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La Cosa Nostra 12-16-08 04:53 PM

Baphomet vs 286
 
Battle Rules:
READ BEFORE VOTING
  • Around a 4-5 minute limit area, try to be around 4:30 minutes for listeners mainly if your going hard out. And no D/Q will be instated if your a little over 5 minutes... time I dont feel is a major issue in this respect.. But tracks that go forever...are a bit of a cunt for a battle.... Going less than than 4-5 minute reigon will not be frowned upon at all.
  • No Crew Votes, OYD only Baph is not in a crew
  • No Recycling lyrics
  • No Biting, duh
  • NO HATER VOTES, if you got beef fuck off
  • No votes based on accent, seeing as one competitor is american the other is australian. Anyone who contributes accent in their vote will be DQed, I feel this is nessecary. I'll post the lyrics along with the track so you dont have trouble understading what I'm saying (I dont think you will though in reality)
  • Time limits are gonna be up to one week, half check in time, half posting time. This is generally due to when I can record which is limited, I got a hardcore schedual
  • Intros n outros are allowed if you want

check in closer to the end for full time if you need it... My shit will most likly be done before the limit so well just correspond through PM's as to when we throw it up for votes. I'll tell you when I'm done, you tell me when your done and I'll hurry the fuck up etc..

Goodluck brother.

Subject is:
'Comming Home'

Weve both got the beat. kung pow pussy. lets do this shit.

Minimum posts to vote: 500

Check in by: 12-20-08 at 04:53 AM

Must drop verse in 5040 minutes after check in.

System 12-16-08 06:58 PM

286 has ACCEPTED this battle on 12-16-08 06:58 PM.

Jay Rose 12-16-08 07:00 PM

i just finished writing the song.....i should be able to record wed, or thursday night...pending on when i get finished editing this movie for class....so yea get your ass in gear n what not cuz i understand you have to get into the studio

La Cosa Nostra 12-17-08 12:13 AM

my ass will be in gear...

I got a date tonight so tomorrows prolly when its gonna be recorded....

La Cosa Nostra 12-17-08 10:59 PM

I done verse 1 and 2... starting on verse 3 bro...

TIme constraints are a bitch.. But You know how it is...... Especially working on about 6 or 7 tracks at once....

System 12-19-08 06:41 PM

Baphomet has ACCEPTED this battle on 12-19-08 06:41 PM.

Jay Rose 12-19-08 07:29 PM

okay hope this was as fun for you as it was for me, story behind the track is was listening to kanye n was like hmm lets see if i could do that...so i tried the singing and sadly ill admit i needed the autotune to sound decent, so what you got is this....

Middle of the Night - http://www.zshare.net/audio/52994349e4491d01/


Lyrics:
here we go in the middle of the road
headding home, just me - its the same old thang
letting go, as im headding to the door
so - its just me - its the same old thang

i cant cope - with life with out you ya know
and letting go is hard your so beautiful
and now its over - i want you to know
if i could take it back the things i did i wouldnt do no more
no other girl is more sutible
no other girl earned more than what you deserve
yeah you got it like that
now, im all alone wishing you back
oh i
i took to the achahol
oh i
i feel as if im drowning
oh i
i dont think ive had enough with all the drinks ive added up and i still want you around me
oh i, oh i, oh i
i just dont know no more
oh i, oh i, oh i
think im bout to hit the road


its so cold, coming home
without you, your the center of my lifeee
you hit the road, leaving me alone
cus i kept coming home in the middle of the night

hold up - pause
let me flip to the begning of the song
to that script can begin to get told
cuz im sick of bein in the cold
i -didnt wunna go
didnt wunna stay
didnt wunna roam but i did it anyway
i did what i did cuz i couldnt stand that - same old thangg
i tried to make a change and get you to show me that you love me
but you loved it how you wanted even if it left me wanting
i could stand how you were fronting
thinking i was always happy -when you saw how i was acting
i would lash out - talk back
raise my voice and all that i could do cuz i wanted you to change
yes i know its true, i cheated on you
but dont think that it proves i was the only one who made mistakes
but now thats past i know the error in my ways
and if you come back, i promise that - things wont ever be the same - cus


its so cold, coming home
without you, your the center of my lifeee
you hit the road, leaving me alone
cus i kept coming home in the middle of the night

here we go in the middle of the road
headding home, just me - its the same old thang
letting go, as im headding to the door
so - its just me - its the same old thang

its so cold, coming home
without you, your the center of my lifeee
you hit the road, leaving me alone
cus i kept coming home in the middle of the night

