And being the competitor doesnt even understand why I think Grafh's hit harder.. Ill post up what i said in my pm to Indeph as further explanation..

The whole "I elevated, you still suck" concept is played to shit. While yes, back fire/ashes isnt the most original, it has more wittyness. Im not saying either were good, but his was more witty, which for me, means it hit harder. He only compared you to Banks for the multies part, and his overall punch concept was more witty then yours. That's why I think his hit harder.

Word.