do you believe in fate??
 

i for one dont....if god wrote our lives from birth
then why would he have us kill each other????
why would he have us be racist or ignorant
why wouldnt he make our lives perfect???

i believe he makes certain things happen
based upon ur believes and thoughts
ta maybe make u think bout sumthin
but fate interferes wit freewill which god gave us
unless he just likes playin mind tricks on us


ur opinions on this??

Its a little thing called Free Will

he knows whats gonna happen

but we have free will too do what we please

Yes, I suspect fate is probable.

yea but if he knows whats gon happen
it means its all written out ta happen
if it is that means fate exists and
we just have the illusion of freewill

if fate doesnt exist then not even god dont know what'll happen
cuz he didnt write out the future..he gave us freewill

no, i don't. if you do nothing, guess what happens...






nothing.


if you ever made a decision, you already know that fate can't exist.

like in terminator 2 "there's no fate but what we make"

you really need a job or some shit................^^

^^dont be polluting my threads :mad:

That doesent disprove anything...

If you do nothing, it is quite probable that it was just your fate to do nothing.

And if you make a decision, your choice would ultimatly be a reflection of fate also.

By the way man, you believe the universe is ordered dont you?

Why should the spread of time not also be ordered.

:shoot: letz battle hoecake

I'm iffy.

What exactly is fate? A predetermined end? I would rather live for the moment, without thinking that what ever happens to me is already decided by some Higher Being. Because then I have no will, I can go through life without making a decision and believe that It's my fate to do nothing.

I would rather live unexpected than to think that my life is predecided so I would say I don't believe, or the ever ignorant response, would like to not believe fate is real.

that sounds pretty silly to me but if that's what you believe, hey man, go for it. from whta you're saying it sounds like anything that ever happens (or doesn't happen) you could chalk up to "destiny".

i used "sitting there doing nothing" as an example because whne you do nothing, nothing happens. you won't magically find your self in your dream job, you won't have a knock at your door from your wife, nothing.

now if you do nothing and nothing happens, doesn't that clearly indicate that you have control over what happens to you?

if you dive off a cliff and bash your body into a liquid, your "destiny" wouldn't have you magically appear in a fine restaraunt eating fillet mignon. that would also indicate that "fate" and "destiny" doesn't just happen to you, you're at the helm.


and for the record, i the universe has order in its system of existance, not in the choices you make for your self

So your idea of fate doesent apply to all aspects of life...

Only progressive occurances...

.......Right...

like i said in my post...fate contradicts freewill

according ta religion god gave us freewill but whatever we do was supposed ta happen????....then we dont have freewill then life is just like a book
cuz its all written which means we aint got no control of life

how come you completely ignore the fact that i ahnnialated your whole concept of "fate" completely and you pick up my personal point of view about the universe?

rediculous.

when you're ready to talk, and you have a point that actually has some facts or logic behind it, then hit me up.

if you wanna discuss my point of view on the universe, go make a thread, I'll be happy to shit on you there too.

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