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Old 12-21-03, 02:02 PM   #22
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Originally posted by Dez



Fucking Vickriders..


Nike endorsements and commercials do not define talent. Neither does being able to run.



Yeah, the guy can run..and yeah, hes one of the fastest in the league..


But he has done nothing, and I mean nothing to prove that he is even close to the best.


As for your agrument saying that stats are irrelevant, homie, stats define how well a player performs.

Last year Kerry Collins had an overall rating of 85.4, a perfect rating is 158.3....


so much for your whole 'I KNOW THE GAM ME NOT DUM' spiel.


As for Gannon, the Raiders had never seen a defense last year that could play the Cover 2 as well as Tampa did. You cant just jump into a game and expect to win like that... I dont care who was the QB in that game, if they never saw the Cover 2 worked to perfection such as Tampa Bay ran it, they wouldve had just as bad a day.




Now, as for the whole 'best qb in the league' deal, the award would have to go to Peyton Manning. Yes, I know he has the recievers to get things done, but even as a rookie hes showed amazing poise and understanding of the game...


When its all said and done, hell have a few Rings and be declared one of the best of all time.


Id say that Brady will pull in second, as he doesnt put up the best numbers in the world, but he shows that he is a great leade; on and off the field.


Brett Favre will round off the top 3. Brett has aged, and is not as nimble as he used to be. I understand that his numbers as of late have depleted, but the Packers management fucked him over. They released every receiever with talent thinking 'Brett doesnt need them, hell get the job done regardless'. Its a shame too, because no QB will be able to excel in working conditions such as his.






first off I said one game he got a perfect qb rating not overall. just because you stay in the pocket doesn't mean your a good QB. steve young was a good example of a mobile QB. look where staying in the pocket gets you (dan marino). Any team that had decent safeties and Corners would fucking pick apart there whole offensive.

Still you can argue the fact with vick ATL is 20 x better. He makes his team and he's been like thst since he's been playing for VT. look at any team with him then without him. VT bombed the year after he left and atl bombed when he was hurt. Shiiit

with a good enough squad any half ass qb can do good job Cough* kurt warner,Rich gannon*cough

Not saying gannon and warner were/are bad just had a hell of a supporting cast

vick doesn't have that even if had a team like the vikins I can tell you right now they would have won way more games.
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