id say they're both 8/10's
the one wit buck i think the colors go well, along with the font, but maybe make the subtext jus a lil smaller or somethin?
the scrappy one i like a lot too...font and brushing goes well along with the backround...
im glad to see that you're tryin new stuff on the sigs, i dont think ive seen you do one with the scrappy colors (for the entire sig) or the black and white
good job...

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