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Sean Gunner 05-06-06 09:29 PM

Is Spoken Word Hip Hop?
 
It's basically rapping - the beat.

TitoBronsky 05-06-06 09:56 PM

.... Yea... its hip hop....


and wheres my Mixtape Cover foo????

Sean Gunner 05-06-06 09:59 PM

In my head.....

Indeph 05-06-06 10:57 PM

I sware people will say rap is nothing but talking, and then turn around and say spoken word is art. I dont get ppl sometimes.

La Cosa Nostra 05-06-06 11:16 PM

I guess it could be classified as hip hop..

Pretty fringe though...

Logic The Goonie 05-06-06 11:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indeph
I sware people will say rap is nothing but talking, and then turn around and say spoken word is art. I dont get ppl sometimes.

lmao, thank you.

Sean Gunner 05-06-06 11:57 PM

Any other opinions?

Ysdat 05-07-06 12:07 AM

no .

Sean Gunner 05-07-06 12:07 AM

Why not?

Ysdat 05-07-06 12:11 AM

anyone can speak over a beat. ANYONE.
If bush done a speech over a beat would you say he's hip hop?.
I feel we have let the boundry of hip hop slip, hence the reason the fakest of humans are making generic bullshit and it being placed in the catagory of hip hop.

I admit, there is some dope,deep, meaningful, insightfull spoken word peices out there.
But that doesnt mean its comes under the catagory of hip hop. People arent consitant enough on there view of what hip hop is.

La Cosa Nostra 05-07-06 12:15 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
anyone can speak over a beat. ANYONE.
If bush done a speech over a beat would you say he's hip hop?.
I feel we have let the boundry of hip hop slip, hence the reason the fakest of humans are making generic bullshit and it being placed in the catagory of hip hop.

I admit, there is some dope,deep, meaningful, insightfull spoken word peices out there.
But that doesnt mean its comes under the catagory of hip hop. People arent consitant enough on there view of what hip hop is.

And other people only want to classify the music THEY ENJOY listening to specifically as hip hop..

Does it make them any more right?

Ysdat 05-07-06 12:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
And other people only want to classify the music THEY ENJOY listening to specifically as hip hop..

Does it make them any more right?


no it makes them wrong. Hip hop is too loosly thrown around these days.
there needs to be a fucking clean out of the generic money making sell out bullshit in rap.

La Cosa Nostra 05-07-06 12:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
no it makes them wrong. Hip hop is too loosly thrown around these days.
there needs to be a fucking clean out of the generic money making sell out bullshit in rap.

Why?

Because YOU dont like it?

And what would you have replace it?


A bunch of underground lyrical hip hop that nobody can dance to?

These artists that you speak of hit a specific target market and whether you love it or hate it.. Will continue to sell records..

The worlds a diverse place dude, everyone has different musical tastes.. Some people are into music for the mind, some people are into mindless babble over tight as fuck beats that people can dance to...

Dont get so caught up on the negative side of life... Enjoy music for what it is..

As soon as you stop trying to change societys views and just accept peoples individual right to choose what they like to listen to.. You will be a far more content person....

Ysdat 05-07-06 12:37 AM

yeh, ok, go from you being wrong about classifying spoken word as hip hop to tryna speak on me personally like you know me.

back to the question at hand.

Spoken word over a beat is not hip hop...

*will edit with some spoken word*

La Cosa Nostra 05-07-06 12:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
yeh, ok, go from you being wrong about classifying spoken word as hip hop to tryna speak on me personally like you know me.

back to the question at hand.

Spoken word over a beat is not hip hop...

Play this then try tell me you are right in saying spoken word is hip hop.
Spoken word is not hip hop
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hi-fi URL: http://www.soundclick.com/util/getp...id=3895763&q=hi

Again, people throw the word hip hop around too loosly.

You were the one who innitially changed the subject..

& I'm not interested in playing some crappy spoken word you found in an attempt to prove a point..

Try listening to shit like Immortal Technique - The philosophy of poverty.. Thats some tight spoken word.

And just to prove to you how I'm not wrong...

You know what hip hop is. The culture of Graffing, turntables, breakdancing, beatboxing and rapping (or emceeing).

Now to define rapping.. As you have said in the past, rap lyrics are a form of poetry. Poetry is nothing more than writing words in a verse structure to be recited by a reader.

Therefore, spoken word, which is the art of writing somewhat of a speech over a beat and performing this.. Which, unless by some act of devine intervention that some how makes certain styles of lyricism or 'poetry' exempt from this definition (according to you)..

Spoken word is very much part of the bohemian culture of hip hop.

I understand where your comming from man... Theres just nothing solid to back your claims aside from personal opinion.


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