La Cosa Nostra 12-22-08 05:10 AM

Comming home mp3.mp3 - 4.77MB

Direct link
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5310348167e7d36a/

Nostradamus - Comming home

Lyrics (for those of you who have trouble with the australian accent)

Yo,
i came to you back in 2002
rappin just out the blue
man jus to show you how we do
powerful----------in early stages
racing through faces n places we been to
for ages the vacant state you were in dude
............i cant relate cause I've seen truth
& that was back in the day, trapped in the same
reality playing, macking the game
acting insane with the wrong crowd
thats packing the same................tragic & lame
tracks on a tape from cats that are fake
breaking your back for the fame
2004, i was glad when you came
out the scene back on track with the fate
flowing free, n meeting OMB
blowing trees in the cyphers
known to teach how we might just
go to reach out and dice this, game
...............like two players of this life thats insane
afraid making it righeous hyped inside of ya brain
With the vibing acclaimed... to break & pry from the chains
the games the industry plays for cash, its trife & its fake
i stayed with you..............through thick & thin, poverty
honestly, constantly guiding you through the controvesy
like prophecy, its got to be, what you need to cop a feed
when your on the street, creativly dropping heat till i stop the beat
Rock a treat, you promised me, but fucked it sent the word
A new stage, cut your dreads & thats when you met the girl

and will i ever ever ever come home again
taught to never say never till im old but friend
i been fucked & cold writing up this note
askin god will i die before im comming home

I realise she was pure & real n you woulda killed
anybody standing her way, its stupid bit still
that was love, the deepest of types leaving ya life
moving cities, fuck the sound course, meeting your wife
She was an equal in every way, I seen you apreciate
the love you shared was above it n rap was reaped in a day
Put ya mic in storage forfeiting all ties to the passion
you quiting writing a fraction, except for cyphers n scrappin
Shit, I couldnt catch it, Ida had you to stick with it fucker
to lift you to other levels n mags'd give you the cover
But you chilled with the wrong crowd n you flipped when a brother
booted up an OD, passed like a bitch n it fucked ya
ya slipped in the gutter, steady caught up with your girl
But that relationship ended, & it fucked with your world
I could see the downfall, you hit the pipe to forget her
for a year, on hard drugs & fucked nights I remember
How you let it get to you, suffer bruz, under the buzz
hating life, wishing for death, cause your a sucker for love
N I waited patiently, as OMB stayed with you basically
teaching you to chill, to keep it real before hed breaken free
2008, he hung himself, B making it seem
life was full of shit a game & its fake as can be
Its like, everybody comes & goes, to surpass this
I got you back.. Nostradamus.. the bohemian artist

and will i ever ever ever come home again
taught to never say never till im old but friend
i been fucked & cold writing up this note
askin god will i die before im comming home


YO
we been through a lot together with the death and remember
endevour to keep your head up, on the steps to forever
stay malevolent clever, centered in check to the letter
& level it, reppin ya set, devilish bred with the better
mindstate, life is joke....... so make the most of the bull
poking at fools choking in rules with their emotional pool
This is a little insight, into your negative stance
Nos hit rock bottom, now life is only left to advance
enter the stance, dance with the devil
but stay true to your goals
blessed are the mans, plans as a rebel
with the music & soul
losing control, never been better re-instated with rhymes
fuck the snake thats inside demons deviating your mind
wait till you find, your inner peace, you can live through me
viva la revolution baby, and its this you see
your a testement to escaping depression & taking the lesson
you made your confession now its time to take what im guessin
Is the best part, you got me.. my name is hip hop
from spaypainting the sick spot, to rhymes that are shit hot
I'm all you need in this life, bar god, sex & some currancy
hot weapons to fuck with enemies steppin, n luxury
still raising awareness from the fake to correctness
raging at headless snakes in this race of a place that ensnares us
you be making impressions but fuck it bro, bust a show
you left the game, now welcome back

Nostradamus is comming home.

