^ you nailed the meaning of "pop"

And, Jes I know what you mean. But the thing is, for example... I love that song "Lady" on Obie Trice's album. I like it cos it's catchy... yet I know its crap. So basically, I admit that I like something crap. And as long as you acknowledge its crap, I dont think theres a problem with liking it.

But technically, Eminem can be considered a pop/rap crossover. Not a pop-rapper like Nelly or Ja Rule, but a pretty definite crossover. Example:

1. Curtains Up (skit)
2. White America - chorus and rock beat can sell
3. Business - club beat & catchy chorus
4. Cleanin Out My Closet - pop chorus
5. Square Dance - club beat & catchy chorus
6. The Kiss (skit)
7. Soldier
8. Say Goodbye Holliwood - pop chorus
9. Drips - the chorus
10. Without Me - club beat & pop chorus
11. Paul (skit)
12. Sing For The Moment - rock beat & chorus
13. Superman - subject matter & chorus
14. Hailie's Song - SINGING
15. Steve Berman (skit)
16. When The Music Stops
17. Say What You Say - club beat
18. Till I Collapse - Nate Dogg hook
19. My Dad's Gone Crazy - pop beat & chorus
20. Curtains Down

as you can see, only 2 songs could really be considered "raw". The reason most of the other ones cant sell is cos of the content (say what you say, drips). So technically, he does impliment heaps of pop things in his songs, but he does put work into his lyrics and flow, and meaning, so you cant consider him a complete sellout. The Eminem Show was incredibly dodgy though.