flow i agree and disagree with you.. like alot of people have some real talent battling face to face with a mic na mean ?.. like before i came to this site, all i did was battle niggas at work..battle niggas in lil get together at someones house who has a DJ set.. thats all i did.. but when i came here.. i had ot up my vocab.. up my complexity.. up my punches.. but in text its different.. cause you need to find out what the site excepts and what they dont.. cause its not that the rookies are rookies.. its that the rookies need to adapt to the style and voter preferences to get wins.. and obviously the vets know what the voters want.. there isnt really a skill issue.. now im not saying i could battle vets and win, but i have battles like 3-4 and lost every one lol... *sniff* <-- that still hurts my heart lol.. but i wont back down, thats fa sho.. but just cause you use vocabulary, doesent mean your verse is tight.. cause theres till the metas which are big part of versdes.. the punchlines whihc are big part of verses.. wordplay helps you verse.. flow helps your verse.. but iv seen alot of vets jsut forget about flow, and try to use punches and wordplay.. thats when they shit gets boring.. its not really a verse ne more, its a collection of disses.. and that at battling.. we need to change that lol.. and the funny thing is they win for some reason

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^took mea while to type... yea im bored lol