Implicit 12-22-08 09:36 AM

Voted For: 286

Nos - i honestly hate move clips before a song..its a bit too long. i woulda have changed the song or just fast fowarded it

i read the lyrics and i thought it was quite cool to talk about dude on a song. lyrically it was good...there were parts where i didn't see any connection between lyrics and jus felt like you said it for the multis. but i could be wrong

the hook i did not like at all..i think it called for more. nothing about the hook really stood out.

on that last verse it really sounded as if your flow started falling off. it seemed as if you were just trying to get everything out without trying to flow with the beat.

and just overall i would not expect to hear that anywhere other than from RV. i wouldn't hear it on tv or the radio.

if i were to rate it, i'd say 6/10




286 - wow you really got down with the autotune haha. i dont think ive ever heard anyone use it as much as you...and lil wayne haha.

honestly i didnt like this song at all.

the hook was okay at best..i actually hated it. you tried something new and took a risk, but i dont think it worked.

im always down for switchups with the flow..but i think you should have stuck with that same flow from the first verse throughout. well not the same flow..but same style.

when you actually started rappin, it kinda threw me off.

if i were to rate it, i'd give it a 6 or 6.5




As for the vote...
I didn't like either song, but I felt that 286's is something that I personally would be more prone to listen to (regardless of accent). That autotune is where it's at nowadays and you took a risk (which didn't really work). So my vote is 286.






oh and be sure to hit me up for the next battle

La Cosa Nostra 12-22-08 05:53 PM

yo i just listened to 286's track..

this is sort of like very new school lil wayne shit verses old school underground haha..

i prolly should of put more work into my production...

La Cosa Nostra 12-22-08 06:00 PM

And implicit thats not a movie quote thats a bob dylan interview...

JTR 12-22-08 06:43 PM

Voted For: Baphomet

Aight im gonna start with Jay286 first. I know we had beef in the past (Kinda, I guess) but I give you my word this is 100% unbiased cuz honestly I don't know who you are or care about the net lol. Now i've heard other tracks from you before, be it solo or on some tracks with black magik cuz I listen to a lot of his shit, and you guys would kill it, but honestly, I was expecting better from you in this battle. The major problem with this track for me was the vocoder program thing. Look man, first of all, don't use the vocoder program on an emotional track, that's a big no-no, it doesn't suit it, and it's part of the reason it didn't sound right bro. You can't be trying to put emotion into your voice for people to hear that, when you have some program making you sound robotic. Keep that program reserved for a feel good type song, mainstream song or a club song. It woulda sounded way better if we could actually hear the real emotion in your real voice you feel me? It woulda impacted a lot harder. Secondly, yes vocoder does make people sound better while singing, but they actually have to be good at singing in the first place. Now I don't mean any offence to you, but judging from what I heard, you really can't sing. I mean, you're off key dude, and your singing techniques are really not good, like that "lie-ey-ife" part was really brutal, and it really didn't sound good when you started rapping, and dubbing your real voice over yourself rapping with the vocoder, it kept switching, I could hear your real voice followed by your vocoder after, the it'd go vice versa and you could the vocoder first, the your real voice, and it just made it sound un-proffesional. Now don't get me wrong, there were some pros to your song too, it had some strong points. For instance, when you came into that second verse switching your flow up and spitting pretty fast, that was ill and showed your versatility, I really liked that. Also that part how you just straight up slowed it down at one point and cut it back into the vocoder for a couple words, that was nice, and one of the few times I actually enjoyed hearing the vocoder. Overall i'd have to say that second verse was nice, but it couldn't save this track, I really wasn't feeling and I would suggest practicing singing, and just singing that chorus yourself, re-record it and be confident, no vocoder, and if you dont like it, then re-write the chorus into a rap instead of singing, if you did that then this track would actually be nice cuz you could kill that first verse if you do it properly without the vocoder.


Ok now i'm gonna go to Nostradamus. First of all, iunno wtf the intro was or what it had to do with your song, but it was enlightening and cool lool... Ok, so you obviously win the singing contest here, which gives you some extra points off the bat for me. It was ill how I could hear you humming in the background of your rapping, and you really did kill that chorus, you got a nice voice no homo. But what kinda threw me off a lil is that I couldn't understand what you were saying after you sang "askin god will i die before im comming home" it sounded like right after you sang that you went "aaaaaannnndddd" which I can't understand why you'd sing the word and... cuz and nothing... there is no and, you say and, and the chorus ends, nothing follows after the and lol, but it sounded cool enough for you to get away with it. I think it woulda been a lot better if you sang "yyyyeeeaaaaaa" afterwards instead of "and". I think it'll be funny to see if anyone realises it's you who's singing lol. Your flow was pretty tight, a lot of multi's which is my kinda swag, I liked the use of them.

Ok, so overall for the both of you, im gonna have to say Nos killed the singing way better. I also could feel his emotion and presence more, one because I think Jay's track wasn't based on real feelings, but just a generic sort of story track that wasn't actually written about a real life situation he'd gone through and felt. You could tell Nos connected to his track a lot more because he was rapping about himself, his own life, and his journey with hiphop. Also the ending to his track sounded real smooth and proffesional, it was hard hitting.

