its like this the way i feel and c this hip hop game. ur underground until u get into da mainstream scene. "underground" rappers diss or r angry cuz they aint got flo or as much succes mainstream artist. being mainstream dont mean u sell out matter of fact i dont c it as a real hip hop or fake hip hop y is battle rap or str8 lyrical trax "real hip hop" and not club trax or gangsta rap real hip hop? y is Pun real hip hop and niggaz like Snoop aint. 4 aslong as i have been hearing both artist i remember Pun dropping club joints, just like snoop, dropping gangsta raps just like snoop, etc. everybody got they own hip hop and thats it. underground, mainstream w/e its all real hip hop. wether ur Krs-1, Master P, kurupt, Nelly w/e yo aslong as u do ur music how can it b fake? just my thoughts 1