Is Nas One "True Classic" away from being "G.O.A.T."?
 

Saw this on another board and i was wondering what ya'll think, is Nas 1 "True Classic" (Reasonable Doubt, Illmatic/I.W.W., 36 Chambers, The Chronic etc.) from being considered the GOAT? 1luv.

illmatic is better than all those

and i think he's already g.o.a.t

what is "I.W.W" nope he aint, he lost the GOAT belt with Nastradamus. He isn't even on my top 5. Every album after It was written has sucked.

^ lol I.W.W. is It Was Written, 1luv.

I know this sounds stupid, but what is G.O.A.T?

Greatest Of All Time. LL Cool J had an album out with that name.

agrees

^ thanks for that

Nah, Nas only really has one true classic, which is Illmatic. It Was Written, Stillmatic, and God's Son are near classics, but I Am and Nastradamus were poo-poo.

But what is a true classic? I mean, how would you judge it?

A true classic, is a cd that you can listen to 4yrs afterits came out...Illmatic is very official...Also, it only had about 8 tracks? which made the fans focus on those tracks only...There wasnt any this track sucks that track sucks, cause there were only 8 tracks that were bangers....

^ i guess so... but i wouldnt consider the chronic a true classic.... it has repetitive beats and lyrically, kurupt is the only rapper who consistently comes off nice. Old Snoop occassionally has some good lyrics, but that's pretty much it. Not to mention that the whole album is gangstafied with no real meaning. But i guess it did revolutionize hip-hop in terms of beats... but i still wouldnt call it a true classic, in fact, dre 2001 is better in my opinion

he can't just lose the title of g.o.a.t

and if he did he got it back with stillmatil and god son and really on the lost tapes

and fuck sayin he fell off because really big and pac was about to fall of the just died before the could

rakim>nas

and add death to escobar and lost tapes to the list of good nas CDs,

he is good but not greatest of all time.

i listen ot illmatic everyday.....for the last 4 yrs...

dot ask why....its become a routine....

I dont even have nas in my top 15 either..

Big was just starting to run victory laps on people. Listen to "Life after death" and tell me he was about to fall off. Listen to Makaveli and tell me Pac was about to fall off. And allow me to define a classic.

Nobody can listen to an album one time and say "boom thats a classic" shit don't work like that. A classic is an album that can withstand years of changing music tastes. When you have a classic you treat the cd different, you NEVER have that bitch out, always in a case or str8 to the cd player, you NEVER or almost never lend it out to people for fear they'll fuck it up, and if you lose it, you have no problem buying another one. You listen to a classic so much you know EVERY line of EVERY song on that bitch, yet every time you listen to it, you find a new favorite part or line on the cd. Here is a list of classics

Public Enemy-takes a nation of millions to hold us back-just tha fucking title is classic

Biggie-Ready to Die-Took me 3 years to believe "gimmie the loot" was just him

Jay-Z-Reasonable Doubt-talked about hustling like everybody else, but touched on it wayyyyy differently

Nas-Illmatic-not 2 many songs, not to many guest spots, stripped down hiphop

Biggie-Life After Death-I own two of these, one hasn't breathed a breath of fresh air (means its still in the plastic), probably the most bite off album of all time

Pac-All Eyez on me-that doesn't happen, Life After death doesn't happen, plain and simple, and it brought an entire coast to dominance

Snoop-Doggystyle-put gangsta rap on the map (even though its been run down to rubish now)

Ice Cube-Amerikka's most wanted-"i'm your worst nightmare, a crazy ass nigga wit a brain"

Jay Z-Blueprint-fuck what ya heard, cuz NOTHING could've prepared you 4 this

2Pac-Makaveli-shit still got emcees shook, and is still the cd most of your favorite emcees of 2day look 4 inspiration.

Outkast-Atliens-better then Stankonia, only by like 1 song, every fucking song on here is ill shit

Eric B and Rakim-Paid in Full-get ya respect up

Big Daddy Kane-Aint no half stepping-without that, your favorite BK rappers don't exist

Tribe Called Quest-fucking 4got the name of it, they 3rd one.

Wu-Tang Clan-36 Chambers-

and just cuz it changed everything from that "glittery money" shit
DMX-Its Dark and Hell is Hot
thats it in my opinion

^ yeah you got it spot on.... thanks for defining the classic

i'd add:

Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP (brought something new original, and lyrically strong with lots of emotion and)

Aesop Rock - Labor Days (do I even have to give a reason?)

2pac - Me Against The World (meaning, raw emotion, good lyrics)

Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Vol.2 (great politics and meaning, dope delivery and lyrics, excellent wordplay)

.. just some of my personal favourites that i think deserve a spot