary art show or say ...a wedding and in places that people are in a hip hop type of cultural vibe but normally wouldn't play hip hop at all you'd get spins there. Matter fact, I can think of more than a few art shows my brother's put on that I could se this playing at and people going 'damn..who's this?". The phase pan on When pigs fly is too overt from ear to ear, you'd want it a little more subtle on that synth so people slightly hear it, so it doesnt' become an effort on their ears after a whole song worth of wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah back and fourth. Or another alternative is that when the synth first hits, have it start in one ear and slowly pan to the other as the tone progresses, then on the next, fades back in the other direction and so on.

One thing that I noticed is that even after listening and analyzing the songs, with the exception of Pocket Change I'm really not sure what your topics are. I think you'd aboslutely explode if you did visionary type tracks or more conceptual tracks where you're speaking to someone specific or about something specific. I don't often say this, but I think you and a professional conceptual song writer would have the makings of a run away music career. The right A&R would would fall out his seat laughin if your CD slid across his desk cuz he'd see how to align the pieces and make you a household name on tour with Jill Scott and Flowetry, and doing collabs with Maxwell and D'Angelo and a Mos Def cameo. You have some "lyrical" tracks and some collabs on your page, but I'm tellin ya man, lol don't even waste your time with that man that's way beneath what you can do, and after some massaging on your vocals, playing to your strengths and aiming at the right crowd would pay off for you BIG TIME. And I mean BIG TIME.

Your target audience is mature adults that are older and wiser now, and beyond the "rap" phase but still got that culture in em and just want to listen to something smoother. I can see this playing in the Caddy easily, like the sound track to unwind to. This is that plush leather seat music, ya feel? It's music for the grown. music for the trendy, the new young contemporary corporate america with fat pockets music.


Apexx



Thanks Ape, :) (your new nick name by the way :D )

yea, i have a hard time writing in a straight line ya know ? i had super duper ADD/ADHD (combination of both) so mind minds all over the place. i think if i focused harder, i might be ale to fix that problem.. very much appreciated.

kalealcrooks 08-11-06 04:03 AM

www.soundclick.com/silverpharoah

riding low

welcome to my hood

scrub hands

KempoMRK 08-25-06 07:15 PM

Dope thread Appex, I'll post some stuff up when I get better.

Wordz AhGod 09-23-06 04:58 PM

www.soundclick.com/rawking

'Get it Popping'
'All I had'
'I promise'

Id appreciate any feed or help you'd give on this man. thanks

Daubs 10-27-06 12:08 PM

safe apexx.

]when you get to mine, fuck soundclick. do the three on my myspace www.myspace.com/daubsnw

easy.

Flame305 11-02-06 09:51 AM

http://www.myspace.com/bpflame

Grown Man
War Talk
For The Ladies

LnC 11-16-06 06:22 PM

www.myspace.com/dsplnc


"For Ya Fam"
"Thank You"
"Summertime Vibe"


Hope to hear what you think APEXX...


Thanks bro.

Chris Stylez 01-27-07 06:39 PM

www.myspace.com/csdabest

"The Usual Suspect"
"Dem Nuh See"
"Savior"

Im the more smooth sounding one with da laid back style

DiDiSi-Mp-Lucif 02-23-07 05:25 PM

uhh aiight

heres my 3
from this site,
www.soundclick.com/didisimp

theyrs "keep rollin"

theyrs "bad habits"

and "ocean breeze" -- unfinished...

tell me what u think...

mianly just throwin shit 2getha... im just picking up timing... basicly on ocean breeze...

Fresh Wun 05-09-07 05:07 PM

http://www.soundclick.com/thurrowmuzik

Throw Some Ds On What
Chain Cumin Up Short
Roll Like That

They jus mixtape tracks, wit not to much effort. But I appricaite the critique anyway. Thanks.

don cardyac 05-23-07 02:20 PM

the two songs in my sig. i know that the quality needs an upgrade for the radio but these are just 1st. takes of the singles.

big daddy 07-23-07 11:04 AM

http://myspace.com/rareco22


alright I only have three songs on there. so those three would be fine :thumbup:

04-03-11 01:47 PM

all good stuff. i wonder if any of you have any good videos to share?


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