I gotta give this one to Nostradamus without a doubt, and i'd be surprised if he doesn't get a 5-0 win, because I think it's clear he's the winner and deserves it.

You both did good and made this a cool battle, something RV has been lacking, so props on that.

V/Nostradamus

JTR 12-22-08 06:45 PM

I don't know if you guys should count my vote or not... it might not be explained enough looololol

Ysdat 12-22-08 07:38 PM

Voted For: Baphomet

286

Autotunes??!!! :(

I hate Autotunes so Im gonna try focus on everything else, but this autotunes shit fucks me off so yeh...

Flows cool, nothing much to comment on there, Lyrics are ok, I dunno, Might just be the mood Im in but Im getting really annoyed listening to this track bro. Nah for real, I dont have much more to say, this is the first thing ive heard from you, sounds like you coudl spit dope, but personally Im not feeling this. Concepts ok, I honestly think this would of been a lot better without autotunes gaying it up.

Good tactic using autotunes on Rv though, fuck load a wayne and T- Pain fans on the site, lol.


Nos..

Intros cool, whats the sample from?!

Mutlis and your flow are allways a good listen. Your qualitys shit brother, Your flows nice and you ride the beat cool. Concepts cool, on that i used to love her angle. Whos on the hook? Im feeling that hook, sounds like drunk on the porch sorta shit.

Holy fuck your qualitys fucking me off, sounds like your clipping an dpeaking through out this entire thing. Or theres way to many highs in your EQ, i dunno, could be the shit speakers im using, i unno.



Overall.
Nos track is for real Hip Hop heads, raw spit about some real shit.
286 is on that " impress Rv sorta shit', I think 286 played the safe card on this, looked at who his audiance and voters are and gave them that autotunes shit that the industry is sucking dry at the moment.

Personally, real, true, raw, multis filled verses impress me.

Vote Nos

M&rk 12-22-08 08:19 PM

This was feedback posted for 286
 
i can relate to what 286 was sayin and i liked his verse but the t-pain effect was pretty lame here. all around i dont know how to vote on lame topical battles, so i wont, but this whole thing was dumb in my opinion.

Jay Rose 12-22-08 09:04 PM

i feel it being kinda gay with people voting on the autotune...true you dont like it, but comment on other parts of the song? but word i aint one to get hung up on it...good shit, had fun...ima re-produce this song sometime when i go into the studio...for the curious ones you can compare that to this one the new one will be alot better but word this works for what it was

La Cosa Nostra 12-22-08 10:23 PM

yeah i sort of feel the same way about mine...

i knocked it up too fast and didnt give myself the chance to really sit down and fuck with it for ages... even my dubbing isnt done properly... my background shit has no direction and i didnt even get the chance to add in any secret backwards satanic subliminal messeges.....

not good enough

Ysdat 12-23-08 05:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 286
i feel it being kinda gay with people voting on the autotune...true you dont like it, but comment on other parts of the song? but word i aint one to get hung up on it...good shit, had fun...ima re-produce this song sometime when i go into the studio...for the curious ones you can compare that to this one the new one will be alot better but word this works for what it was

End a the day, this is a song battle. You took the rsk of using autotunes as part of your song bro. I personally dont like autotunes, therefore dont feel any song with autotunes.

Taking autotunes into consideration as part of my vote is completely relevant, seen as its an aspect of your song.

If I had of voted for you cause I love autotunes, you wouldnt be complaining.

Entertaining battle though.

Implicit 12-23-08 05:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Picture
i can relate to what 286 was sayin and i liked his verse but the t-pain effect was pretty lame here. all around i dont know how to vote on lame topical battles, so i wont, but this whole thing was dumb in my opinion.



Coming from you....it basically means NOTHING.

La Cosa Nostra 12-24-08 12:15 AM

Autotunes isnt really my thing either...

i mean i can see the appeal but i just feel like its been over-used by modern mainstream cats.. it surprised me when 286 did it in his battle tho... i deffo wasnt expecting that comparing it to what ive heard from him in the past.....

J. Luth 12-24-08 05:13 PM

This was feedback posted for 286
 
curiosity killed the cat... but not the kid :nono:

Cola 12-24-08 06:09 PM

This was feedback posted for 286
 
odd type of battle

seems like you 2 went in to different directions with the song

I personally thought Jay's was the better of the two

but i didn't like the vocalizier shit

and Nos singing his chrous, rofl...that shit was horrible.

