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Da NFamous 02-04-04 09:52 PM

"Even though it seems heaven sent...
 
...we aint ready to see a black president"-Pac
What do ya'll feel about that line and do u think today in 04 we're ready, or were we ready before, or will we be ready soon?
1luv.

bouncedoggydog 02-04-04 10:13 PM

I think America will seek to put a woman in office before a man of color. I know it's messed up but if Hilary has her way, this will be the case. I welcome the idea of a woman in office, since I have a daughter and wish her the world. It just pains me that a well qualified man of color would be passed up as a canidate for the office. I think colen powell has the best chance of any political figure, at making a bid for the white house. Condaleeza could share a ticket and get my vote. I think a female in the VP spot would be a rational step before a push for the house. Not sure if Hilary is willing to sit in the shadows for another term, she wants the top job. I really think things will change in the politcal arena in the near future. Conflicts abroad will change the face of politics for a long while.

Thrust 02-04-04 10:36 PM

a black man, a woman.. doesn't matter to me
as long as their qualified for the job and can handle the job
you don't have to be a white male to be the president
tho most i guess see it like that... i refuse to think that
everyone's impression from me is not based on color/ race/ sex

-Zone Out- 02-04-04 10:49 PM

well..a think that there is a qualified black man somewhere in usa that is ready..but it damn sure aint Al Sharpton..although he be ownin niggas in debates..

I would also prefer a woman as president over a black man..

K.Largo 02-04-04 10:51 PM

lol ^ didn't Colin Powell refuse to run .
Even though they wanted him to.

-Zone Out- 02-04-04 10:54 PM

yeah..Colin would have been good..but he's a nigger pie for not acceptin..

The End 02-04-04 11:28 PM

No, we aren't ready. Racism still exists, and I am more than sure some idiot would kill him.

Mental God 02-05-04 12:07 AM

^^^word up...

a black jfk

Jes 02-05-04 01:41 AM

Not to be the cynical one, but there aren't many ethnicities involved with the government today. Yes there are those Colin Powell's, devoting themselves to the cause and those more self-appointed such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, but the truth is no one of ethnic backrground really gets involved in it. We should focus on getting more color in to congress and senate than to focus on presidential issues. Like End said, racisim still exists, oppression is over, but the fear and hatred still continues, and in my opinion more so now than before. No offense to any who take offense, but no one can take an african-american canidate like al sharpton seriously, i mean what has he really done that prove he is global? His standpoint and political stance are questionable, let alone his approach and tactics.

I just also wanted to comment about Thrust post.
Quote:
you don't have to be a white male to be the president

technically you do... under our constitution, the president of united states of america must be at least 35 years old (give or take some years), protestant, a citizen by birth, blah blah politics blah blah, and of European decent... this is just one of many things stated in the constitution thats been outdated and neglected. In fact there was an amendment that still was unchanged until about 10 years ago, a white man could hang a black man if he was on his property.

Bigg E Z 02-05-04 01:59 AM

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No, we aren't ready. Racism still exists, and I am more than sure some idiot would kill him.



It would be a tragedy, But, it would be the beginning..!!!

I mean, Marin Luther King was hated...But how many heads turned when he was killed...

A black President would force a phew changes in the world....

If he was assasinated, then there would be ALLOT of changes..!!

Even if G.W Bush was assasinated, wouldent that make a phew changes allso..??

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Jes 02-05-04 02:21 AM

i'm not trying to insue arguments... you point is valid, MLK jr.'s death was a wake up call, but i don't think it was a positive one. what your saying is, so even if we had a black president and he were to be assasinated, it would be okay because there would be changes? If MLK's death were to truly change things, there would be no racism period. He died in vain... Racism is at an all time worse, in my opinion. Not only do we have races hating other races (palestinians-israelis, iraqis-americans, whites-blacks), but races hating within their race. Malicious Hatred. It's one huge identitiy crisis... everyone has forgotten their roots, in turn instilled fear into the unknown and hate was not the typical and whats different. And what makes racism worse in our day and age compared to the past is exactly that... its the past... segregation and biggatry (sp?) has happened, oppression has happened, its been noted and professed to our generation, generations before us, and generations to come. We're taught and reminded of our horrible history, holocaust, world war, women's rights, blacks rights, etc. and taught that what happened is wrong... so why are we still digressing and repeating history?

i apologize, if i'm rambling and going on and on... this is just one of the few topics that really get me interested in conversing.

inspire 02-05-04 02:52 AM

Fuck them.. Fuck them all..

As long as whoever gets in power can run a damn country.. I dont care whether they are a bisexual transvestite in a wheelchair.. or a normal white guy.

halfrican 02-05-04 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jes
under our constitution, the president of united states of america must be at least 35 years old (give or take some years), protestant, a citizen by birth, blah blah politics blah blah, and of European decent... this is just one of many things stated in the constitution thats been outdated and neglected. In fact there was an amendment that still was unchanged until about 10 years ago, a white man could hang a black man if he was on his property.


I hate to say it but you are as far from wrong as possible:

1. JFK was catholic
2. You don't have to be born in this country to become president, just a citizen for like ten or fifteen years or something like that
3. You defenetly don't have to be of european decent to be president, if that was the case we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Because it would be illegal for a black president.
4. And I'm 95 percent sure that being able to hang a black man ANYWHERE was never in the constitution, maybe a law made by local governments, but never in the constitution.

and to be completely blunt, if you think there will be a black, asian, female, hispanic, gay/lesbian, jewish, or middle eastern president in our, our children, even our grandchildren's lives, you are extremely delusional...

Transmogrify 02-05-04 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by halfrican
2. You don't have to be born in this country to become president, just a citizen for like ten or fifteen years or something like that


No immigrants have every american privelage except to be president and vice president


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