-TeamOne- 12-25-08 05:06 AM

This was feedback posted for Baphomet
 
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JTR 12-26-08 02:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 286
i feel it being kinda gay with people voting on the autotune...true you dont like it, but comment on other parts of the song? but word i aint one to get hung up on it...good shit, had fun...ima re-produce this song sometime when i go into the studio...for the curious ones you can compare that to this one the new one will be alot better but word this works for what it was


only two of us voted against you and I talked bout other aspects other than autotune

Houdini 12-27-08 10:00 PM

Voted For: Baphomet

I liked this piece for sure I think you raped this. Sounds alot ALOT better than the other dudes. I do have to give the other dude props 4 tryin but... He didnt try enough lmao

Houdini 12-27-08 10:01 PM

and why your at it guys...Think u could peep on battles....its lookin kinda stiff on the site. DONT VOTE FOR ME. Unless you think its better....P3c
Hou?

Speats 12-27-08 10:25 PM

This was feedback posted for 286
 
checking polls....................................

Houdini 12-28-08 11:14 PM

Wow 10-8 thats an impressive record...Lmao whackass...Got beef bring the battle...Text..Wanna se a bitch go 10-9 heh

BloodVenom 01-07-09 02:29 AM

This was feedback posted for 286
 
....500 posts to vote? You expect this battle to ever get enough votes?

La Cosa Nostra 01-07-09 06:55 AM

yep..

Young Kidd (LM) 01-09-09 01:24 PM

Voted For: 286

hmmm.
this is a cool battle.

Baph - Vocal Quality is kinda low, but the lyrics are hot, the multi's and flow of the verse are crazy. i love the sound and content, the accent combined with the way you approached it is on point also, if anyone says anything about not understanding because of an accent then somethings wrong. Because its easy to understand what your saying, the only problem with the verses in whole is the vocals are really kinda low harder to hear and that the hook just came in...kinda weird like... i dunno. something about it doesn't set right.

286 - um... lol. Its a hot hook, but your autotune/doubles are off in a way that make it just sound weird. lol. I mean it sounds straight but again...it doesn't set right (both hooks yours and baph's are kinda...egh...)

The verses are crazy, content could have been up'd but in a song battle i listen more for enjoyability (Word?) lol and flow. While i think Baph has you beat in the flow because his sets better, the autotune threw you a bit, you have a certain attitude that over comes his. especially in that second verse.

I will say that both came off pretty correct.
the topic is kinda..broad, but both flipped it pretty well.

I have to give it to 286 like this

Flow - Baph
Enjoyable - 286
Content - Baph
Beat - Same
Presence - 286
Hook - eh....Tied
Actually..it comes down to whose sound i liked more.

286.

WhoAmI 01-09-09 02:01 PM

This was feedback posted for Baphomet
 
checking polls............................................. ..

50Cal. 01-18-09 01:33 PM

This was feedback posted for Baphomet
 
i fucking hate netshare.noone wants to be forced to download anything.use a fucking soundclick.wtf

Ysdat 01-18-09 04:40 PM

^brainless fuck, you dont have to download it. You can listen to it in the netshare player.

J.Roy 01-27-09 09:03 AM

This was feedback posted for Baphomet
 
Both these songs could have used more work. 286 this isn't what I was expecting at all, I really didn't like your drop at all. The auto tune isn't the problem, it's the way that you used the auto tune. It seemed as if your production was blah on this as well, and It was :/. I expected a lot more, that's all That I can say.


Nos, the thing that stuck out the most was the production, it sounded like it was pan'd to the left hella. AT least through my speakers, and these things are brand new. I can tell you peaked a few times on there. The hook was kind of wack.

I'm wondering why you both are trying to sing, i'm not feeling that.

If it was a text battle, Nos had this in the bag, Nos's lyrics fit together really well and he flowed well on the beat, but Nos your delivery was mad boring, you should've changed it up, it was like "yawn"

I expected a lot more from this........ :/

Jay Rose 01-27-09 07:30 PM

i can honestly tell you i was trying something new, and wiffed. im okay with that tho

La Cosa Nostra 01-27-09 08:40 PM

yeah well i can honestly say this was whipped up in 30 minutes.. production was shit i agree... and when the cd version comes out it will be a compleatly different sounding track.

Cola 01-28-09 06:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.A.L.I
i fucking hate netshare.noone wants to be forced to download anything.use a fucking soundclick.wtf




rofl


what a fucking twit

J. Luth 01-28-09 10:06 PM

lol @ this still being open. That's RV for ya .

Jay Rose 01-29-09 06:00 PM

haha this...my battle with zone out is still open....from like 06 maybe early 07


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